Which is worse, the ages or the manipulative lies

[uppityperson]

Poll question: Which is worse, the ages or the manipulative lies

Edited to add, I am trying to clarify my question, so please bear with me.

People are raped, tortured, killed, mutilated EVERY DAY in Iraq. Yes, what happened to Abeer and her family WAS a horrific crime and the "alleged" rapists, mass murderers need to be tried and sentenced, but these things have happened to others in Iraq without the outrage given for this family.

There is another problem with this story in that Abeer was first presented as a "woman", then we found out she was a 14 yr old. Why was this misinformation given out? I can see 2 possibilities, are probably more.

1. It is difficult to tell ages. It was an innocent mistake since the people involved, and still alive, really did not know how old she was. As more information is coming out, corrections are made.

2. The military and MSM deliberately misled us, lied to us, to make the crime of rape, murder, mutilation seem not so bad by presenting it as another war crime done to an adult. I am NOT saying that anyone thinks or feels that this crime would be any better if it were done to an adult, say Abeer's mother, but that people tend to be more protective of minors. So, she was claimed to be an adult to stifle the extra outrage that people might feel if they knew her true age.

So, is the problem, the outrage, the worse thing the fact that Abeer WAS only 14, or the fact that we caught the releasers of information in this misinformation, possibly an attempt to cover up this crime?

And please realize that most of us are on the same side with this, that we are NOT saying rape is ok at any age. Please. We have caught them manipulating information in a heinous crime and send your outrage where it can do the best good, MSM, letters to everywhere and everyone and let's get this occupation stopped. Thank you.

[SteppingRazor]

1. I think the crime itself is obviously worse than the lies...

without the crime itself, after all, the lies would not have been told. Therefore, the manipulative lies are just another effect of the crime.

[uppityperson]

11. thanks and I changed it after your and Bornaginhooligan's posts

sorry, but am trying to clarify what I am asking. Thanks for helping me and I agree with you here.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. I'm pretty sure...

that raping a 15 year old, then killing her, her siblings, and her parents...

is in fact worse than spin doctoring.

Call me a loon.

[uppityperson]

3. hmm, perhaps I should say the age of the victims?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. Absolutely.

If, for example, they had raped the mom, then killed the rest of the family, it wouldn't have been as bad as spin doctoring.

:eyes:

[uppityperson]

6. Truly there are those that feel that way, however, please read this

And please realize that most of us are on the same side with this, that we are NOT saying rape is ok at any age. Please. We have caught them manipulating information in a heinous crime and send your outrage where it can do the best good, MSM, letters to everywhere and everyone and let's get this occupation stopped. Thank you.

[Uncle Joe]

7. If you had said age of the person, I would have said manipulative lies.

As it is stated I will go with both, because the lies lead to the potential of more atrocities occurring the longer the American People are mislead and kept in the dark from the truth, The whole war was based on lies.

[Uncle Joe]

8. Okay you updated before I voted and I checked lies. n/t

[uppityperson]

9. sorry, doing the best I can

I know the voting will be off because I changed things, but trying to get this straight what I mean and avoid getting torched too. Thanks for your input. sigh. this whole thing just sucks, but I feel I need to help make the war/occupation stop and if using this helps, I will. Thanks again.

[Uncle Joe]

10. Thanks for the effort uppityperson and peace to you. n/t

[AndyA]

4. Obviously the crime is worse than the spin, but the fact that the facts of

the story may have been manipulated is still an outrage. Even if the girl had been old enough to be called a woman, what happened to her and her family is beyond comprehension. How a human could do such things to another human is beyond me. In fact, I don't believe a human is capable of such things. Animals are, but not humans.

To twist or distort facts for whatever reason is wrong. I would hope it was an accident, but with everything else the media has spun lately, I wouldn't be surprised at anything they do now.

[Lowell]

12. It is hard to spin rape and murder

no matter the circumstances or ages of the victims.

[uppityperson]

13. not hard at all for the MSM

they do it all the time, girl disappears vs woman disappears. Child murdered vs man murdered. It happens all the time and this time they were caught doing it. NOT SAYNG that rape and murder are ok dependent on age, not at all, just adds that extra bit of selling your time on the media, people will check back regular to see what happened to (whoseit at wheresit) if she is young, and you can sell more ad time.