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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 04:34 PM
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Al Gore is changing the debate!
An email I just sent Howard Dean:

Al Gore is changing the debate! As more and more people are exposed to Gore’s message either directly or indirectly, I have noticed in both personal conversations and in the press that more and more people are recognizing the reality of global warming and environmental issues in general are becoming more of a concern to the general public. The protests of global warming nay-sayers are becoming increasingly shrill and impotent and are largely being ignored. Personally, Gore’s comments comparing these protests to previous Tobacco Industries efforts is the most powerful argument - this is a comparison that Americans remember and understand.

If those of us seeking a return to Democracy build on the groundwork that Al Gore has laid, environmental issues can become one of the most important issues in both the 2006 mid-terms and the 2008 elections, if not THE most important issue. According to this Berkeley paper http://ist-socrates.berkeley.edu/~es196/projects/2005fi... , all of the White Euro-American mainline pastors studied interpreted Genesis 1:28 as instructing Christians to be “stewards of the Earth”, and 40% of White Euro-American Fundamentalist pastors agreed (along with all African-American participants).

It’s obvious that Republicans are using anti-abortion and gay marriage rhetoric to court Fundamentalists, but their efforts have been purposely ineffectual because they don’t want to lose these as campaign issues - and blaming “activist judges“, even though the Supreme Court is stacked with a Conservative majority. Fundamentalists are beginning to realize this and are becoming increasingly disillusioned with the Republican Party. If we can continue to change the debate to environmental issues, we can SPLIT the Fundamentalist vote! We can turn a significant portion of the Republican base to vote Democratic!

Further, as Gore and Tom Brokaw have both stated in interviews on Dave Letterman, there are several major corporations that have already started to move in environmentally friendly directions. If Democrats support legislation and prosecution that severely fines the largest polluters (which could be a large revenue stream to help counter the deficit) and offers incentives to environmentally friendly corporations, think of the potential campaign contributions we could gain from these major corporations who are already acting!

