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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:12 AM
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Al Gore is running in '08.
In his most recent interview, a long spot with Jon Stewart on TDS, Gore answered the question about whether or not he will run in '08 the way he ALWAYS does. "I have no plans to run in '08." Not a categorical denial by any stretch in the world of politics. But Stewart didn't challenge that--not like him at all. Almost as if they agreed in advance to let that answer stand.

Al Gore NEVER says no when that question is asked, at least I have not seen it. Saying that he is running for President would undermine the noble crusade he is waging on Climate Crisis, and voters are less defensive and more curious listening to him just talking about the issue than campaigning. His popularity has never been higher, he's lost weight, he's getting tremendous exposure on his movie/book, and he looks at ease in front of the camera. All indications point to his getting in the race.


Will somebody please, please send him a memo on the Lieberman running mate thing?

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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:16 AM
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1. I've sent him three or four memos on how stupid Lieberman was/is..........
.....and suggested he pick Kerry or Feingold.

:grouphug:I want :patriot:Al Gore O8) to run so bad. :grouphug:
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:16 AM
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2. I disagree.
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 06:17 AM by yadayadayada
I don't think he wants to run. I think he is totally involved in trying to save the planet. JMO. I also don't think he's lost weight(not that it matters). He was just wearing black.
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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:37 AM
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14. But as President, he's in a great position to save the planet.
Get us involved in Kyoto, strenthen it in a future conference, that sort of thing.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:49 AM
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17. He's not running. Though I think he'll give it serious thought
but then he'll realize that he's more effective out here, than in the White House being attacked by both the media and the Republicans.
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:30 AM
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3. I disagree also
I think he's found his calling and is happy with it.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:36 AM
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4. A mutual friend says that he absolutely will run in '08.
Depend on it.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:38 AM
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15. "A mutual friend says that he absolutely will run in '08."
Please throw us a few bones.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 08:41 AM
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23. That's the best I can do.
Can't drop names.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 08:51 AM
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24. We weren't looking for names
Maybe you can tell us what you think the strategy or thought

process might be. All hypothetical of course. :)
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:02 AM
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26. I asked the question...
"Do you think Al can be convinced to run in '08?"

And the response was simply;

"YES!!!!"

That's literally all I have.
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Kira Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:47 AM
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16. oh can you please
tell us something else to keep our hopes up that he will run? When do you think he might say it? After the midterms? I want him to run so badly!
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:32 PM
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37. Woo-Hoo! Frankly, I think he's playing it perfectly right now.
If he WAS thinking about it, the absolute Dumbest thing he could do would be to go "Yeah, I'm gonna run" or even "hey, I'm thinking about it"

And Al Gore is no dummy.

:patriot:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:46 AM
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5. He's running. And he'll win (and take office this time). NT
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DeadManInc Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:50 AM
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6. He won the first time!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:52 AM
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7. Yes, that's why I said "and take office this time". NT
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:15 AM
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11. I'm with you all the way, America needs him and he knows it
and he'll not let us down, he'll stay the course and do some serious ass kicking this time around.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:01 AM
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25. great minds think alike
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 09:03 AM by dave29
:) :hi:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 06:58 AM
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8. I Absolutely believe he must and will run. and win
He will not be able to turn away from our imminent
doom
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:06 AM
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9. I firmly believe Al will run in 08...and this time will be different.
Edited on Thu Jun-29-06 07:32 AM by Dunvegan


He's learned how much more popular he is being himself, and he's done that without one handler.

His famous recent "We the People" speech regarding our current constitutional crisis was centered around a firey exhortation to the citizen who must demand loudly what they want and need from government. Anyone who believes its requisite to listen to the voice of the people could and would not back away from a grass-roots "Draft Gore" movement. He said that when "We the People" speak, government MUST listen. That tells me that he'd listen also.

He knows the mistakes one can make first hand. He's very aware of the myriad ways an election can be stolen...he did fight (although many forget) almost up until Bush's January 20th inaguration for the election.

