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InaneAnanity Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:29 PM
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Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 11:30 PM by InaneAnanity
I've read this blog for a long time. Today, because of Jane Hamsher's utterly idiotic blackface picture of Joe Lieberman, I commented strongly about how much I disagreed with tactics like that, and how important it was to keep our heads on our shoulders and not become overconfident and make mistakes of that nature.

I did not use profanity. I did not attack anyone, beyond calling the decision to post that picture dumb and idiotic. I used no regressive talking points.

My comment was deleted, and I have received no explanation as to why.

I can't continue to support this website in light of this. Deletion of comments because of the point of view they express, and not because of profanity or anything of that nature, is something I thought was unique to Republicans. Apparently not.

I'm now doubly dissapointed in firedoglake. First, for the incomprehensibly stupid posting of the Joe Lieberman blackface photo, and now second, for deleting my posts because they don't fit the desired tone of the blog, because they disagree, and not because they were profane or from a troll looking to incite things.

Sorry, I had to vent.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:32 PM
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1. That's too bad. I'm sorry. I like that site a lot.

I agree with you. You shouldn't have been just deleted without explanation. These are RW tactics.

Nedrenaline!
:bounce:
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InaneAnanity Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:34 PM
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2. Thanks
I'm for Ned too. I fear, though, that this blackface thing is gonna be all over O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh et. al tommorrow. This was just the thing they were waiting for, and now they have it.

I'm still wondering though, who thought that was a good idea?? And why??
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:34 PM
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3. that's disappointing
I saw the blackface pictures before they were removed. It was a stupid move to post them.
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:42 PM
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4. The picture is all over
They hit the right wing blogs VERY early. They screen captured it and posted it everywhere. Whoever did that was an idiot; I didn't even understand the point.
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InaneAnanity Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:43 PM
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5. Were they on O'Reilly already??
Or do we have to wait for it tommorrow??

This is the WORST possible timing for something like this. Just fell into Joe's lap. :(
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:05 AM
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8. Well, dang, give me a link,
I'd like to SEE what the fuss is all about.

I agree that the description is very STUPID. But if this unfortunate graphic is the 'cause of the day' for the right-wing.... then let's have it!
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InaneAnanity Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:12 AM
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9. The only place i can find it...
...unfortunately, is at michelle malkin's website.

Go here at your own peril.

www.michellemalkin.com
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:50 PM
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6. Has anyone else noticed...

that just about the time the Dems are really cooking and things are going really well, they do something incredibly dumb??? Or is it that it's just that the RW talking head scum suckers pounce on everything we do?? They do horrible things but no one seems to call them out. Perhaps that's because Dems just aren't by nature hateful scumbags like these RW talk show hosts.... anyway, this shouldn't matter but the vultures will be all over it. Hopefully the voters in CT have already made up their minds.

Same thing "seemed" to have happened to Busby in CA-50. I think she was going great until the remark about illegals not needing papers or something to help her. Not an important statement in the big picture, but the sleazeballs made it a huge issue. I think they stole the election, but who knows how much that statement hurt. If a Republicant said it, it wouldn't even come up.

The utter and overwhelming hypocrisy of the Right never ceases to amaze me.
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InaneAnanity Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:57 PM
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7. Usually
And in the Busby case, the issue is manufactured and distributed by the right-wing noise machine. I agree with you that the Busby election was likely rigged.

This, however, was just an incredibly stupid decision by a woman who has worked and filmed videos with Ned Lamont over the past few weeks.

There are few things more effective at turning away black voters than the use of blackface. I expect Liebermann to take full advantage, unfortunately.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:15 AM
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10. An "inappropriate" graphic from a website is NOT
"the Dems."

However, the right-wing-media-machine will use ANY crumb --- or MANUFACTURE one to discredit any Democrat.

Lieberman in black-face seems like an artistic statement. Unfortunately, it's too loaded to handle.
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InaneAnanity Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:20 AM
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11. Agreed.
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 01:21 AM by InaneAnanity
I understand the point of the message, but most people would think the following.

"Hrm....Lieberman in blackface posted by a Lamont supporter...Lamont is running against Lieberman.....Lamont wants Lieberman to look bad....so to make Lieberman look bad he puts Lieberman in blackface???....Lamont must think being black is a bad thing!"
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:36 AM
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24. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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QuestionAll... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:32 AM
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12. I smell something funny about this.
coming from all directions.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:33 AM
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13. I went to that unmentionable website and saw the offending pic.
Actually, I thought it was funny, but what do I know? I'm a "white" person.

Here's what Michelle wrote: I am so sure the Congressional Black Caucus and the NAACP and the civil rights brigade will be protesting this disgusting use of black-face in political discourse. Oh, wait, never mind. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are campaigning against Lieberman, too.

