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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:02 AM
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5 years later, people don't really care about 9-11 it seems.
That's the impression I get, that its lost all it's gravity and horror and shock value and political value, and has just faded away like Pearl Harbor. Something so distant and ugly that no one wants to even think about it, or delve into it further.

No one seems to give a damn about finding the supposed perpetrator, dead or alive, and no one seems to be living in constant fear anymore.

Supposedly 1/3 of Americans polled think something's fishy about it, but that doesn't seem to have manifested itself in any noticable way, they suspect the whole truth was not told or revealed, yet they go about their daily chores and pay their taxes.

I know my statement is a broad generalization, but let's face it, 5 years later and we seem to be back where we were before 2001, brain dead and distracted, and ripe for the taking.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:04 AM
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1. I'm waiting for the Hasbro action figures
Oh boy! Should be a great movie, huh? Huh?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:05 AM
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2. Sad, but true... and probably worse than that
Considering we have no National Guard in the backyard and our armed forces are about spent... brain dead, distracted, worn out and no one is guarding the hen house.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:07 AM
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3. while the sheeple might have stuffed it down the memory hole, BushCo
has not. The still use it to justify everything. Not a speech, nor a piece of legislation comes off without a reference 911.

It is what is being used to justify everything from 'redefining' the Geneva Conventions to eroding Posse Comitatus, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. It is the driving force being used to justify the so-called unitary executive, not to mention the illegal invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as their continued occupation.

Forgotten about it? How could anyone forget about it? We're using it as an excuse to launch WW III or IV, depending on who you speak to.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:08 AM
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4. Have no fear...
...luckily, the fearless and intrepid journalists of America's liberal media are still on the case. They'll never let us forget.

Here's Chris Matthews, reminding us who the real villain was.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/08/02/matthews...
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:24 AM
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12. We lost the focus thanks to Bush
The Bush gang was able to manipulate our anger, and use it for the invasion of Iraq, who had no connection to 9/11. I think we would have had the perpetrators if we had focused on the Afghan invasion. Instead, now we have a theocracy like Iran taking power in Iraq, thus saving all those posssible Iranian casualties. As someone who was an early Vietnam vet, I argued against the Iraq invasion with the argument that the lesson we learned during the Viet conflict was to have 'the hearts and minds' of the people with us. And I can foresee us having to leave Iraq in the same fashion, with our tails between our legs.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:08 AM
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5. Somebody turned it into a meaningless political slogan.
:grr:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:09 AM
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6. Not sure I agree...
I know people who to this day won't fly because of 9/11. Lots of people, at least in the D.C. area, still have fears about taking metro. Lots of people ask me aren't you afraid to work in the city? Aren't you afraid of terrorism?

Statistically, it's more dangerous to get in your car and drive on the beltway, but psychologically, people are more afraid of terrorism. I suppose it's much like going to the beach and having the movie Jaws in the back of your mind.


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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:59 AM
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14. When I lived in the DC area
in the 1970s and took the bus to work and everywhere (because I didn't have a car) I'd have people ask me every day if I wasn't afraid to take public transportation. I'd just laugh at them.

I have a brother who lives out in Vienna, VA (a right-wing Republican, sadly) who is under the impression that downtown DC is a hell-hole after dark and tends to cast ethnic slurs that he ought to know better than.

I guess what you should ask people is how often a bus or subway crashes and kills people. Or, if you really want to be annoying, next time there's a multi-car crash on the Beltway, ask as solicitously as you can, if they aren't afraid to drive?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:10 AM
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7. so many important things to be outraged with this admin. time and again
nothing comes of it. the outrage sits smoldering for me. i know it does many on this board. i dont know what the answer is. i dont know if justice will ever happen. i use ot have hope, but i dont anymore.

what i challenge in you post is the living in constant fear. i didnt the day of 9/11. i didnt a year later and i dont now. i refuse. i would hope all would refuse. too many live life in constant fear. it is why the adm gets away with all they are getting away with
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:13 AM
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8. If you think that's sad....
It's nearing a year since Katrina.....

