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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 06:20 PM
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Al Giordano: A Full Recount Would Show that López Obrador Won
A Full Recount Would Show that López Obrador Won Mexico’s Presidency by More than One Million Votes
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A Narco News investigation has found that in the small sample of precincts – less than one percent – where a recount was allowed, the shift in numbers away from Calderón was so drastic that, if recounts of all the ballots followed the same trend, the official results would invert and Andrés Manuel López Obrador would become the clear winner of the presidency by more than one million votes:

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It is objectively false to report, as major news organizations have done, that there was a “recount” of votes on Wednesday. There was no such thing. What occurred was the first actual counting of reported precinct results, something that occurs days after every election, and the results demonstrate the overwhelming evidence that a full recount is necessary in order to achieve an accurate result.

On Wednesday, there was partial recount of less than one percent of the ballots: a partial recount that lowered Calderón’s supposed margin of victory by more than six percentage points, or more than 13,000 votes. In the context of the fraudulent results discovered in this sample of recounted ballots, it can therefore be projected that a recount of just 18.7 percent of the ballots would tie the race. A full recount – if the votes in the ballot boxes have not been tampered with or disappeared (as has already occurred in various parts of the Republic when marked ballots have been discovered in municipal dumps and garbage cans on the streets) – will show a victory by candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador by more than one million votes: 1,056, 900, more closely estimated.

López Obrador’s campaign is, in fact, seeking a recount of only those precincts where it found indications of fraud: a lot of them: 43,000, more or less. This extrapolation – if those precincts are counted vote-by-vote – would give his candidacy a victory of 243,000 votes.

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http://www.narconews.com/Issue42/article1967.html
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 06:25 PM
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1. I keep hoping for a recount
these stolen elections have to stop!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 06:27 PM
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2. I keep looking for revolution
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 07:02 PM
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7. it's hard to have a revolution against Big Oil
but they may just be able to get through with a recount
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 06:27 PM
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3. Everyone knows this
More elections are stolen than oil these days and a lot of fugging oil is stolen :D
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Totallybushed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 06:32 PM
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4. Easy to say,
hard to prove, or get done. As we found out in 2000 and 2004. Even when the facts are on your side, they have to be "proven", or nothing gets done.

Best not to let the election get stolen to begin with. After the votes are "counted" a "burden of proof" sets in that is very, very, very hard to overcome.
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 06:43 PM
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5. vote shaving and their very own Florida
Guanajuato as Florida

The north-central Mexican state of Guanajuato – home turf of President Vicente Fox and an importantísimo electoral base for his and Calderón’s PAN party – is where official results from the state’s 6,122 precincts (less than five percent of the national vote) gave Calderón a margin of more than 700,000 votes. That is to say, even according the highly suspicious official results, López Obrador won the rest of the country by almost half a million votes. This was a state where electoral fraud was carried out – and continues to be covered up – on a systematic basis.

There, in Guanajuato, the official results from 640 of those 6,122 precincts show discrepancies and irregularities which include more votes cast than are voters in the precinct, more votes cast for Calderón than votes cast in the precinct, electoral officials that refused to count the votes in public, discrepancies between the actual result and the reported result, missing or suspect vote tally reports, each of them sufficient to trigger, under law, a vote-by-vote recount in the first instance; on Wednesday, despite motions to count the votes in each of those 640 precincts, Guanajuato election officials allowed only eight to be recounted.

Those eight precincts – representing 0.13 percent of the state’s vote – reduced Calderón’s margin by 253 votes, or an average of 31 votes per precinct. If the remaining 632 precincts with irregularities were to show a similar shift, López Obrador’s count would increase by 19,592 votes. If all 6,122 precincts, counted by hand, were to show a similar shift, Guanajuato alone would change the national tally by 189,782 votes. From five percent of the Republic, Calderón’s official margin of victory would, according to our math, be reduced nationwide by 77 percent, from 244,000 to just 55,000 votes. That is just one state with just five percent of the nation’s population.

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Vote Shaving, “Ant Style”

With a 244,000 “official” margin in the nation’s 130,000 precincts, the IFE-claimed margin comes down to less than two votes per precinct: less than two per ballot box, as many precincts contain more than one. An electoral fraud can be carried out simply by “shaving” or adding a few votes here and there: this pattern is already documented to have helped Calderón on the IFE PREP totals, and that IFE’s own website furnished the visible proof may explain why IFE – for all its claims of transparency – has not put the Wednesday “official count” results up by precinct online. Even as IFE has declared Calderón the winner, it has refused to account, precinct by precinct, where it got its current set of numbers.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-08-06 06:59 PM
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6. I hope the people hit the streets hard. I hope that we do too when the
next election theft happens here.
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