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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:13 PM
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Shouldn't Secret Service have records of Abramoff visiting Bush whether
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 03:17 PM by blm
it was at the White House or his fake ranch?

Didn't GOP force Clinton's Secret Service to turn over records?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:22 PM
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1. Well we know that the Secret Service official log shows
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 03:23 PM by SpiralHawk
that Republican male prostitute Jeff Gannon/Guckert visited the Bush White House over 200 times, and at least 6 of those visits were apparently overnight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon

So the Secret Service seem to be On the Log, so to speak...worth checking out what they say about Jackoff.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:24 PM
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2. 6 overnight visits?
:wow: Where have I been? I didn't know that!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:36 PM
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3. Plus we found out he was waved in and out on occassion.
Seems that if you have heavy duty pass and leave by the correct exit there is no problem!

Or is that being denied now?

:-)
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:40 PM
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4. Accessing Secret Service Records through the Freedom of Information Act
The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) establishes a presumption that records in the possession of agencies and departments of the Executive Branch of the U. S. Government are accessible to the people. The FOIA sets standards for determining which records must be disclosed and which records may be withheld. The FOIA also provides administrative and judicial remedies for those denied access to records. Above all, FOIA requires federal agencies to provide the fullest possible disclosure of information to the public.

While the FOIA supports disclosure of Federal agency records, the law recognizes the legitimate need to restrict disclosure of some information. The FOIA does not grant an absolute right to examine government documents, the FOIA establishes the right to request records and to receive a response to the request. If a record cannot be released, the requestor is entitled to be told the reason for the denial. The requester also has a right to appeal the denial and, if necessary, to challenge it in court.

There are limitations on FOIA requests. The FOIA provides that a requester may ask for records rather than information. This means that an agency is only required to look for an existing record or documents in response to a FOIA request. An agency is neither required to collect information it does not have, nor must an agency do research or analyze data for a requester. Requesters must ask for existing records. The other limitation is that the law requires that each request must reasonably describe the record being sought. The request must be specific enough to permit a professional employee of the agency who is familiar with the subject matter to locate the record in a reasonable period of time.

It is to everyone's advantage if requests are as precise and as narrow as possible. The requester benefits because the request can be processed faster and cheaper. The agency benefits because it can do a better job responding to the request. The agency will also be able to use its resources to respond to more requests. The FOIA works best when both the requester and the agency act cooperatively.

http://www.secretservice.gov/foia.shtml

Surely, someone in the media has made an FOIA.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:40 PM
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5. of course they do, and the records have beend scrubbed, according
to friends of mine inside the bloatway.

some congresscritters' offices have been asked if they have photos of certain events, some senators' aides have been quietly talked to - to "refresh" their recollections of meeting topics and who attended with Abramof, and other data mining has taken place.

You forget that these guys play for real. NEVER underestimate the steps they will take to blame others or to protect themselves.

Of course, Scotty will say, " If you have an exact date and time, I will look into it. If you are off by a second, there is no record.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:34 PM
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6. I have consulted the Mighty Mighty Oracle Beans
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 06:35 PM by SpiralHawk
to Divine the outcome of these circumstances. Thus I am empowered to prophesy with my Usual Infallibility (TM), that something will escape their notice. Some scrap, some crack will emerge. And Bush will be publicly mated with his good buddy, Jack-boy Abramoff.
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