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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:26 PM
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Gore + Kerry = united against Bush crimes. Let's add MORE Dems instead
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 02:46 PM by blm
of posting threads and comments meant to drive wedges between the two men and those who support their efforts.

Fer chrissakes, they have been speaking out when few will and some people want to destroy any unity within the left side of the party.

This reminds of someone asking Michael O'Donoghue if he was a dog or cat person and he replied, "Who says you have to choose?"

And I remember Joyce Brothers saying that disliking cats over dogs and vice versa was a sign of emotional immaturity. Shouldn't people accept both for the way they are and what they offer, similarities AND differences?
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:27 PM
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1. Let's see some Dems we never hear from
Instead of Reid, Pelosi, Obama, Kennedy, Durbin, Schumer. The whole party should be on board with this.


Except for Lieberman, he can go flush himself down the toilet.
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brainy Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:40 PM
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5. NJ Democratic Senators Undecided
Alito Wins at Least One Democrat's Vote By JESSE J. HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 6 minutes ago

Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito has the confirmation vote of at least one Senate Democrat but several other Democrats said Wednesday they had lingering questions about the nominee and will vote against him.

Sen. Max Baucus (news, bio, voting record), D-Mont., said after a morning meeting with Alito that he would vote against President Bush's Supreme Court nominee as too far outside the mainstream of judicial thinking.

"He's just not right for Montana, he's just not right for America," Baucus said. "He's very polished and he answered all of the questions I was going to ask. There is just a little too much inconsistency."

Baucus said he is concerned that Alito leans toward giving too much power to the executive branch and has wavered on the right to privacy. He said he was also concerned about Alito's membership in Concerned Alumni of Princeton, which discouraged the admission of women and minorities at the Ivy League school.

Sen. Barbara Mikulski (news, bio, voting record), D-Md., also said she would vote against Alito. "I have a lot of unanswered questions," Mikulski said after attending the swearing-in of new Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J.

Alito's eventual confirmation appears assured. The Senate Judiciary Committee is scheduled to vote next Tuesday on Alito's nomination to replace Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who often casts the swing vote on controversial cases. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., has announced that debate on the nomination will begin in the full Senate on Jan. 25.

Sen. Ben Nelson (news, bio, voting record) of Nebraska, one of the most conservative Democrats in Congress, announced Tuesday in a statement that he had made up his mind to support Alito "because of his impeccable judicial credentials, the American Bar Association's strong recommendation and his pledge that he would not bring a political agenda to the court."

All 10 Republicans on the panel have endorsed Alito, assuring him of approval even though most of the eight committee Democrats are expected to oppose his confirmation.

Sen. Patrick Leahy (news, bio, voting record), D-Vt., was expected to officially announce his position on Alito in a speech to Georgetown University on Thursday. Leahy and two other committee Democrats — Russ Feingold and Herb Kohl, both of Wisconsin — voted for now-Chief Justice John Roberts' confirmation.

Alito also met Wednesday with Sen. Bill Nelson (news, bio, voting record), D-Fla., who said he would make up his mind on the nomination in the next few days.

Alito is meeting several senators over the next couple of days, including Menendez and Republican Sen. John Warner (news, bio, voting record) of Virginia on Thursday. Menendez has not said how he'll vote on Alito, while Warner said Thursday that he "fully expects" to vote for his confirmation.

Ben Nelson, who is seeking re-election this fall in his Republican state, said in his statement that he has "supported more than 215 of President Bush's nominations to the federal bench, including Chief Justice John Roberts."

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Associated Press Writer Mary Clare Jalonick also contributed to this report from Washington

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060118/ap_on_go_su_co/alito_nelson_10;_ylt=AkyEUvBPWLYuXKeN78d9YfFuCM0A;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:51 PM
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20. I will bet Leahy, Lautenberg and Menendez vote against.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:55 PM
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31. brainy
Per DU copyright rules
please post only four
paragraphs from the
copyrighted news source.


Thank you.


NYer99
DU Moderator
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:55 PM
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32. Hi brainy!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:31 PM
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25. LOL! Lieberman defended Hillary today
on Ed Schultz!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:51 PM
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26. Even Lieberman gets redemption if he fights BushInc on this, imo.
,
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:09 AM
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29. I was impressed with his interview today.
Surprised actually.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:29 PM
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2. Well said.
I'm on board with that.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:34 PM
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3. Gore isn't even running for anything and Newsweek
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 02:35 PM by ProSense
is already questioning his motives as partisan. Article posted in GD-P. Isn't it Bush who broke the law?