He tried to balance fight with graciousness. He didn't know then that if the Republicans won the Cheney horrorshow would have been so outrageous...911 on the Cheney watch, Katrina on the Cheney watch, expanding war in Iraq on the Cheney watch.

And, most importantly, it's Cheney and Republicans that refuse to address global warning, Cheney that gave oil companies the importance of soverign states and put our armed forces at their disposal for profit, along with burying the Kyoto Accord.


Al is prefectly aware that not only do the Republicans HAVE TO GO for any progress to be made in the fight against global warming...but the Democratic nominee has to be an evangelist for rolling back C02 emmissions, and propose a "New Deal" and concurrent public works project that rivals or surpasses Roosevelt's rescue of America. He knows we far and away use the most oil, create the most pollution, and that the "Buck MUST stop HERE." The president (via his cabinet and programs) is the only one who could be broad-spectrum effective in effecting a strategy to combat global warming.

But he sure knows (and orates to that effect) now.

There is nothing in it for Gore to announce this early...it would be lousy timing, darned premature.

And, he IS dedicated to (this year) championing the cause of reduction of global warming.

It's not like he needs to announce prematurely so as to build public name recognition.

The later, the better for an announcement.

Let him watch how the other candidates are being attacked in early announcements so that he's fully prepared to hit hard against all attacks, against himself and his fellow Democratic candidates.

He's even set up Current TV so that he can depend on at least one non-MSM, non-corporate bought and owned media outlet.

His party handlers sold Gore on Lieberman. Never again.

I believe I also see, reading between the lines, that he'd only run with a candidate of conviction, and now...nothing less. I'm not sure he'd make a back-room deal at the convention to take the "other front-runner" to secure the nomination. I think he's entirely a man of moral conviction at this point.

His running mate will be someone like Clark, Feingold, or perhaps (if he stops playing politics and trying to appeal to all sides) Obama. Gore is no longer a man of compromise.

Smart money says he shouldn't announce until late as a dark horse. He should do that just in time to hit all the states (swing and non-swing large Electorial College block states.)

I'd bet the farm at a sportsbook that it will be Gore in 08.

I believe that before New Hampshire, we'll hear from President Gore...and that he'll announce...and that he'll win.

Now...(referencing Al's "We the People" speech)...it's up to us and on to addressing those voting machines so as to ensure Gore a fair and level playing field for 08.


    "What part of 'lock box' don't you understand?"
      -- Al Gore on Saturday Night Live, 2006


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Splinter Cell Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:11 AM
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10. Let him go.
It's time to get over Al Gore. I don't think he's running, and I believe we could find a better candidate.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:27 PM
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36. Today on The View, Tipper and Prez. Gore were both being
interviewed and it came up about Tipper running for Senate as well as Gore running. She said emphatically, "He's not running" and he agreed with her. They stated that they were both happy in their private lives. They must be doing well if they can give the money for all the book sales as well as movie profits to charity.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:33 PM
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39. Eh.
No.
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:28 PM
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43. Too bad it isn't your guy and never will be
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:32 AM
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12. I Fear His Newfound Popularity Will Peak To Soon
I have no doubt he will run, I have no doubt he will win. What I am concerned about is the timing of his reapearance in the national spotlight. If he had held off a year I believe I would feel a lot better than I do now.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:36 AM
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13. But if he held off a year....
it would look more like a crass attempt to jump back into the national spotlight in order to run for president.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 08:05 AM
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21. Agreed
Well, I have to admit you are dead right on that one. Of course they will say that his movie is a crass attempt anyway, so I'm still a bit inclined to wish he might have held off just a while at least.

