DU this Poll for New Orleans

[WestHoustonDem]

Should HANO and HUD reopen housing developments they have slated to demolish?
http://www.nola.com/abc26/poll2/

[ncrainbowgrrl]

1. Done.

:kick:

[Minnesota Libra]

2. Done nt

[Nicole]

3. Done

Should HANO and HUD reopen housing developments they have slated to demolish?
Yes 61.3%
No 38.7%

[KamaAina]

4. Yes they should AND they should rebuild homes

across the city, to replace some of the projects (Desire, Florida) that were basically completely inundated. That way some of the Federal $$$ goes to resettling public housing tenants in neighborhoods struggling to repopulate.

Instead it's been like pulling teeth even to get them to reopen projects (Iberville) that suffered minimal damage. :grr:

edit: spelling

[pitohui]

15. desire project was already removed before katrina!

be that as it may, why would you condemn these people to violent dirty slums forever?

poor people should not be ghetto-ized into housing projects forever, where the police can conveniently forget abt them on the presumption that they don't pay taxes and where their lives become a hell on earth!

we have an opportunity to make some changes, and the changes should be thus --

people who can't afford to own and operate vehicles, or who are too disabled/elderly to work and to operate motor vehicles, should seriously consider remaining elsewhere -- almost any state gives its disabled better benefits and without the worry of the person being trapped in event of another evacuation

working healthy people and families who need low income housing, there needs to be a way to integrate these people into the community, instead of segregating them into housing projects which are promptly written off by the police and left to become living hells on earth for the vulnerable people trapped in them, i guess this means that if they are section 8, the gov't should pay more of a share of the rent instead of maintaining the fiction that the poor person will pay part when they obviously can't afford to, so that landlords won't stop maintaining section 8 property and allow entire neighborhoods to again become ghetto-ized

yes, this would be more costly than merely slamming people back into a miserable dirty and now moldly slum -- and it is esp. tempting when some of the people are so victimized and incapable of imagining a better future that they actually beg to be slammed back into the miserable dirty moldly slum -- but it is the right thing to do

rebuilding these horrible nightmarish projects is just wrong on so many levels

no one here would live in such a place, don't condemn others to that existence

[KamaAina]

19. Strange to say, some people consider them home and community

Many of them are elderly, and not all of them are going to stay out. Hawai'i's benefits generally suck, too; should we all move back to the mainland?

i guess this means that if they are section 8, the gov't should pay more of a share of the rent instead of maintaining the fiction that the poor person will pay part when they obviously can't afford to

Excellent analysis. Much of what we do in my office has to do with Sec. 8 complaints. All the more reason to favor a scattered-site approach over the quasi-free market Sec. 8. And what better place to do it than N.O., which has few available market rentals but thousands upon thousands of fixer-uppers; two or three on each flooded block should accommodate everyone, while helping to resettle neighborhoods across town. (By the way, LRA appears to have plugged the loophole regarding doubles. Sorry to have unnecessarily alarmed anyone; I'd been reading an early draft.) The few remaining developments could then be rebuilt at a much lower density, not as "violent dirty slums". No one wants that, except maybe the Bushies, when they think no one's listening.

[uppityperson]

5. done

[biscotti]

6. done

[Hippo_Tron]

7. I think that they should re-open them but only temporarily

Katrina has given us the opportunity to actually plan how we want our city to be. Every experiment in developing exclusively low income housing has completely failed. We should be focusing on building mixed income housing because those neighborhoods don't breed the problems that low income housing neighborhoods do. Since developments will take some time and since we need to get people back to New Orleans, I would support re-opening the projects for now. But I would also support setting a deadline in which we would start moving people into better alternative housing.

[EFerrari]

8. Done and thanks, WestHoustonDem.

:hi:

[WestHoustonDem]

11. My pleasure - I can't even believe it's a question!

:hi:

[pitohui]

13. yes for you live in houston

and houston's motive is to get rid of us, even if we must live in slum housing forever

but i can assure you it is v. much a question

it is past the time of century for decent alternatives to be built

[WestHoustonDem]

14. That's a little unfair of you to assume that's my motive

I worked with many people who came from public housing when they were housed at the convention center and they wanted to go home. Personally, I'd prefer they stay here and vote for Democrats. I just want people to have the choice.

[pitohui]

16. maybe a little but you know where i'm coming from

it is certainly the motive of many who are exploiting the weak on this issue tho

[WestHoustonDem]

18. There will be people in Houston motivated by the

fear the media has fostered about displaced New Orleanians. I'm not one of them.

[tibbir]

9. Done

60.9% for
39.1% against

[me b zola]

10. yes, 60.7%

:grouphug:

[pitohui]

17. i weep for humanity

ship em all back to some miserable housing project, out of sight, out of mind, there's the ticket

do i really need this? :sarcasm:

think, people, THINK!

[EFerrari]

Kick

[pitohui]

12. DU it how?

those horrible places should never be rebuilt, you would not condemn anyone you loved to live there nor would you live there yourself

it may seem the cheap way out to continue to ghetto-ize people but it never works out well in the long run