Obama's response is also posted in GD-P
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:54 PM
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7. Media likes to stir up motives. I just wonder why some at DU insist on
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 02:55 PM by blm
stirring up manufactured division when we are all supposed to be here to support Democrats and the Democratic agenda while opposing BushInc and the fascist Republican agenda.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:36 PM
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4. Recommended - I agree so much.
And now, we need less well known democrats to do the same thing. We have Gore, Dean, Kerry, Clinton, Clark, Edwards, Obama, Feingold, Boxer, Kennedy speaking out againt *. Time for the other ones to do the same.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:40 PM
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6. Agree...
This might be the most important point of this week.

It's 2006 folks. Now is the time for the Democrats to unite. No more bickering, complaining, etc.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:00 PM
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8. Kicked and Recommended
Good points
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:03 PM
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9. I agree but...
I still like cats better. It's something about the slobbering on my leg that just turns me off to most dogs. So there. :P

(But since neither Gore not Kerry slobber on my leg, they're both quite okay by me.)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:10 PM
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10. well, that makes you more anti-slobber than anti-dog. Pomeranians might
work for you. heheh

PS.... I have a cat that drools in her sleep.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:11 PM
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11. Great post blm
:kick: :kick: :kick:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:17 PM
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12. You've got it right BLM ~
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:00 PM
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24. Thanks for that, IndyOp.
.
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:34 PM
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13. I'm with you, united we stand- strength in numbers etc. n/t
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:41 PM
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14. Hear hear! What to do when you like them all?
Back during the primaries I kept thinking my God we've got a lot of good people on our side. I didn't agree with all of them on every issue, but

not one of them needed to have the others trashed to look good.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:43 PM
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15. I agree 100%
Let's save our fire for the PNAC and the * cabal. :patriot:

The Democrats in question aren't warring with each other, so why do their fans? These are not sports teams, people. Politics affects real lives.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:32 PM
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23. Amazing that what Dems hate about Reps they can also allow for themselves.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:45 PM
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16. I'm very happy..
... to see Kerry stepping in and helping out. I'm not about to say anything bad about him right now :)
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 10:27 PM
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28. I'm happy to see all good Dems standing up.
I just saw a post where Gov. Dean was in Ohio reinforcing the events that were going on in DC about reform and about the Repubs being the party of corruption. Nice job. I *love* seeing all the Dems together on this and backing each other up. Nice job!
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:52 PM
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17. I loved it yesterday when Wolfie asked Kerry if he agreed with
Gore that Bush was breaking the law. His one word unequivocal response. "YES".

In her way Hillary was also agreeing with him.

If the powerful Dems could get together and decide who would be best to run in 2008, we could eliminate the cost of advertising and avoid the awful blood letting that always occurs during the primaries as the candidates try to best one another.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:21 PM
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18. Absolutely. They KNOW what they agree on but move to obscure it too much.
Damn Democrats hate being herded, even when it's a SAFETY ISSUE.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:56 PM
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21. What you suggest would be a very elitist thing
I want to see blood-letting. Only the strongest Democratic candidate must survive.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 10:22 PM
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27. When the "strongest Democrat" survived for the 2004 election
he was weaker as an opponent (1) by virtue of the money spent on the campaign and (2) the other Democrats had hounded him for months giving the Republicans a head start.

In 2008, the Republicans won't have the luxury of another non-primary situation. That's good.

I didn't mean by my suggestion that a handful of Democrats would sit around a back room somewhere and decide on the candidate. I did mean that maybe some of the weaker ones should somehow be discouraged to participate. There was strong evidence in 2004 that at least on primary candidate was actually funded by Republicans.

The most important thing the Dems could do would be to come to an agreement on the main issues (1) the war in Iraq, (2) the assault on the Constitution by Bush administration, (3) the voting fraud , (4) the economy , (5) the deficit, (6) Reconstruction of the Gulf Coast and (7) medicare and medicaid assistance for the sick and elderly. There are many other issues that need attention.

Having done that, they need to tone down their attacks during the primaries on fellow candidates.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 10:15 AM
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30. When Dems REACH for differentiation with primary opponents the campaigns
almost always EXAGGERATE the differences even when the stances are quite similar.

It's those exaggerations that come back to hurt the nominee, because they have already gained acceptance with a segment of his own party. Makes it easier for the mediwhores shilling for the GOP.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 12:09 AM
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33. Exactly. They need to try to select their candidate without
weakening the selected one's chances by too much campaign rancor during the primary. At all cost they should refrain from hurting each others' future. One way to do that would be to campaign only on the points that each candidate feels is their strength, not the weaknesses of the other.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:22 PM
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19. Kicking, BLM -- thanks for your post
:kick: :dem: :bounce: :dem: :kick:
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samhsarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:03 PM
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22. Well, since you put it that way....
:kick:
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