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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:13 AM
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Borrow and spend Gov't going broke. Wants to raise the debt-limit.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051230/pl_afp/uspoliticse...

Those "fiscally responsible" Republicans have outspent the credit card again.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:15 AM
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1. Dammit! I want my debt limit raised, too. What do you think the
chances are of that happening?
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:32 AM
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6. Individual: Close to 0%, Government: Close to 100%
Reason: Individuals have, probably, defaulted on a debt at least once. The government never has. One day, it will, and that will be the start of the brutal downward spiral.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:19 AM
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2. What's the point of a debt limit if you can raise it whenever you want to?
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:24 AM
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3. A very good point you have here. nm
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:30 AM
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5. To give the appearance that politicians care how much they spend.
Congress deciding when to raise its debt-limit embodies absolutely no check and balance on which our government was founded. I suppose one could argue that the President has to sign it into law, affording an Executive check on a Legislative measure, but in reality, both the Executive and Legislative branch always benefit from a larger credit card; they can do more with less push back. So, it seems the check and balance is vacuous.

I believe the problem is that it's in the interest of every politician to have a larger budget, so no intra-politic system of checks and balance will effectively work. To handle it in the current system, we'd have to continue to not vote for "spenders" (regardless of whether they're "taxers"), but we can only do that after the spendings happened, and often after the debt ceiling is raised, so there's no way to effectively lower the spending.

I wish people would understand that "tax and spend" is better than "spend," but neither is smart. I wish people would demand that budget and spending being part of campaign platforms. Their really doesn't seem to be an fiscal conservative faction at work anywhere in the government, and -- you guessed it -- I wish there was.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:24 AM
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4. The goal of this EVIL regime is to bankrupt the USA nm
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:09 PM
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7. Well, we could sell Texas to China if they were dumb enough
to buy it and we threw in Oklahoma and Kansas and our first-born children. Naaah..they'll just wait to foreclose on what we owe them now and take it all.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 12:38 PM
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8. This rethug Congress reminds me of that old joke .....



"I can't be overdrawn. I still have more checks."



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