From John Edwards:

It's a pretty safe bet that George Bush and his Republican allies in Congress don't spend much time thinking about it. They are too busy grandstanding about flag burning and passing even more tax cuts for the most fortunate Americans. The concerns of people displaced because of Katrina and people trying to rebuild their lives in New Orleans have apparently been forgotten.

~Snip~

In many parts of New Orleans, it's as though the hurricane did hit just yesterday. Half the former residents have not made it home and vast stretches of the city are still deserted and full of debris. The National Guard had to be redeployed to make sure the streets remain safe. More than three-quarters of the schools remain closed. Nursing homes are scarce.

I'm particularly concerned about health care, and whether New Orleans' most vulnerable residents are getting the care they need. Only half of the city's pre-Katrina hospital beds are usable. Before the hurricane, there were 90 health clinics -- where many low-income folks get their health care -- and now there are fewer than 20.

~Snip~

We need to act before it's too late. Hurricane season is two months old and the Gulf Coast is still vulnerable to devastation from another storm. Experts expect the region to get four to six major hurricanes this year.

Yet, just last month, the Bush administration struck specific project recommendations out of an Army Corps of Engineers report regarding plans to protect New Orleans from future devastation. At this rate, it will be at least another year before the levee system is where it needs to be. Progress, once again, is hobbled by inattentive leaders that don't believe government should even try to solve big problems.


It seems like all the people in power are only willing to think of their own political future and not the welfare of the people....

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sportndandy Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:14 AM
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9. This is a job for Oliver Stone! nt
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:20 AM
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10. Living in constant fear for 5 years would be stupid
Especially if you live in New York City like I do and like I did five years ago.

Seeing as how the gravity and horror and shock value of 9-11 was used by Bush and his cronies to subvert America and to invade Iraq, I'm not sure that it is a bad thing at all for 9-11 to be fading away in its impact.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:21 AM
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11. 9/11 Has Been Over-Marketed...Chicken Little Syndrome
I don't think people don't give a shit, it's just been invoked by too many too many times now for people that 9/11 has become a broad acronym for the "war on terror" than it is on the specific attack and anything related to it. This regime has used 9/11 from day one to push a wide range of un-related agendas and cover up their activities...people have seen it and are now cynical. However, I just recently saw a poll that still showed a substantial number of people believe Iraq was involved with 9/11 (cause cellebre to keep the war going there) and to approve more draconian measures and keep the treasury vaults open for continued plunder by the war profiteers.

The scary thing about the concept of 9/11 now is how its created a bi-polar attitude. On one hand, people think the attack was terrible and as long as bin Laden is around it could happen again...thus we must "stay the course" in some form or fashion on the "war on terror" less we let "Osama win" or be ready to be hit again. Then on the other hand, there's the cynical attitude that the attack was either MIHOP/LIHOP or has been overblown or is old news and that it doesn't matter anymore. Talking about it scares people who don't want to deal with that thought/emotion...they'd rather live with the false security that 130,000 American troops stuck in a quagmire in Iraq is somehow making them safer here.

In many ways we're worse than we were prior to 9/11/01. The major reasons for that attack have changed and expanded. But also the "situation on the ground" has changed. In 2001, the only way for Al Queda to strike us was from long distance. Now they have 130,000 targets right in their backyard. Their goals of taking the war to America is happening...just the corporate media is too up the ass of the Repugnicans to honestly report it.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:31 AM
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13. It's not because it's years old. It's because policiticians- especially
the Bush Administration- have so cynically milked it for all it's worth over the last 5 years.
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:23 AM
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15. If you forget, bush will be sure to remind you.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:32 AM
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16. Well, what else can you expect
The MSM is not going to allow the airing of anything other than the official version of the matter. Bushco only brings up 9-11 when he needs an excuse to cram through some particularly odius action, or to instill fear into the sheeple when it looks like they're starting to wake up.

But don't give up hope yet, there are many, many people digging for the truth of this matter, and some of them even post on the 911 forum on this board. I suggest you check it, and other places around the net, out. Also go down to your local alternative bookstore, or find one on the web, and peruse the 9-11 offerings there.

This is much like the few years after the Kennedy assasination. Not a lot of discussion in the MSM, but below the surface there is a lot of research and digging for the truth going on.
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