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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:29 AM
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Poll question: Who's your favorite Ex-President?
Well you can tell who mine is.

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:33 AM
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1. Jimmy Carter.
He's a man of enormous integrity who has done genuinely good work since leaving office. He's unfairly blamed for the high inflation of the late 1970s. No one seems to remember Dick Nixon's ill-conceived wage and price controls earlier that decade that, exactly as economists warned, would result in extremely high inflation. He's also not given credit for genuine progress, short-lived though it was -- towards peace in the Middle East.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:43 AM
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12. President Clinton
President Carter is good, but not effective. the Iran hostages happened under his watch.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:48 AM
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14. That Was Ronnie's Black Ops (Bush Sr. Puppetry)
They held the hostages because the oilmen wanted Carter out and made it worth their while.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:51 AM
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25. i didn't know that.
thanks - so even that was due to republicans
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:14 PM
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23. The question concerns ex-Presidents
It is not a question about what Carter or Clinton did as President. I agree that Clinton was the better President and I think most people would.

In that department, Carter wins hands down. Carter has been building houses for Habitat for Humanity and promoting free and fair elections world wide; Clinton has been running around the world playing golf with Bush the Preppy.

Carter's only serious competition for greatest ex-President ever is John Quincy Adams. Adams, by the way, wasn't very effective as President, either.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:52 AM
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26. i misinterpreted the question - Carter hands down
Clinton is actually a disappointment - huge disappointment
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:53 AM
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27. Remember that Carter has been an ex-President a lot longer.
If it's about post-presidential activity, it's unfair to ask until they're both dead.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:33 AM
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2. This one:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:38 AM
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7. Mine too
I never felt as inspired by any politician as I did when Kennedy was the President. If you weren't young during that period, you just can't understand.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:50 AM
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16. True. It was a remarkable time he was an inspiring leader. NT
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:44 AM
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13. I guess I should have included "Living ex-president" Oh, well.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:34 AM
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3. Al Gore...
Bush is a pretend pResident and Karl knows it!
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:36 AM
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4. Andy Jackson
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 11:36 AM by BOSSHOG
Cause he kicked some ass at the battle of New Orleans and was a heroic character before being elected. Ya'll come on down to Nawlins and get your picture taken at Jackson Square with a big old statue of Andy Jackson right in the middle of the square and a very stately St Louis Cathedral in the background.

More recent favorites

Big Dog
Carter
Ford (I think he done the country good)
Truman
Ike - a rare breed, a republican with integrity

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pagandem4justice Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:04 PM
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20. Andrew Jackson was also unfortunately responsible for the Native removals
in the Southeastern U.S. He had the choice between doing what is right or doing what was popular. He chose popularity.

"The Indian Removal Act of 1830." Civics Online. 8 June 2000. 10 December 2001. http://www.civics-online.org/library/formatted/texts/in...

Decent, well-referenced paper on Andrew Jackson and Indian Removal Policies: http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~landc/2002/projects/projec...

There's also a movement afoot to have Jackson replaced on the $20 bill with MLK:

http://putkingonthe20.com/case.php

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:15 PM
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24. Well I don't think it was popularity really...
He was already popular...

He always had a disdain for Indians, wanted the land for white settlement, and actually did not think it was constitutionally possible to have a sovereign nation within a state...

There is no doubt that Indian Removal is the great stain on his Presidency

Curiously, he adopted an Indian infant orphaned during the Red Stick War (I think) and raised him as his son.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:37 AM
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5. Al Gore
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:37 AM
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6. FDR
Because of his wonderful wife, Eleanor.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:38 AM
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8. patrick swayze
His bodhisattva was so presidential.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:39 AM
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9. JFK
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:39 AM
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10. I'm Beginning to Think that The Only Good President
is a dead one. Sigh. I can even tolerate Ronnie, since he's dead. It must be the heat.
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station agent Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:49 AM
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15. Lewis Black has a great bit about bringing Ronnie back
as a dead president. It's his time.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:40 AM
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11. Carter
Nobel Peace Prize.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:50 AM
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17. Thomas Jefferson.
In terms of recent Democratic Presidents, Clinton is my favorite. Far and away the best President since JFK. Carter has displayed the best performance as an ex-President, IMHO.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 11:58 AM
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18. Neither...
...Asshole will be my favorite ex-President because he'll be out of office and look like this:



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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:00 PM
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19. Well in the future
it sure won't be Shrub
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:10 PM
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21. .
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 12:12 PM
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22. I feel like if I pick one I am dissing the other...
I admire both greatly...and Jimmy Carter has had alot more time as an ex-President than Clinton...


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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:04 AM
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28. Favorite Ex-POTUSes:
FDR and JFK. If I had to choose between Carter and Clinton, I'd be stuck -- each had good points and not-so-good points.

TC

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Lucy - Claire Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:06 AM
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29. Bartlett
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 09:07 AM by Lucy - Claire
;-)Or FDR
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 09:46 AM
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30. Jimmy Carter was really everything Americans say they want
Edited on Wed Aug-02-06 09:47 AM by Strawman
Honest. Decent. Smart. Courageous. Not ideologically rigid or extreme. And a true "man of the people."

Yet he failed politically and it can't all be attributed to bad circumstances. His rejection is evidence of Americans' failure as democratic citizens. They weren't informed enough to critically evaluate issues. They couldn't distinguish between the credibility of Carter versus a superficial boob like Reagan who was a puppet for a bunch of cynical rich and powerful interests counter to their own.

They choose the people with star power, the cowboy with the televangelist/pro-wrestler rhetoric over amazing public servants like Jimmy Carter. I really wonder if this government is just too damn big to really function as a democracy anymore. National politics have become dominated by spectacle and completely detached from real issues.

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