Does this look like "Progress"?

[benburch]

[Viva_La_Revolution]

1. "steady as she goes" "stay the course" "don't change horses..."

"BRING IT ON" Yelled the Awol Chimp

:mad:

:cry:

[Cronus Protagonist]

17. More signs of progress...

[snappyturtle]

2. K&R Good lord how are they going to.....

spin this? Thanks.

[Name removed]

3. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[ariellyn]

4. Iraq is not a war. nt

[Name removed]

6. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[NMMNG]

8. You know

It's not a war because the powers that be have not formally declared war. Therefore it's only a "conflict". Even if they kill every last Iraqi it will only be a "conflict". I'm sure that semantic game playing makes them sleep better at night. :sarcasm:

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. It is not a war

because we are Occupying Power. We own the place and it is the responsiblity of the Occupying Power to provide for the safety and security of the people under our power. We have done neither.

[timtom]

12. Call me a sentimental old fool if you will...

but I derive the war status from the Constitution of the United States of America. As it turns out, World War II was the last example of that legitimatization.

Kennedy was assassinated before he could get us the hell out of Vietnam entanglement (remember Washington's farewell address..."avoid entangling alliances"?)

So you seriously need to re-evaluate the parameters of your understanding of the way of the world.

[Name removed]

5. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Name removed]

7. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[benburch]

9. The owner of the board...

...where you no doubt hang out. Adios!

[madokie]

11. ask the snowman, its only 2500 out of 300 or so million, just a number

but no it is not progress, progress is measured in dialog not killing.

[benburch]

13. Exactly.

But the ONLY progress we will ever see in Iraq is the progress of that number.

[im10ashus]

14. That just breaks my heart.

That this administration is still in power is a testament to the laziness of our society as a whole. Thanks for posting, Ben!

K&R! Statistics don't lie.

[lpbk2713]

15. Sure as hell doesn't look like "Mission Accomplished" either.

This clown is the most useless bullshit artist there ever was.

[gordianot]

16. On the other hand maybe it is "mission accomplished"

This situation is what they had in mind all along. I now think the real mission was to not only disrupt the Middle East but change fundamentally everything including the late great American Democracy/Republic.



see link: http://nord.twu.net/acl/dialectic.html#two

Hegel took logic to the next logical level, in what many consider to be a higher intellectual level, claiming an (A) ideology conflicting with its (B) opposite ideology = (C) a new and sometimes better philosophy. Hegel's dialectic pits A against B in a constant conflict and resolution, which eventually creates C... an outcome that may or may not have any resemblance to A and B. According to modern social scientists, C does not have to be a reasonable conclusion, since Hegel's logical dialectic takes pure reason out of the reasoning. If you don't get it, that means you got it, because anything arrived at using Hegel's "logic" doesn't have to make any sense.