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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:46 AM
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Leave My Shoes Alone (revisisted).
Just got back from a multi-leg cross country flight and have to do it again next month and I'm annoyed to say that it just keeps getting more absurd. I wrote this over a year ago and kept thinking it has to change...people have to wake up...someone has to say NO...now I find that my wife who is a much more frequent traveler than I am has become COMPLACENT about it...never thought I'd see it but she and all the other folks in the line now do it automatically...we can indeed get conditioned to accept any idiocy if they march us thru the rat maze long enough. But since I said it once I figured why not say it again. I'd like to note that I didn't see any actual searches of people...no questions asked...no one pulled out of line. But I saw every single person in NYC, Boston, and Dallas forced to remove their shoes (and hats). And we wonder why Fox News is successful? Because we are trained sheep (and sadly I was too resistant to destroying our trip and embarassing my wife to be anything other than a pissed off sheep myself). But something has to change...so far it hasn't.

*Repost from 2005*

I flew again this week. As I did so I was suprised that the security which, up till last October had just been retarded and obnoxious had become (according to the security guard who I questioned) Downright insanely intrusive.

Apparently, as of last fall, every passenger going thru security must now remove their shoes. Not as part of a periodic check...but as part of any entrance for every person.

Every person? This got me to thinking, and wondering....

We've had 1...yes...1 attempted and FAILED attempt to use a shoe as a weapon on a plane in the history of flight as far as I can tell...any data to the contrary would be appreciated.

Anyway so as I pondered this...1 event, by 1 nutberger, that failed ...has now been used as a reason (excuse) to require millions of people to hope around like barefoot clowns. It's been used to inconvenience and annoy countless people...in fact...how many people and how much inconvenience are we talking about?

Well according to Delta's site, they flew 109,999,636 people in 2004. Delta serves some overseas sites...but Delta is only one of many US airlines. So lets say somewhere between 100 and 300 million people in the next year? Average it out to 200 million shoeless people...200 million people in business suits, 200 million grannies with canes, 200 million people with athelets foot running around in the airport...

All because 1/ONE/UNO guy frantically trying to apply his bic lighter to a shoe has been used to induce panic in the entire population of this big country.

Can you ask about the Cost/Benefit? Can you say Risk assessment?

What are the odds we'll be struck by lightening, an asteroid, or die from a bee sting? What is the liklihood that I'll have a bundle of iron pipes fall off the back of a truck tomorrow and crush me in my car on the freeway? What are the odds that I'll have a freak bathtub drowning incident?

Well I'm not worried about any of those...and I don't take off my shoes for any of those things...nor do I routinely and publically inconvenience myself for these things. I do, however, appear to be required to worry about my shoe blowing up during flight.

This is absurd.

Moreover, as I reflect on it, I think it's nefarious. Yes a nutberger could use a shoe (or any other semi-solid object) to carry some plastik (sp?) explosive on an airplane. Apparently it isn't detected by the alarm system...

So if that's the case, what's to prevent myself from (please take no offense) stuffing it up my rectum? They haven't yet institued automatic cavity checks but if I'm a suicidal bomber I don't see why this would be a barrier to my insane plans (note I am not either suicidal nor a bomber, I'm just an annoyed American who's sick to death of intrusions to my person).

Seems to me we have a perfect example of the frog in the pot here. The intent is NOT to protect us. Face it, there are about 1000 things I could do that would be as or more effective than constructing a shoe bomb...but which would be far easier to carry out (no I won't even think of them or list them because that's probably a threat to someone)...So why would we begin the mighty de-shoeing crusade in every airport, forcing people to hop around like fools while security people are forced to endure the foul stench of gym socks for hours on end, every day, in every airport, without an end?

Simplest reason in my mind? Well it's either

A) to give us a very expensive and time consuming ILLUSION that they are doing SOMETHING...

or

B) A cynical attempt to get us used to doing anything, no matter how inane and rediculous they tell us to do because it has the label of "SECURITY" stamped on it. The warmup for the bigger events to follow.

My bet...it's both A & B. They pacify us with the thought that they are somehow really getting TOUGH (let someone try and mess with an airplane after forgetting to re-tie their shoes in security) AND they get the very convenient (and I believe forseen) side effect of proving to themselves that yes...we...the American public will pretty much follow any order they give like the good sheep they hope us to be.

Where do we go from here? I don't rightly know at the moment. I'm avoiding flying as much as possible, writing my letters on DU and to the Editor, and even to my rep...but I'm a small peep in a giant din of political machinery. I suppose I could just dismiss it...it's only a minor thing after all...and so is the RFID chip in my national ID card...I'm sure that having my library books tracked and having to show my papers to cross state lines will be too.