We should also focus on other main issues such as the Iraq Quagmire and Homeland Security - especially since there are increasingly more reports that we are not safer here at home. Also the increasing deficit, Republican corruption, etc. However, by adding the environmental debate and building on Al Gore’s work Democrats can win a landslide in 2006 and 2008!
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   Dam! I forgot to add Election Fraud as an issue!  johnaries   Jul-01-06 04:38 PM   #1 
   Send him another (so well written) because it does deserve it's own nt  glitch   Jul-01-06 04:54 PM   #8 
   Send it to your paper!  helderheid   Jul-01-06 05:09 PM   #16 
      The Tennessean? It will never get printed.  johnaries   Jul-01-06 05:18 PM   #21 
   I hope he gets his mail and he listens  BareNakedLiberal   Jul-01-06 04:39 PM   #2 
   We have so many issues that...  butterfly77   Jul-01-06 04:41 PM   #3 
   would be good to promote healing the country  MissWaverly   Jul-01-06 04:41 PM   #4 
   I like that idea....  Yoda Yada   Jul-01-06 04:44 PM   #5 
   thanks and Al Gore is the man  MissWaverly   Jul-01-06 04:59 PM   #10 
      I would love to see him run in '08.  johnaries   Jul-01-06 05:20 PM   #22 
   Excellent strategy!  Reckon   Jul-01-06 04:49 PM   #7 
   I must admit I did not expect such enthusiasm  MissWaverly   Jul-01-06 05:01 PM   #11 
      Miss Waverly you are more than welcome to use anything you  johnaries   Jul-01-06 05:11 PM   #17 
         Thanks, I have bookmarked this thread  MissWaverly   Jul-01-06 05:17 PM   #20 
   excellent! nt  glitch   Jul-01-06 04:54 PM   #9 
   thanks  MissWaverly   Jul-01-06 05:03 PM   #13 
      I know, it's just so rich. I think he's telling us not to believe the bush  glitch   Jul-01-06 07:31 PM   #31 
   Excellent point!  johnaries   Jul-01-06 05:02 PM   #12 
      Great, Glad you added that line  MissWaverly   Jul-01-06 05:05 PM   #15 
         Great line! Send a letter! Use it! n/t  johnaries   Jul-01-06 05:14 PM   #19 
   Al Gore - My President!  mhr   Jul-01-06 04:47 PM   #6 
   I totally agree  Reckon   Jul-01-06 05:03 PM   #14 
   it not just that "Neo" reminds me of "Neolithic" = Neocon  MissWaverly   Jul-01-06 05:12 PM   #18 
   johnaries, we should start a Global warming section  Reckon   Jul-01-06 05:35 PM   #23 
   I've added  Reckon   Jul-01-06 06:18 PM   #24 
   Reckon, your link does not work  MissWaverly   Jul-01-06 06:23 PM   #25 
   Thank you! Great idea!  johnaries   Jul-01-06 06:34 PM   #26 
   I have re-written the last part of my letter.  johnaries   Jul-01-06 06:49 PM   #27 
   I don't know why  Reckon   Jul-01-06 06:59 PM   #28 
   Just read the posting instructions - there is an automatic edit-lock  johnaries   Jul-01-06 07:08 PM   #29 
   Added a link to  Reckon   Jul-01-06 07:08 PM   #30 
   I think your edits are good, it seems easier to read now  MissWaverly   Jul-01-06 07:38 PM   #32 
   Anyone know how the movie is doing lately?  dalloway   Jul-01-06 11:31 PM   #33 
   From Rotten Tomatoes  johnaries   Jul-02-06 12:58 AM   #34 
      Pretty impressivei for hardly any advertising either. The DVD will  autorank   Jul-02-06 01:40 AM   #36 
         And the book is #1 on Amazon!  johnaries   Jul-02-06 02:23 AM   #39 
   Great post and analysis...  autorank   Jul-02-06 01:37 AM   #35 
   Thanks, autorank! I've always respected your work  johnaries   Jul-02-06 01:45 AM   #37 
   Sig line is the humbling truth;) "our place" should be welcoming not  autorank   Jul-02-06 05:12 AM   #40 
   Kick  Amonester   Jul-02-06 01:47 AM   #38 
   Good morning kick! n/t  Amonester   Jul-02-06 11:50 AM   #41 
   Eco issues are the new conservatism  sweetheart   Jul-02-06 11:59 AM   #42 
   Afternoon kick  BrklynLiberal   Jul-02-06 03:50 PM   #43 
 
johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 04:38 PM
Response to Original message
1. Dam! I forgot to add Election Fraud as an issue!
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 04:56 PM by johnaries
Kicking myself for forgetting such a HUGE issue!
:spank:

edit: I've changed the last paragraph:

div class="excerpt"]We should also focus on other main issues such as the Iraq Quagmire and Homeland Security - especially since there are increasingly more reports that we are not safer here at home. Also the increasing deficit, Republican corruption, etc. Also extremely important: Election Fraud. Without clean elections, we have no Democracy. However, by adding the environmental debate and building on Al Gore’s work Democrats can win a landslide in 2006 and 2008!