This non-issue will be used in the right's insatiable and never ending utterances to tell black people what to do.
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InaneAnanity Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:36 AM
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14. Still, it has the potential to completely blow up n/t
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 01:55 AM
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15. Everything in the right-wing-media
has the potential to 'blow up.'

Who knew that Al Gore invented the Internet or was the inspiration for Love Story or who "found" Love Canal? All those were LIES.

Those LIES didn't keep the main-stream-media from repeating them, and countless other lies, over and over and over and over and over again.

The "Media" is it's own institution; pretty much based on class. Distraction is one of their favorite ploys, but I don't think this is one of them. They don't like class or race stuff so much.

The Drudge-to Rush-to Tim Russert pig trough feeding has slowed down a bit.

We will see, won't we?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 02:03 AM
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16. Oh Noes!
The Lady of the Concentration Camps is in a snit about someone else being insensitive to racial issues? Oh my! Whatever shall we do?

Dear OP: Sorry your comment was deleted. From what I understand, firedog was besieged by swarms of slathering Malkinites. Perhaps your post was deleted in the crossfire.
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:18 AM
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17. When was the photo made?
Why did Lieberman do it?
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:23 AM
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18. Maybe you profiled as a "concern troll"
and that was why firedoglake deleted your comment. I would guess that there was a lot of comment deleting on that day.



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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:28 AM
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19. Has Lieberman commented on the photo?
.
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:34 AM
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21. Yes he has, or his campaign has, its on TPM Muckraker nt
nt
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:49 AM
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30. I thought the photo was real.
I did not know it was doctored.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:53 AM
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31. really?
how interesting. you believe that joe lieberman applied blackface makeup and that bill clinton posed with him?
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:33 AM
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20. I saw it there this morning but it isn't there
anymore. I agree it was an incredibly STUPID, tasteless thing to do. I hope Lamont's people come out and make a statement before this gets into the news! God, how STTTUUUUPIIID. What was that person thinking? :grr:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:39 AM
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26. that's odd
you saw it this morning on firedog? because i was on the site last night- before midnight and it was already removed. maybe you mean you saw it on malkin's site?
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:41 AM
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27. No, I know I never go to that sight.!
I am pretty sure it was there. Either that or one of the other blogs listed on Lamont's site. I usually peruse them in the mornings.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:43 AM
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29. well, maybe you're groggy from sleep
because the pic was removed yesterday - august 2
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:53 AM
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32. I'm sorry that you think I am a liar.
I really have no motivation for just making stuff up like that. I saw the picture at around 6 this morning.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:55 AM
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33. i did not call you a liar
Edited on Thu Aug-03-06 09:55 AM by blogslut
i did not claim you didn't see the pic. i'm just stating that you are mistaken when you said you saw it on firedoglake
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:26 AM
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37. wasnt it posted on Huffington Post?
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:35 AM
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22. Firedoglake has one issue. Getting rid of Lieberman.
The trend is starting to become worrisome. I've seen more energy from liberal blogs poured into removing a democrat this year, than any republican.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:36 AM
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23. Jane is working on Lamont's campaign, right?
She should have had better judgement since she was working with the campaign. She had changed hats.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:37 AM
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25. she's an individual and a fan
she isn't working for lamont.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 09:42 AM
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28. She made an error in judgement, but she
apologized for it. Kinda like all the "tar-baby" incidents. If you blow her off for this one thing, you negate all of the good things she has done....mainly like going to CT and actively campaigning for Lamont. Have you gone to CT to put your boots on the ground?

Awhile back, we had discussions here about wedges being attempted between the left-wing blogs. Not saying you are doing this, and understand your disappointment, but let's not turn on our friends for errors in judgement.

It's a great blog, and I expect to continue to read it daily, just like I do this forum, warts and all.
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RumpusCat Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-03-06 10:06 AM
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34. I looked at the picture and I just don't get it
What was it supposed to mean? Lieberman in blackface with Clinton? Are they saying that Lieberman is faking being a black man and.. hanging out with, er.. the 'First Black President'? Are they saying that Clinton's actions supporting Lieberman are like a minstrel show? :shrug:

Sometimes you just shouldn't let the grad students play with photoshop, me thinks.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:11 AM
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35. I'm gloating.
Even Rush didn't exploit this story. He mentioned it, just like CNN.

But, this "story" is going nowhere. A one-day blip. Blackhole.

See, like I said, the "media" doesn't do class or race stories that don't match their templates. This graphic was a stab from somewhere they don't understand.

They didn't get it and they won't go there.

Case closed.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:25 AM
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36. i thought it was a stupid thing on her part
Lamont is/was ahead, why rock the boat like that?
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