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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:38 AM
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Bush & PNAC Gallery want wider war
Two articles on this subject out today, by Robert Parry at ConsortiumNews.com and by Sidney Blumenthal at Salon:

consortiumnews.com

Bush Wants Wider War

By Robert Parry
August 3, 2006

George W. Bush and his neoconservative advisers saw the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah as an opportunity to expand the conflict into Syria and possibly achieve a long-sought regime change in Damascus, but Israels leadership balked at the scheme, according to Israeli sources.

One Israeli source said Bushs interest in spreading the war to Syria was considered nuts by some senior Israeli officials, although Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has generally shared Bushs hard-line strategy against Islamic militants.

After rebuffing Bushs suggestion about attacking Syria, the Israeli government settled on a strategy of mounting a major assault in southern Lebanon aimed at rooting out Hezbollah guerrillas who have been firing Katyusha rockets into northern Israel.

In an article on July 30, the Jerusalem Post hinted at the Israeli rejection of Bushs suggestion of a wider war in Syria. Defense officials told the Post last week that they were receiving indications from the US that America would be interested in seeing Israel attack Syria, the newspaper reported.

more at http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/080206.html
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The neocons' next war
By secretly providing NSA intelligence to Israel and undermining the hapless Condi Rice, hardliners in the Bush administration are trying to widen the Middle East conflict to Iran and Syria, not stop it.


By Sidney Blumenthal

Aug. 3, 2006 | The National Security Agency is providing signal intelligence to Israel to monitor whether Syria and Iran are supplying new armaments to Hezbollah as it fires hundreds of missiles into northern Israel, according to a national security official with direct knowledge of the operation. President Bush has approved the secret program.

Inside the administration, neoconservatives on Vice President Dick Cheney's national security staff and Elliott Abrams, the neoconservative senior director for the Near East on the National Security Council, are prime movers behind sharing NSA intelligence with Israel, and they have discussed Syrian and Iranian supply activities as a potential pretext for Israeli bombing of both countries, the source privy to conversations about the program says. (Intelligence, including that gathered by the NSA, has been provided to Israel in the past for various purposes.) The neoconservatives are described as enthusiastic about the possibility of using NSA intelligence as a lever to widen the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah and Israel and Hamas into a four-front war.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is said to have been "briefed" and to be "on board," but she is not a central actor in pushing the covert neoconservative scenario. Her "briefing" appears to be an aspect of an internal struggle to intimidate and marginalize her. Recently she has come under fire from prominent neoconservatives who oppose her support for diplomatic negotiations with Iran to prevent its development of nuclear weaponry.

Rice's diplomacy in the Middle East has erratically veered from initially calling on Israel for "restraint," to categorically opposing a cease-fire, to proposing terms for a cease-fire guaranteed to conflict with the European proposal, and thus to thwarting diplomacy, prolonging the time available for the Israeli offensive to achieve its stated aim of driving Hezbollah out of southern Lebanon. But the neocon scenario extends far beyond that objective to pushing Israel into a "cleansing war" with Syria and Iran, says the national security official, which somehow will redeem Bush's beleaguered policy in the entire region.

In order to try to understand the neoconservative road map, senior national security professionals have begun circulating among themselves a 1996 neocon manifesto against the Middle East peace process. Titled "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," its half-dozen authors included neoconservatives highly influential with the Bush administration -- Richard Perle, first-term chairman of the Defense Policy Board; Douglas Feith, former undersecretary of defense; and David Wurmser, Cheney's chief Middle East aide.
more at http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2006/08/03/mide... /
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 08:56 AM
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1. THEY . . . . . ARE . . . . . INSANE . . . . . !!!!! . . . . . n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:00 AM
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2. Nominated.
This is important information. It is worth considering how recent events in the Middle East match up to the necroconservatives' plans to change the map there.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:06 AM
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3. this certainly explains the "We" when refering to IDF policies
MFers! They are really going to do it! Where the fuck is congress??

:argh:
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:10 AM
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4. Even clearer to me now why our founding fathers
insisted on separation of church and state. Nice while it lasted.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:21 AM
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5. Why????
I'm not trying to be stupid, but why are the neo's instigating this catastrophe? Is it really just the money? What are they going to do with it when the world ends? All it takes is more climate change and a couple of nukes and what do you have? How can they be so oblivious?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:29 AM
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6. They honestly believe they can bring about the end of the world
on their time.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:40 AM
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8. Something that just happens to you when you become a brainwashed
repiglican repuke.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 11:09 AM
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10. Because they think they're smarter than everyone else
It ain't money and it ain't religion, it's the power and the hegemony.

These guys believe in empires, and they really think they'll solve all the problems in the ME by creating a new one, even if they have to drag all us "dullards" into it kicking and screaming.

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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:37 AM
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7. Those many freshly minted permanent bases, the world's largest
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 09:45 AM by chill_wind
embassy, inside the Green Zone-- an entire city within a city-- all of that was not money. time and manpower spent for just a short 2-3 week war of breezy cake-walk duration and proportions.

If American corporations and blood-money contractors had to start coming home now at the end of 06, the drunken party and the era of staggering energy and oil co profits would be over. To say nothing of a very embittered RW zealot Bush RRR voting base. Can't let that happen.

Times are good.

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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:54 AM
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9. August 27 2001 PNAC: Give Israel the Green Light
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:46 PM
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11. Interestingly, that was in late August 2001
a few weeks before 9/11/01. Coincidence???
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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:52 PM
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13. From your second link:
"Israel will be allowed to fight the war by the means it deems necessary."
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 07:49 PM
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12. Recommended.
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JackNewtown Donating Member (703 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:13 PM
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14. K & R nt
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:18 PM
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15. k&r Folks need to understand the deep politics behind what's going on (nt)
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 06:33 AM
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16. Thanks for the articles, K&R
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