But I don't want to send it to Dean a second time. Who else should I send it to? Kerry? Conyers? Perhaps even (gasp) the DLC? They'd like the corporate campaign contribution section.....
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 04:54 PM
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8. Send him another (so well written) because it does deserve it's own nt
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 05:09 PM
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16. Send it to your paper!
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 05:18 PM
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21. The Tennessean? It will never get printed.
The Nashville Tennessean USED to be a great newspaper - until John Siegenthaler left. Now it's a Reublican Rag. I cancelled my subscription a long time ago.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 04:39 PM
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2. I hope he gets his mail and he listens
we need to change and control the debate instead of always having to defend and manuever.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 04:41 PM
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3. We have so many issues that...
we shouldn't have a problem.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Jul-01-06 04:41 PM
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4. would be good to promote healing the country
Fix a broken planet, fix the Gulf Coast, fix our naton, America has been shattered by greedy,
divisive politicians who marched us off to war based on a lie, it's time for the country to
heal.
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Yoda Yada (474 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 04:44 PM
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5. I like that idea....
...and emphasize the specifics. (Also, that George Bush is a divider...NOT a uniter).
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Jul-01-06 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. thanks and Al Gore is the man
he is just a force for good, he has promoted wise energy policies for most of his life, he
is an experienced politician who can talk with congress. He is the man who could do it.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 05:20 PM
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22. I would love to see him run in '08.
But even if he doesn't, he has already had a huge influence.
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Reckon (729 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 04:49 PM
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7. Excellent strategy!
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Jul-01-06 05:01 PM
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11. I must admit I did not expect such enthusiasm
I was trying to think of a more saavy, Madison Avenue speak way of saying this but it's
what needs done.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 05:11 PM
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17. Miss Waverly you are more than welcome to use anything you
like from my letter and add your own points, as well. As a matter of fact, I recommend that EVERYONE reading this thread write you own letters using anything you like from mine and adding your own. The more letters, the better!

I hit "reply" to an email I received from Dean and came up with this address:

dnc-003cp04dS4@mailer.democrats.org

Now that I look at it, that appears to be an automatic "mailer" address. I probably should have used the democraticparty@democrats.org address.

Come to think of it, I will resend it to that address when I finish revising the letter thanks to everyone's fantastic ideas! Any more ideas for revisions? Who else should I send it to?
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Jul-01-06 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. Thanks, I have bookmarked this thread
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 04:54 PM
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9. excellent! nt
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Jul-01-06 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. thanks
love your conspiracy theory signature line but would like to add:

It's not conspiracy when we do it, GOP speak.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 07:31 PM
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31. I know, it's just so rich. I think he's telling us not to believe the bush
explanation for 9/11.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 05:02 PM
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12. Excellent point!
I've changed the last paragraph again and added this line:

"Of course, we also cannot forget “healing and re-uniting the country” after Bush has proven he is a Divider, not a Uniter."

Why didn't I post this BEFORE I sent it? I should've known I'd get so many great ideas from DU'ers.
:spank:
:hi:

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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Jul-01-06 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Great, Glad you added that line
after all this is the "United" States not the United only for Republicans States
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 05:14 PM
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19. Great line! Send a letter! Use it! n/t
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mhr (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 04:47 PM
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6. Al Gore - My President!
eom
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Reckon (729 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 05:03 PM
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14. I totally agree
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 05:20 PM by Reckon
Environmental issues are the most important issues of our life time. It was a key factor that helped bring the Neo-Cons to power so they could roll back Kyoto and stall the global warming movement. Money, profits and greed are behind the corporate take over of our Gov't.

EDIT: Global warming is a key issue in winning the next elections. We need to seize on the opportunity Al Gore has given us.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Jul-01-06 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #14
18. it not just that "Neo" reminds me of "Neolithic" = Neocon
Neolithic* = designating or of an old World cultural period in the later part of the Stone Age.
Only instead of "stones" insert oil here. There must have been a lot of people fighting over
who had the biggest heaps of stones back then while the world was moving on to an alternative
energy source: fire. Instead of keeping focused on the past, we should be sending our energy
into the future and looking for ways to move forward not backwards. It's time.


*Webster's New World Dictionary
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Reckon (729 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 05:35 PM
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23. johnaries, we should start a Global warming section
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 05:49 PM by Reckon
in the research area of DU so we can list resources like your letter, video, links, etc.

I'm sure plenty of DU'ers will join in and help.

I'll be there, K&R.

Edit: Ok, I've added a Global warming topic under Issues. Here's the link to the edit page:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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Reckon (729 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 06:18 PM
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24. I've added
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 06:38 PM by Reckon
the first two paragraphs of johnaries letter to the Global warming index.

DUers, come on over and give a hand formatting the page.

EDIT: Please feel free to edit anything or add a resource.

