Norquist linked to terrorist funding!

[happydreams]

.....Last month, Frank J. Gaffney Jr., formerly a senior official with the Reagan Defense Department and currently president of the Center for Security Policy in Washington, wrote a scathing indictment of Norquist's relationship with controversial Islamists, including Alamoudi who is currently in jail on suspicion of being a senior terrorist operator.

" is the guy that was hired by Alamoudi to head up the Islamic Institute, and he's the registered agent for Alamoudi, personally, and for the Islamic Institute," Loftus said.

Norquist's Islamic Institute had the stated purpose of cultivate Muslim-Americans and Arab-Americans whose attachment to conservative family values and capitalism made them potential allies for the Republican Party in advance of the 2000 presidential election.

As Gaffney's article recounts, the Islamic Institute was initially financed by Alamoudi, a supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah, who told the Annual Convention of the Islamic Association of Palestine in 1996, "If we are outside this country we can say 'Oh, Allah destroy America.' But once we are here, our mission in this country is to change it."....






http://www.john-loftus.com/wndquote_010504.asp

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

1. As long as their money keeps his boys in office, Grover couldn't care

less what these guys believe...

[Skidmore]

2. Norquist and Rove make Ollie North look like an amateur and

Benedict Arnold look like a prankster. These two treasonous SOBs should be locked up and the key melted down in to a lump.

[Cocoa]

3. crappy sources

John Loftus, WorldNetDaily and Frank Gaffney.

Yeah, Grover Norquist sucks, but this is pure garbage.

[DoYouEverWonder]

5. The story comes from the So Fl Sun Sentinel

Nothing wrong with the source, just the host.

[Cocoa]

6. this is not from the South Florida Sun Sentinel

why are you saying it is?

[DoYouEverWonder]

7. My mistake - I misread the by-line

Sherrie Gossett, a researcher and writer formerly with the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, is a contributing reporter for WND. Her original news stories have been widely cited by the press, including the Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Boston Herald, Agence France-Presse, Chicago Sun-Times, National Review, Washington Times, Times of London, Boston Phoenix, Annenberg Online Journalism Review and Fox News.

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[DoYouEverWonder]

8. What I don't get

is what does John Loftus have against Norquist?

[Cocoa]

9. good question

there appears to be a fascinating rift between two equally repugnant factions within the Right Wing, going back three years.

My guess, it's over money. The Norquist faction and the Gaffney faction are battling over some source of cash somewhere.

http://www.hillnews.com/open_secrets/022603.aspx

FEBRUARY 26, 2003

Norquist-Gaffney feud leads to exile

The ongoing spat between tax reformer Grover Norquist and defense expert Frank Gaffney may have reached the point of no return. In the latest escalation, Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, informed Gaffney he was no longer welcome at meetings of his weekly discussion group.

The reason, said Norquist, is the disparaging remarks he claims Gaffney made about Muslims at a convention of the Conservative Political Action Committee last month. Gaffney, president of the Center for Security Policy, accused Norquist and the Islamic Institute, which Norquist founded, of helping Muslim radicals gain access to the White House and Congress.

“ There is no room for bigotry in the movement,” said Norquist this week, his voice cracking with emotion. He added that Gaffney had often been “rude to Muslims and made faces at them” during meetings of his 115-member Wednesday Group.

In a letter to Gaffney, Norquist said his expulsion would last until he makes a public apology that’s accepted by all parties, including President Bush.

more...

[happydreams]

10. Loftus is not reputable?

[Gabi Hayes]

14. he's all over the place.....my guess is he's disinfo from the junta

never seen any real corroboration for anything he asserts, even though I'd like to believe a lot of it, including work on Bush family Nazi connections that go WAY beyond Vesting Order #247 (248?)

[Cocoa]

20. that's a good guess

there's a class of disinfo that is designed to appeal to the left. Conspiracy stuff.

Loftus has a regular gig at Fox News, and the sources that like his stuff the most seem to be RW rags like WorldNetDaily.

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. Edit title - old story / written in 2004

Is this the one that will blow this crap open?

The last few weeks BushCo & the M$M having been spinning faster then whirling dervishes. They've pulled out all the stops from catching to Zarqawi, to sending Bush to Iraq, to even claiming the Plame investigation was over.

In the meantime, Norquist is directly linked to Abramoff, who we know is singing like a canary. This reopens the door to who is behind funding terrorism and al CAIda, good ol' Grover. Should be an interesting week.

[happydreams]

11. Here is another link to Norquist and terror money: St. Pete Times

...Those in Norquist's favor sit at the conference table in the middle of the room. The others stand, packed shoulder-to-shoulder. Among those with a regular seat at the table, participants say, is the Islamic Institute's Saffuri.