Perhaps I'll get used to it all...I probably just woke up too soon, and noticed the water heating up. But honestly, I'm not feeling like being poached...and I feel like we've only seen the first shoe start to drop here...and I don't look forward to seeing what will happen when the second one descends.

Random thoughts from a disgruntled flyer,

Prot.

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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:48 AM
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1. Interestingly while I was relocating the above
I got sent this essay that seemed to dovetail with my own feelings so well.

*
by Joan Chittister OSB

----------------------------------------------

We are a country held hostage by fear.

It's difficult to go through an airport these days -- and I go through
lots of them here and around the world -- without doing some serious
soul-searching about it.

The famous question repeats itself over and over again in the tiniest of
ways in me: Are we better off today than we were five years ago?

In Asia, for instance, I do not need to take off jackets and jewelry and
buckles and cell phones as I go, not even my shoes.

In Europe there are no body scans and puffers as there are in
Albuquerque.

In Africa and South America, they do not submit my computer to body
scans of its own.

In those places, I forget for a moment that in the United States I live
behind a wall that the world dare not penetrate. I forget for a while
that we are a city under siege. I forget that I am going in and out of
an armed camp called "the land of the free, the home of the brave."

What I cannot forget when I read the morning papers is that once upon a
time, in the not too long ago, we didn't live this way. What happened?

If the question were asked about baseball instead of politics, somebody
would be keeping a box score, a chart of gains and losses. In fact,
managers and players would be hired and fired on the basis of it.
But not in politics. Not us. Instead, we re-elect politicians to "stay
the course."
So what is "the course"?

There's nothing esoteric here. Read the front page of any newspaper and
the direction is clear.

Instead of working with moderate governments and the world community,
instead of courting public opinion and international support, instead of
trying to understand the U.S. image around the world and working to
change it, instead of asking why gleeful children danced in the streets
when the Twin Towers fell, instead of doing something positive to
correct it, we fed right into it.

We did the frontier thing and began to kill people ourselves. As in
"That'll show ' em who's boss." Except that it hasn't.

So what has it done?

By defining the attack on the Twin Towers as the declaration of global
war, it has made global war a reality. As a result, it provides an
excuse for any authoritarian government to call its dissenters
"terrorists" and suppress them.

So much for the freedom of speech we like to say we're seeding around
the world.

By launching high technology weapons against countries whose armies are
under equipped and whose borders are porous, we have even managed to
reinstitute a nuclear arms race.

Iran and North Korea have joined the new race out of fear of what might
happen to them if in the future they, too, fall afoul of either our bad
intelligence or our horrendous swashbuckling and our unilateral decree
that they are evil and in need of regime change.

In the face of almost half a century of negotiated peace and global
understanding with Muslim nations from Africa to Indonesia, 19
terrorists managed to create what is now called -- assumed to be -- a
"clash of civilizations" rather than a plague of religious extremists it
so obviously is.

So we fight in the dark everywhere, claiming thousands of innocent lives
and few "terrorists." We do it against those who claim no flag, no
government, no terms of peace, and we may never know if we have managed
to defeat them or not.

While old ladies and small children go on forever removing their jackets
and shoes and cell phones in U.S. airport security lines, the United
States has been exposed as a torture state.

The government refuses to submit its military behavior to an
International War Crimes Tribunal and so, as far as the rest of the
world is concerned, admits that its behaviors are in question.

And all of this on account of 19 politically independent, unauthorized
fanatics. They provoked from us an all-out irrational response against
the wrong people and now the whole world is asked to take sides.

Meanwhile -- has anybody noticed -- Osama bin Laden is still free
somewhere and sending us tapes?

The Taliban have returned to Afghanistan. Millions of civilians have
either left Iraq, are internal refugees in their own country or have
been killed there in order to protect them.

And here, in the United States, paranoia grips the land. The
Constitution is being shredded one line at a time. We are facing a
decade-long moratorium on social issues, because all our money is going
into war against whom we don't know and where we're not sure.

In the meantime, the richest country in the world cannot have universal
medical insurance, day care services, subsidized housing or welfare
programs, and the army is where the young go to get an education. If
they make it back in any condition to go to school.

No, the world did not change after 9/11. We did.

The question is , what else could we possibly have done? Is there any
kind of response that would have been more effective than what we did?
And if so, why aren't we doing it?