Either way, the nation is in for a sea-level chance and Al Gore will be the man to lead the way.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 07:56 AM
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18. Thankfully, he's not running.
He has already shown us that he doesn't have what it takes to win the presidency. If you can't beat the idiot, you can't beat anyone.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 08:00 AM
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19. You seem to forget that he DID beat the idiot
and he will again.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 08:03 AM
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20. Excuse me?
Gore DID win. I think he'll run if he feels the mandate. He's testing the waters. He couldn't wait to bring out his movie and book, global warming is URGENT! If he waited, the repukes would say it was a political ploy to boot.
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Last Stand Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:48 AM
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30. Both Gore and Kerry won, possibly in landslides.
Diebold is undefeated, however.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:33 PM
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38. You AGAIN getting down on Gore in one of these threads? nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 03:34 PM
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40. He DID beat the idiot. Just out of curiousity-
who do you think would make for a better candidate?
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:29 PM
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44. He did beat the idiot, The Supreme Court stopped the counting of
the votes.....Remember?????
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michiganbuckeye1970 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 08:41 AM
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22. If he does run....
There are two things that will help him:

1. Not being able to stop * from taking office has humbled him before the public. Americans love that. They also like the loser making a comeback.

2. People now realize that Clinton was a good president, so Clinton will not weigh him down with the swing voters the way it did last time.

If he wins the nomination, I hope he stays away from current senators as a potential running mate. He needs another quote unquote outsider to run with him....someone that brings something of substance to the table. Do you think Colin Powell feels like he was snake bit by the Repubs...perhaps he needs some redemption.

Powell could say that he feels responsible for getting us into the iraq mess and now has a plan--and a moral responsibility--to get us out.

Who could the Repubs put up to beat Gore/Powell in '08?
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:02 AM
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27. I think he'll run...
And, I can't wait for America's massive realization of what they 'could've had'. Also, I'm still waiting for my chance to finally cast a vote for Al Gore (I showed up to vote for Gore on election day in 2000, only to discover that my name had been purged from the voter rolls :mad:).
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Arkham House Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:06 AM
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28. New, old, none of that matters...
...what does matter is that he is the one American best qualified to be President of the United States. I don't think anyone would dispute this here all that much...he could unite the party around him, he could get votes in the South, at least as many as last time...and if he had Clark as a running mate, and gave him orders to take the gloves off regarding the Chickenhawks--he'd win in a landslide...
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MadJohnShaft Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:08 AM
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29. Run on 'the Environment and Foreign Oil makes us unsafe' stupid
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madmunchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 09:25 PM
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42. That would be good to do
If he can get attention and positive reaction from his crusade, it will put him in a perfect position to run in 08' He can be out there, stressing nonpartisan discussions, gaining access to the public in general and not under the tent of just "politics" gaining across the board credibility. He is presenting himself in a non threatening way and gaining access to the masses in a way that will enable him to be viewed for his message and himself. If this issue takes hold and then takes off, Al Gore will already be positioned to lead. If, in the mean time, he can cross some party lines and capture people by his message and sheer intellect he will win in the General Election.

Unlike Hillary, Al Gore has more Liberals behind him now without being a candidate, than Hillary has acting like a candidate.

I really think that Al Gore is testing the waters for how to best connect with people and how best to have people get used to seeing him without feeling too threatened by the possibility of him running.

The thing is, the more we see the intellect, passion (yes, passion), and able to see what a civil servant really looks like, the more people will subconsciously realize what they could have had if a thief didn't steal the Presidency in 2000.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:50 AM
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31. He may decide depending on the outcome of the fall elections n/t
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 11:59 AM
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32. We'll see it doesn't make any sense speculating until he actually
declares or makes some truly positive moves to indicate he is actually running.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:00 PM
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33. Al Gore: The Reconstruction President.
I really believe that he is the person that can bring our country together again. Just think about the dark night of the soul that he had to endure during the 2000 nightmare. He has emerged a better, stronger man who knows who he is. That is the person we need to run this country. He is a person that has suffered with us and is ready to take on the huge mess that the bushies have wrought. I hope he runs. We really need him. :patriot: After all that he has been through, I think he won't take any shite from anyone.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:02 PM
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34. He is taking a bi-partisan approach to global warming.
That is reason enough for him not to run in 08'. He does not want to poloarize the issue more than it already is. He has said he wants both the Republican and Democratic nominee to take the issue seriously.

