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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:54 AM
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Libby is Hurting - New Filings from 06/29/06 ......
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06/29/2006 Libby Motion to Extend Trial Date - 3 pages

06/29/2006 Proposed Motion - 2 pages



looks like he is trying to stall :beer:


his other Motion was granted -- see here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1523421&mesg_id=1526691

06/28/2006 Motion Granted for Libby's Request for Extension - 1 page


All filings here at the DU Research Forum

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x3589

CAN ANYONE GOTO THE DC COURTHOUSE AND GET THIS TRANSCRIPT, IT IS NOT ON THE ELECTRONIC SITE, SO THE FILE MAY ONLY BE AVAILABLE IN A HARD FORMAT

Full docket text for document 115:
TRANSCRIPT of Proceedings as to I. LEWIS LIBBY before Judge Reggie B. Walton held on 6/12/06 Court Reporter: Phyllis Merana. The public may view the document in the Clerk's Office between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m., Monday through Friday. (erd)

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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:56 AM
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1. The object is to stall until after this election and maybe until...
December 2008 when Bush will issue the last minute pardon.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:52 AM
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3. Not at all.
This "delay" is nothing. It is of no significance whatsoever.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:02 AM
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2. This trial was already stalled once
because of defense attorneys' schedules, if I recall correctly. Libby and his attorneys are going to have fun getting more of an extension after the February 2006 date, but that's my opinion. After all, (again, my opinion, and according to every bit of analysis I've read,) he's got nothin'.

Julie
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:55 AM
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5. Right.
This is routine.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:53 AM
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4. Good. I just started reading his novel. I'm hurting, too.
:puke:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:03 PM
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6. I don't (yet) believe the conspiracy theory on this one, that Fitz is in
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 12:05 PM by Peace Patriot
on the Bushite political strategy (if one can call it that--it's more a matter of pre-written narratives for the post-Diebold victory stories, but, still, the narrative is apparently important to them--at least thus far). (When they put the NYT owners/editors in Guantanamo Bay and throw away the key, then we will know we aren't going to be coddled with Bushite narratives any more--they won't bother with them.) (Ahem...)

I think the Plame/Brewster-Jennings investigation is much more complicated than that (a Bushite conspiracy that includes Fitz). I think Fitz is basically a straight-shooter who really wants to prosecute the masterminds of the Plame/BJ outings, but since the perps are the V-P of the US and the Sec of Defense, and since our justice system is shaky at best, he's having a real hard time and they are blockading him in every way they can--starting way back when our Attorney General of the US (torture memo writer/Bush Cartel toady) Alberto Gonzales, when he was White House counsel, gave the White House time to shred documents, destroy hard drives and work on their cover stories. I do think it's a good possibility that "Sealed v. Sealed" is Fitzgerald v. Gonzales. (--and that it has to do with a Gonzales attempt to interfere on a Rove or other indictment (Cheney?)). You see the problem. Obstruction everywhere. In fact, the obstruction goes way back to when they were PLOTTING the Plame/BJ outings (they were concocting cover stories AS they committed the crime--the cover story that "everybody knew" that Plame was a covert agent; the cover story that it was Rovian political revenge). And it goes back even further to the concoction of the "crude" Niger forgeries themselves (I think to draw the CIA out into an overt no-nukes-in-Iraq position, then to trounce them with planted nukes "found" in Iraq after the invasion). But Fitz, being a straightup sort of prosecutor, has the strength but also the liability of believing in our legal system. He thinks he can get the bad guys by sticking to the rules. I dunno. He maybe needs to take a page from Ken Starr and just do a no-holds-barred inquisition, and draw and quarter them in the newspapers. And maybe he will some day. (We all have our breaking points with these goddamned criminals.) Meanwhile, he's trying to make it work (our legal system). He's methodical, relentless, leakless, smart, unassailable in his personal conduct and the conduct of his team--and has got himself a trial that COULD break it all open. He also has a potential Grand Jury report in his back pocket. If all else fails, he can issue findings.

I think that those who suspect him of complicity really don't understand what he is up against. It's kind of like the Democratic leaders whom we, from time to time, suspect of complicity--on the war, or tax breaks for the rich, on Bushite "trade secret" vote counting, or whatever. It's REALLY HARD to tell the difference, sometimes, between actual complicity and the obstruction of rightful power (say, the power the Democrats SHOULD HAVE in Congress, as the reps of AT LEAST half the population, and, on the war--and many other issues--SEVENTY PERCENT of the population). This obstruction can take many forms--for instance, blackmail (from all the spying), or anthrax in the mail (fear), or control of the newsstream, or control of the vote counting, or control of the Capitol police, or denying senior Dem House members a decent hearing room. When the Dem leaders end up babbling to themselves, frozen with fear, unable to think straight any more, unable to find ANY handle on this outrageous crime gang that will hold through a "news cycle" of the war profiteering corporate news monopoly press, we hit 'em when they're down with charges of complicity. It MAY OR MAY NOT be true. As I said, it's hard to tell. Really hard. But we do need to try to distinguish between the complicit and the obstructed. And I'm pretty sure that Fitzgerald falls into the latter category.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:46 PM
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7. One other thought: If things go right for the side of truth, justice and
democracy, we'll have one hell of a fireworks trial happening next year, preliminary to the '08 presidential election. The junta understandably wanted to have a plausible narrative for their retention of power in the Diebold Congress, because they're going need it to prevent any serious (or even half-serious) investigations (that might compliment Fitzgerald's). Thus, they may have sacrificed one of their knights in the chess game (Libby) in order to save the queen (Rove) for LATER sacrifice (when he has to testify about his co-conspirators). I think it's a good guess that Fitz was about to indict Rove on perjury. Gonzales played their castle/rook (a run right at 'im with naked castle power). Fitz fended off the castle (with the stuff he has on Gonzales obstruction), and is now contemplating the lurking moves of queen Rove--his fess-up to perjury and agreement to testify (either as a Libby witness, so Libby can't moot the trial on unfairness, or as a Fitzgerald witness against Libby and perhaps others--possibly on new charges of conspiracy.) So all the fireworks--like Rove nailing Libby and Cheney having to testify--are put off for a year. By then, Cheney may well be convinced (by other means than shotguns) to take splendiferous retirement to his fortified island in the Caribbean (between BushWorld New Orleans and Guantanamo Bay, is it?), but the junta may nevertheless be reduced to Diebolding a War/Corporate Democrat into the White House (to take all the blame). (Plan B.) A lot depends on how quickly the American people wake up to Diebold/ES&S-controlled vote counting, and DO something about it. But the timing of all this is NOT up to Fitzgerald. He's dealing with massive perjury and obstruction, and has to play the chess board as it is. The junta is white. He's black. They made the first move a long time ago, back in 2001, with the meeting in Rome where the Niger forgeries were cooked up (and probably much else).

(It would be interesting to try to design a chess game around democracy--a game in which the cannon fodder and slave labor can muster collective power to claim sovereignty as a people and checkmate the powers of the kings and their minions, in the first move, with, say, a Constitution.)
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