From where I stand, it isn't that 9/11 did not demand a response. It's
that the response we made has the smell of insanity.

In fact, we may have done more to harm ourselves as a result of our
response to it than any 19 -- 19! -- terrorists could ever have hoped.
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Bitter Cup Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:04 PM
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10. That is an amazing essay
"once upon a time, in the not too long ago, we didn't live this way." and we shouldn't be living that way now.

No healthy society lives on fear and paranoia.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:52 AM
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2. I don't travel much - maybe 2 trips a year tops.
But the shoe thing annoys the crap out of me, too. I wear tennis shoes - everywhere. And they don't simply slip off/on. I have to figure out somewhere I can grab all my crap (laptop bag, laptop which of course has to be removed from the case to go thru the x-ray, cell phone, keys, etc., etc.) and get out of the way of other people where I either have to sit down on the dirty floor and tie my shoes back on or prop one leg up on a surface about 2 feet too high to comfortably tie one's shoes on.

I agree with you on A&B, by the way.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:52 AM
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3. The Shoe, Sock, and Hosiery Lobby has been working very hard on this.
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 10:54 AM by tanyev
Bastards.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:40 AM
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5. I just want a "personal dignity" lobby
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 11:43 AM by Protagoras
have we had ANY congress critters object to the idiocy and invasiveness of our current system yet? Wonder how many government lists one could get on trying to create an active lobby against this whole setup...

wonder if I can take this mug on the plane during my next trip?

http://www.wickedcoolstuff.com/vacilimughac.html
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 03:43 PM
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9. Maybe if we all incorporated ourselves the Bush administration
would have more regard for us.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:04 AM
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4. You are not required to remove your shoes.
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 11:37 AM by Gormy Cuss
They just make it nearly impossible for you to wear shoes that you won't be asked to remove.
http://www.tsa.dot.gov/public/display?theme=183&content=09000519800b68b8

Because I view this mandatory striptease with optional medical exam to be more dog and pony show to convince travelers that we are safe rather than real security, I push the buttons every time. I have a pair of thin soled, all synthetic sandals that I carry in my carry-on. I put my real shoes in the bin but walk through with the sandals on my feet. Sometimes a screener will act like they're doing me a giant favor by letting me go through but none have stopped me yet. The first one who stops me will be given a copy of the above TSA directive and asked to explain how the footwear is nonconforming. I don't care if I'm put on the no-fly list. I no longer have a job that requires travel and family trips are infrequent enough that I could choose to take the longer land route options.

It's all intended to keep us convinced that security will come only if we are willing to give the government absolute power to treat us all like criminals. And we like lemmings aren't going to realize that we've gone over the cliff until we smack into the ocean.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:46 AM
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6. true, if you are willing to be pulled from the line
have a full search and have your shoes swabbed then they will not require you to remove them. However they will stop you, make a spectacle of you, and strongly suggest that you do so... Ain't freedom grand?

BTW notice that these sorts of lines and procedures are extending WAY beyond airports now. I had to go through a metal detector and have my bag searched to get into the Daily Show...and that is not a joke.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:15 PM
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7. A recent example of sheep-like conformity.
We went to a major tourist attraction recently with some relatives. Like many popular attractions with long lines, it was a highly choreographed experience from the entry point to the end. There were lines for everything and incessant announcements over the PA system. Like other tourist attractions they have a concessionaire who takes photos before you go on tour and then tries to sell the pricey print when your tour comes back to the visitor center. These little scams are usually set up to look like a mandatory part of the process. At this attraction for example the camera was set up just inside the ticket gate.

The relatives remarked that they were resigned about the need for these sorts of security procedures with all those terrorists out there. I said, no, this is a commercial venture and one can walk by without stopping. When we got to the front of the line, they were shocked to see that no one forced me to stop. Even after seeing that I was right, they stood in place and had their pictures taken. These are not people who would pay $20 bucks for a hokey souvenir photo but going against the flow was just too hard for them. The kicker is they claim to be anti-nanny state and against government intrusion or infringements of our rights under the Constitution.

I wish more people would wise up to this stuff.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:23 PM
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8. When I flew with my family in May of this year, I took my shoes off,
put them through the x-ray machine and then I was pulled out of line because my shoes were suspicious. They performed some type of chemical analysis on them, I guess looking for explosives. It took another 5 minutes, although it didn't matter in the long run because our flight was delayed for 4 hours because of a mechanical problem.

I used to fly several times a week on business pre-9/11. You couldn't pay me enough to take a job today that required frequent air travel.
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