Running in 08' would be counter-productive to Gore's work and goals. I can't imagine any reason why he would change his mind and run.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 12:06 PM
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35. Sorry, but it needs to be said....
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 08:57 PM
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41. Al's in. HClinton needs to worry about it. So do Republicans.
But he does have a crowded, gifted field of Dems to fend off before he gets the nomination.

Al and Holy Joe are no longer an item. Lieberman was a non-BClinton kind of veep choice and helped a lot in three of Florida's most heavily Democratic districts. A case could be made that Al got that turn-out in Florida -- before Bush stole it I mean -- in part because Lieberman was very popular in Palm Beach County.

I believe if he ran again Al Gore would definitely not choose Lieberman, even if Joe wins his senate seat again, and especially if Joe lost, which is an increasing possibility.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:33 PM
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45. Al Gore is my number one choice -- just a few remarks
He may have hailed from Tennessee but he truly is a master of the inside-the-Beltway mentality. The number one rule of thumb is "never let them know what you are thinking" and no one does that better than Al.

If he were running, he would absolutely not announce that before the mid-terms. The party would kill him for distracting from that.

Inside the beltway, don't listen to the words, look at the signs. Dean is sitting in the party chairman's seat of the Democratic party. Dean is a strong Gore ally, not a Hillary Clinton proponent. If Gore were to win, he definitely would not want the embarrassment of having Tennessee stolen from him again by the Republicans. Look at who is running for Gore's former Senate seat -- Harold Ford, a Gore family friend and ally. In other words, look at how the pieces are being put into place.

If the strategy of Gore wading back into public view under cover of wanting to save the earth is not a political strategy, it should be -- because it is simply brilliant. Gore merely reappearing without this cover will result in the collective public eye seeing him reemerging on the political scene with the old "sore loser" aura hanging over him. In this way, he wades back into the political waters simply as the man who is here to save the world -- NOT the loser of the 2000 election.

His comfort level at talking to the American people under cover of his environmental mantra is an excellent method of allowing the public to see who he truly is, not seeing him as the image the Republicans painted him as having.

I think it goes without saying we would not have seen Bush* step out and say "I have always said global warming was a threat" and we would not have seen Kerry promptly issue his own environmental recommendations so quickly on the re-emergence of Al Gore if there was not a perception that he's back in the political arena.

While a final decision has not been made, I believe the indicators are all in place that Gore is positioning himself to run should that be his final decision. His words about being happy in his private life I believe are very true. There's probably not been a time in his adult life when he's been happier, and freer than he is now. However, one cannot ignore the fact that Gore is a statesman who loves this country above his own personal happiness, and I am sure he would not want his grandchildren to grow up in a United States severely damaged to the extent it is now. I am sure that he is confident he has the experience and tools in his toolbag to restore this Country to its former magnificence. This he would want to do not for himself or for you or for me, but for the generations to come. That's why Al Gore would run.

I have hope, but regardless of what he decides, I will support his decision. At this point, I am not sure Al Gore would allow even his alter ego to know if he's running or not, because allowing that decision to surface to a conscious level would wreck the comfortable skin he now is in in the public eye. The candidate Gore would not be the same as the environmental Gore, and the latter is the man the public is now loving (not the guy who really detests campaigning). Regardless of the literal truth, do not pretend that Al Gore would allow any of us to know what he is thinking at this point because that is simply not the way the game is played. And Al Gore knows how to play....
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:35 PM
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46. He will run, and he will win.
Join me in this mantra. Now.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:41 PM
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47. Al Gore will run for President in 2008 and he will win by a landslide
... IF the current voting machines are junked, and new ones set up with a verifyable paper receipt.

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