Thanks!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

EDIT: fix link.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Jul-01-06 06:23 PM
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25. Reckon, your link does not work
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 06:34 PM
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26. Thank you! Great idea!
But Miss Waverly is right, your link isn't working....
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 06:49 PM
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27. I have re-written the last part of my letter.
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 06:59 PM by johnaries
Special thanks to Miss Waverly and Yoda Yada (because I stole some of your ideas)!

I have bullet-pointed the other issues I think are important to winning the elections and added that because of election fraud we may NEED a land-slide win:

We should also focus on other main issues such as:

> The Iraq Quagmire and bringing our troops home. (a special Thank-you to John Murtha, John Kerry, and Russ Feingold)
> Torture - NEVER acceptable. The Geneva Convention applies whether you call the POW’s or “enemy combatants.”
> Homeland Security - especially since there are increasingly more reports that we are not safer here at home. For one thing, Port Security is STILL an issue!
> Illegal, ineffective NSA spying. Not only is it illegal, it is only creating “red herrings” that is wasting our intelligence man-power. As one expert said, this administration is not connecting the dots it is simply collecting more dots.
> The increasing deficit. Repeal tax cuts for the rich and stress better efficiency in government. Stop the huge Republican “earmark” giveaways!
> Increase the minimum wage and wages overall. This is not only good for the workers, by increasing consumer buying power it is also good for the economy.
> Stop or at least slow down out-sourcing. Get rid of corporate incentives to move off-shore.
Republican corruption. Abramoff, Delay, Valerie Plame’s outing, Sybil Edwards and other whistle-bower protections, etc.
> Health Care. Most Americans want Universal Health Care.
> Also extremely important: Election Fraud. Without clean elections, we have no Democracy. (A special Thank-you to John Conyers)
> Of course, we also cannot forget “healing and re-uniting the country” after Bush has proven he is a Divider, not a Uniter. The “United” States should be more than just a name.

However, by adding the environmental debate and building on Al Gore’s work Democrats can win a landslide in 2006 and 2008! And until Democrats can regain power and do something about Election Fraud, we may NEED a landslide.


Here are the addresses I'm planning on sending it to:

Howard Dean democraticparty@democrats.org
DCCC dccc@dccc.org
John Kerry http://kerry.senate.gov/text/contact/email.html
Russ Feingold http://feingold.senate.gov/contact_opinion.html
John Conyers John.Conyers@mail.house.gov
Harold Ford mailto:haroldford@fordfortennessee.com

Any other "send to" suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I think Reckon's idea is excellent. I encourage anyone so-minded to use any portion of my letter whether copy/paste or paraphrased along with your own ideas/suggestions and send your own letters, especially to any Dems running in your state.

We can make a difference. And we will NEED a landslide to overcome Republican Election Fraud!

edit:
Here is the link to the research topic Reckon started:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

but for some reason it has been edit-locked by madmunchie without any explanation. I think I will pm madmunchie (being respectful, of course) to find out why.
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Reckon (729 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 06:59 PM
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28. I don't know why
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 07:00 PM by Reckon
but the page is gone?

Do you think someone removed it?

edit: It's back, but I don't see any changes.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 07:08 PM
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29. Just read the posting instructions - there is an automatic edit-lock
to keep posters from over-writing each other. According to the instructions it lasts either for 15 minutes or until you post the message (not sure what triggers each). So, it should be available in a few minutes.

Thanks!

:hi:
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Reckon (729 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 07:08 PM
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30. Added a link to
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 07:19 PM by Reckon
Charlie Rose - Al Gore interview.

I'm taking a break so you can edit.

later!

Edit: you might need to re-edit for it to show up.

Thanks!

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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Jul-01-06 07:38 PM
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32. I think your edits are good, it seems easier to read now
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dalloway (744 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-01-06 11:31 PM
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33. Anyone know how the movie is doing lately?
I just saw it last night with my husband, and we were both blown away. I was wondering if audiences were dropping off or if it is still going strong. I live in a very progressive town, and we've had 4-6 showings per day for a few weeks now.