Norquist and Saffuri founded the Islamic Institute in 1999 with seed money from Qatar, Kuwait and other Middle Eastern sources. Among the contributors, records show, was Saffuri's former boss, a Muslim charity director and founder of the American Muslim Council, Abdurahman Alamoudi.

The records show Alamoudi gave at least $35,000 to the institute, although Alamoudi said in a written statement he did "not recollect having been quite that generous."

Also funding the institute were two Virginia-based nonprofit organizations. The Safa Trust donated at least $35,000, and the International Institute of Islamic Thought gave $11,000, the records show...../


http://www.sptimes.com/2003/03/11/news_pf/Floridian/Fri...

[Cocoa]

12. link is broken

[happydreams]

13. Here you go

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/03/11/news_pf/Floridian/Friends_in_high_place.shtml

[Cocoa]

16. it is Gaffney again

it is not additional information, it is reporting on the widely reported rift within the right wing over links to Muslim organizations.

[happydreams]

17. Your welcome

Your point?

"pure garbage"....but well documented?
:eyes:


PS. I'm out of time, will be back tomorrow.

[Cocoa]

19. it's guilt by association

the neocons want to make donating to Muslim organizations equivalent to supporting terrorism.

We have to be rigorous in our thinking, not sloppily throwing around broken links and half-baked accusations and links to Frontpagerag and instructions to "Google" this or that.

That's what the Skull and Bones-obsessed trolls do.

[happydreams]

22. You've got a point.

and an interesting one. But I would argue that there are some Republicans, I don't know if Gaffney is one of them, who are truly opposed to what they perceive to be is a Muslim or Islamic terrorist threat and will expose "their own" if neccessary to deal with the matter. They may be, as you suggest, part of a neo-con attempt to disenfranchise Muslims. I haven't heard that angle before

I'm going to go into my files and dig up some stuff on Norquist from years ago.

I'm not sure why you opposed to google searches for those who want to look further. :shrug:

[happydreams]

15. And another link

http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-news/1566892/posts


Google: Norquist+Islamic+charities

[Cocoa]

18. Gaffney again

the apparently credible article in the original post of that Free Republic thread contains no mention of Norquist.

The mention of Norquist comes in a post further down the thread, which links to an article by guess who? Frank Gaffney.

[Terran1212]

21. Muslim Republicans -- the ultimate masochists

As they are more well-referred to as.

[happydreams]

23. Operation Green Quest

FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT has kicked over quite an anthill in Northern Virginia. A U.S. Treasury task force, Operation Green Quest, has been investigating the funding of Islamic terror. Raids on March 20 struck an extraordinary array of financial, charitable, and ostensibly religious entities identified with Muslim and Arab concerns in this country, most of them headquartered in Northern Virginia.

Reaction to the raids suggests the Feds inflicted serious injury on the Wahhabi lobby, the Saudi-backed extremist network that largely controls Islam in America. Officials of the targeted groups as well as their non-Muslim apologists--notably GOP operative Grover Norquist, the chief enabler of Islamic extremists seeking access to the White House--have condemned the raids as civil rights violations.

......The keystone of the Saudi-sponsored Northern Virginia network is the Saar Foundation, created by Suleiman Abdul Al-Aziz al-Rajhi, a scion of one of the richest Saudi families. The Saar Foundation is connected to Al-Taqwa, a shell company formerly based in Switzerland, where its leading figures included a notorious neo-Nazi and Islamist, Ahmed Huber. Subsequently moved to the United States, Al-Taqwa was shut down after September 11 and its assets frozen by U.S. presidential order. But operations continued, as the Wahhabi lobby shifted to its backup institutions here.

Saar has also been linked to Khalid bin Mahfouz, former lead financial adviser to the Saudi royal family and ex-head of the National Commercial Bank of Saudi Arabia. Mahfouz has been named by French intelligence as a backer of Osama bin Laden; Mahfouz endowed the Muwafaq Foundation, which U.S. authorities confirm was an arm of bin Laden's terror organization. Muwafaq's former chief, Yassin al-Qadi, oversaw the financial penetration of Bosnia-Herzegovina and Albania by Wahhabi terrorists in the late 1990s......

http://www.angelfire.com/al4/terror/article16.htm


Personally I think that the money is controlled by the CIA--Saudi elite nexus and that there may be elements within the Intelligence Community who are trying to go after what they percieve to be the enemy. These "loose cannons" (Colleen Rowley to name one) must be pacified.