How much of a threat is Hezbollah to Israel's existence ?

[kentuck]

Poll question: How much of a threat is Hezbollah to Israel's existence ?

From no threat at all to a critical threat to Israel's survival.

[ContraBass Black]

1. Certainly they can kill people, but I think it unlikely that they can

Eliminate the country altogether, however much they may want to.

[leftofthedial]

2. they are a continuing threat to random small groups of civilians

Zero threat to the nation's existence

unless, of course, Israel keeps showing themselves for the fascists they are and alienates what's left of the civilized world.

[BillZBubb]

3. They currently pose no threat to Israel's existence.

But let Israel keep up the thuggish behavior and one day they might have created a monster they can't dominate.

[oasis]

10. Israel's behavior will be the key to their survival. They can't continue

to pick fights and have their big brother(U.S.A.) back them up.

[SPKrazy]

28. Only To Israeli's Existence

guess that's okay with you eh?

[oasis]

32. "Israeli existence" is the topic.

What's your point?

[SPKrazy]

34. Umm, I Said "Israeli's" As In Plural Of Individual Citizens of Israel

DID YOU GET MY POINT YET?????


:dunce:

Edited to add:

What did you Edit in your post?

[KG]

4. yeah, like a rag-tag guerilla group is a threat to the existance

of the most powerful military state in the mid-east.

give me a fuckin break.

[BayCityProgressive]

5. I don't agree with anything in the poll so I didn't vote

They are a medium danger now, they have proven this by capturing soldiers and killing civilians. There hate for Israel and Jews could definately make them a much bigger threat 5-10 yrs down the line when Syria or Iran give them something a little bigger to lob at Israel though...I think that is the whole point here.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

6. Mainly a threat because of the Israeli response.

Much like Al-Queda isn't a threat to the USA's existence of itself, the idiotic response to it has enflamed the Arab world and shown our weakness. The same is true of Israel v Hezbullah. Whatever chance Israel had of negotiating a long term accomodation with it's neighbors is now in the toilet. Any government in the region that tries a "moderate" approach to Israel will endanger it's own existence at the hands of it's own people.

Both Al-Queda and Hezbullah couldn't have asked to a better response to their provocations.

[BayCityProgressive]

8. What?

How is Al Qaeda not a threat to US existence? They may not have WMD to take out huge segments of the population yet, but given time I am sure they would try. I was against the war in Iraq, but I think some here have just become completely pacifist in every way and that isn't how the real world operates..

[BillZBubb]

14. How is Al Qaeda a threat to US EXISTENCE????

I think some here have just become loony Kool Aid drinkers at the "fear, fear, fear, terror, terror, terror" propaganda booth.

There is NO WAY ON EARTH Al Qaeda could end the United States as an entity. NO WAY. They could do us great harm and kill a lot of us, but never put us out of existence. If you believe otherwise, you are beyond reason.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

23. The only ones who could end the US as we know it

are Americans who take advantage of the situation and systematically set out to destroy the Constitution--sort of like what appears to be happening right now.

[BuyingThyme]

36. Yep.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

33. The "real" world is just jampacked with hobgoblins and bogeymen.

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” H.L. Mencken

[CuteNFuzzy]

7. zero threat to Israel's existence

very much a threat to the people of Israel many of whom suffer from hizballah's attacks and more who live in fear, but a threat to Israel's existence? None at all.

[kentuck]

9. How much of a threat is Israel to Lebanon's and Hezbollah's existence?

What if that had been the question? Would your response have been the same?

[BayCityProgressive]

11. They are a threat to

Hizbullah's existance with good reason. SOme of the actiosn they are taking are threatening the democratic existence of Lebanon. Bombing Beirut was not needed and is counterproducitve.

[Lefty48197]

12. They only people they threaten are the scores of innocents they murder

each year.

[kentuck]

13. How many scores have they killed in the last 5 years??

Before these present hostilities began? I don't wish to engage in hyperbole.

[Lefty48197]

17. Probably not less than 1000

what with all the city buses they feel obligated to blow up, the pizza parlors, the saytr dinners etc.

[kentuck]

18. Are you talking about Hezbollah ??

Someone posted on this earlier. I will try to find the link.

here is some info posted by another DUer..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1744415&mesg_id=1745900

[Minstrel Boy]

20. This is about Hezbollah, not Hamas, Al Aqsa Brigades, et al.

Hezbollah, AFAIK, have not been blowing up buses and Israeli establishments. I cannot find more than a dozen or so Israeli casualties, most of them military, attributed to Hezbollah before the current escalation in the past five years.

But please, anyone, if I'm wrong please correct me, with sources.

[ContraBass Black]

15. The later poll options don't match the question. The question that they

Answer is "How much does Hezbollah want to be a threat to Israel's existence?"

[LSK]

19. why do I keep thinking of all the BS claims to invade Iraq??

When I see stuff like this?

:shrug:

[oberliner]

16. But are they a threat to Middle East Peace?

And should they be dismantled and disarmed?

And to answer your poll question: I think Hezbollah is a threat to Israel's existance, but I do not feel that I have enough information or understanding to quantify how much of a threat.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

21. I'm still trying to figure out the real connection between

Hezbollah and Syria and Iran. No, I'm not talking about those countries providing them with weapons, that's a given. But I want to know why. If Iran, for example, really wants Israel wiped off the map, why aren't they supplying Hezbollah with planes so they can bomb? Or nukes?

I'm wondering if maybe the reason is twofold:

1. They are playing a game of chicken. They know if they gave Hezbollah nukes, then Israel would retaliate against them, and they're not ready for that. So they give Hezbollah just enough to keep Israel busy and distracted.

2. They really don't want Israel destroyed. It's too good a whipping boy. Let's face it, if the people of your country are dissatisfied with your regime, what better way to keep THEM busy and distracted than to heat up the ever simmering war?

Any other ideas?

[kentuck]

22. Read this link...

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/ED04Ak01.html

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

26. Thank you, kentuck!

This shows that the whole scenerio is much more complicated than I imagined.

[kentuck]

27. Then read this link from today's Haaretz newspaper..

and connect the dots...

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=332835

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

30. Ah, complications upon complications!

Turkey is a secular government, and would be harmed financially if this pipeline is laid. You'd think if Bushco were really interested in secular democracies being promoted in the ME, they'd figure out some sort of deal with the Turks to make up for the lost revenue.

[Crunchy Frog]

24. More an annoyance than a threat

as far as the actual existence of Israel is concerned. I'm not saying that they don't threaten the lives of some individual Israelis, though they don't appear to pose much of a threat in that area either as far as I can tell from the actual fatality numbers.

That they may wish for Israel to disappear is immaterial. If you could be punished just for wanting something, I would have been arrested by the Secret Service long ago.

The greatest threat to Israel right now is Israel, IMHO.

[DireStrike]

25. They will use whatever weapons they can get their hands on

But that is not much outside of AKs and rockets.

Not a huge threat, but they do damage buildings and kill people.

[sweetheart]

29. zero

The threat is to themselves, each of them, and themselves.

[Lilith Velkor]

31. The IRA's gonna destroy England!!!111

:P

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

35. It's a threat to MANY things, but Israel's EXISTENCE's not one of them. nt

[Yupster]

37. If Iran gets nuclear weapons,

will a few find their way to Hezbullah, and will Hezbullah send them into Israel?

And after some Israeli cities blow up and Iran denies anything to do with it, then what?