First thing this morning, I changed our electricity to 100% renewables (in NJ we have that option with PSE&G by paying a slight amount more. (for you NJ DU'ers, here is the url: http://www.njcleanpower.com/html/options.html for all the companies--I ended up going with Green Mountain for a variety of reasons)

Tomorrow, I'll email my friends and get them to do the same.

Step-by-step.

The next day, I write to the local paper....

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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-02-06 12:58 AM
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34. From Rotten Tomatoes
BOX OFFICE HISTORY
Week ... Rank ... Wkd. Gross .. Theaters .. Per Theater .. Cumulative
Week #1 ..22 .... $367,311 ........ 4 ...... $91,828 ...... $490,860
Week #2 ..9 ..... $1,356,387 ..... 77 ...... $17,615 ...... $1,937,361
Week #3 ..11 .... $1,504,701 ... 122 ...... $12,334 ...... $3,983,071
Week #4 ..12 .... $1,911,747 ... 403 ...... $4,744 ....... $6,567,780
Week #5 ..14 .... $2,016,408 ... 514 ...... $3,923 ....... $9,630,014
Box office cumulative figures also include daily grosses from Monday through Thursday (not shown).

Pretty impressive for a limited release documentary.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Jul-02-06 01:40 AM
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36. Pretty impressivei for hardly any advertising either. The DVD will
just blow the charts away. This is a natural for that market and the promotion via the internet will be intense.

It's important that Gore is giving 100% of any money made on this film to environmental organizations. He was totally clear on that on Jon Stewart (who blew the most important interview of his life by joking with Gore; regretfully since I love Stewart).
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-02-06 02:23 AM
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39. And the book is #1 on Amazon!
Edited on Sun Jul-02-06 02:31 AM by johnaries
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/new-for-you/top-se...

At least it was when I posted this. It's updated every hour, and I hope it's still #1 in hours to come....

edit to add: #2 in paperback nonfiction on NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/pages/books/bestseller/index.htm...

#8 OVERALL on Barnes and Noble
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/bestsellers/top100.asp



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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Jul-02-06 01:37 AM
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35. Great post and analysis...
Gore's message is that we face ONE SINGLE ISSUE OF OVER RIDING IMPORTANCE--SURVIVAL AS A SPECIES.

In a previous thread on this subject, some astute users pointed out that this is not about the survival
of the planet. The planet will survive. It's about our survival and continuation as a species.

Think about it -- the culture of greed, willing ignorance, willful neglect and stupidity might end the human race, in just decades.

Here's a chilling piece of what might happen. It's a minority view and the scientists suggesting it are clear on that. However, it shows the peril we face, truly chilling...

http://www.alternet.org/envirohealth/26545 /
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-02-06 01:45 AM
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37. Thanks, autorank! I've always respected your work
along with TIA's, so your post means a lot to me.

PS, read my sig line.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Jul-02-06 05:12 AM
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40. Sig line is the humbling truth;) "our place" should be welcoming not
toxic. :hi:
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-02-06 01:47 AM
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38. Kick
Let's keep this thread kicked because: This is important. Very important.

In fact, of all platforms, it's one of the most important platforms for action.

Without enough food, this species, along with all species, is an endangered one.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-02-06 11:50 AM
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41. Good morning kick! n/t
:kick:
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sweetheart (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Jul-02-06 11:59 AM
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42. Eco issues are the new conservatism
To be a recycling ego-green composter is a "conservative value", truth to the word,
and this is a repackaging of centrism, "green egosaving of the planet" as a new conservative
meme to disempower the more intelligent "champion the poor" message that is more critical to
reality and the grassroots.

Love saving the planet, but without serving the poor and disenfranchised, it looks like a
new way to sell big corporatism, just covered in green paint, not reformed, just repackaged.

I hope global warming moves voters. It might move some minds, but its gotta move hearts too.
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43. Afternoon kick
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