Why do people have to imply Coulter is a man or transgender?

[booley]

Gods and Goddesses know Coulter is a vile wretch who sincerely shakes my belief that all humans have a capacity for good (shakes, doesn't undermine) But what's with all of this Mann Coulter and Trans Coulter BS?

What's that expression..calling someone a louse is an insult to louses?

Well actual transgender people aren't even louses. I'm not a trannie myself but it's really it really getting on my nerves. Calling Coulter a drag queen or a trannie is an insult to drag queens and trannies and not just because it's Coulter. You are basic ly saying that there's something wrong with trannies when you do this. and we are better then that.

This isn't' to say you can't still insult Coulter and other Republicans. Gods know they deserve it. (I refer to the pResident only as Shrub. And Ashcroft will always be ASScroft to me) But can't we find a way to do it without stigmatizing an entire group of innocent people who haven't harmed anyone?

Coulter and her supporters have the kind of ugly that reaches down into thier soul. That has nothing to do with what gender she is or seems to be.

[rosesaylavee]

1. Similar to the junior high's set currently favorite diss line -

that's so GAY.

I agree. Time to just call her an idiot and be done with it.

[terrya]

2. Amen. Thank you.

I am particularly irked when I see this. To use being transgendered as some sort of insult is disgusting, IMO. Lord knows, there are more than enough things to criticize Ann Coulter about. We don't need to resort to this.

[DainBramaged]

11. BECAUSE THE REICH-WING IS ANTI-GAY/TRANSGENDER

Hypocrisy at it's worst. She is a farce, just like the Conservative movement.

[booley]

20. haven't you noticed?

Haven't younoticed that the "reich -Wing" is psychologically INCAPABLE of acknowledging thier own hyppocrasy? Much less getting anything subtle.

So calling Coulter a man or a tran doesn't make them see thier own homophobia. It only makes them beleive that the LEFT doesn't like transgender people either and that WE'RE the hyppocrits.

[Toucano]

53. Exactly. n/t

[DainBramaged]

3. I have never met a woman with an Adam's apple period end of discussion

And she refuses to deny or admit it.

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[DainBramaged]

15. My daughter is 6' 125 lbs.

She doesn't have a throat like that. Give me a break.

[nickinSTL]

21. I didn't say ALL thin women do...

and I didn't intend that. SOME thin women DO...and they're not all trannys.

AND IT IS NOT AN ADAM'S APPLE.

Not to mention, a tranny with Coulter's money...would have had an Adam's apple shaved...it's called a "trach shave".

[DainBramaged]

33. If Coulter shaved it, people WOULD notice, hence the guessing game

[Susang]

23. It's her fucking thyroid.

There's nothing for her to confirm or deny. Seems odd people are so fixated on it.

[Synnical]

26. Sandra Bullock has one

It's quite evident here:

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[Synnical]

28. Meg Ryan

[DainBramaged]

34. Neither of them are Reuch-wing nutjobs and Coulter's is placed HIGHER

[Synnical]

40. Oh, just stop

Ann is what Ann is, stop saying she's a man.

You disgust me.

[fishwax]

66. always interesting to see people confronted with the inadequacy of their

argument. Some admit they are wrong, and move on. Some simply shut up. Others pretend their argument wasn't completely shut down, and carry on as if nothing happened.

Shouldn't you edit your earlier post to read "I've never met a reuch=wing nutjob who had an adam's apple that's placed so high end of discussion/and she refuses to deny or admit it"?

[titoresque]

36. She's bulimic

the adams apple swells like this when you continually puke. I know.
I'm better now, and without the adams apple, but at one time in my life I had it too.
Also starving yourself makes your hair dry and causes a person to act crazy.
She's got all the signature signs of bulimia.

[Toucano]

45. Yes you have.

"The larynx grows during puberty in males more than in females, and as a result the Adam's apple is typically more prominent in men than in women or prepubescent girls or boys. This growth of the larynx is also the reason for the voice cracking in teenage boys. Another reason for the Adam's apple being more prominent in males is that the two laminae of the cartilage meet at an angle of 90° in males but that angle is 120° in females.

Although a prominent Adam's apple is commonly considered a secondary sex characteristic, women with noticeable Adam's apples are by no means extremely rare. Examples of well-known women with prominent Adam's apples include Sandra Bullock, Meg Ryan, and Francesca Neri."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adams_Apple

You no longer have ignorance as an excuse for your absurd opinion.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

60. Whatever. Some biological women have prominent Adam's apples

whether you choose to believe it or not. Implying that Coulter is trans as a bad thing is transphobic. I don't give a shit what she was born as. She's a lying, crazy, nutbag and her biological sex has nothing to do with that. Okay? The focus on it is absurd.

Guess what? Even if she was biologically male (or intersexed), I would still refer to her as she (when I'm not calling her a crazy bitch that is) because that is how she presents her gender identity.

Go after people for WHO they are, not WHAT they are.

[AndyA]

4. I always thought it was because neither sex wanted to admit something

so vile could be a part of their sex. The women don't want her, the men don't want her.

She's non-human.

Even the aliens have reported that they aren't sending the Mother Ship back to pick her up, they don't want her either!

[DainBramaged]

7. Perfectly stated, Bravo

[nickinSTL]

14. yes, but trannys don't want her,either

n/t

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

59. Oh but trannys don't count remember?

They don't have feelings.

:sarcasm:

This shit with Coulter disgusts me and I wish DU would just put an end to all this shit calling her a tranny once and for all.

[Synnical]

30. Speaking of aliens - Toon

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. I might be tempted to say she resembled a crack whore,

however, it would be grossly unfair to those who are actually crack whores, so I know what you mean.

[Theres-a]

6. Why do we have to talk about her at ALL?

My hide thread button is getting worn out.She's just not important,and it is sad to see how many threads there are about her.Nothing against you of course,because I aagree completely with you.Who cares what sex she is/was/whatever?Because it would make her a hypocrite?There are countless more relevant hypocrites to start threads about,really.

[DainBramaged]

8. Don't blame us, we aren't defending the bitch

[VelmaD]

29. nice gratuitous use of a gender slur

:eyes:

[DainBramaged]

35. Sorry, far from it, her picture is in the dictionary next to the word

[Strong Atheist]

10. Agreed. nt.

[movonne]

12. Please stop these stupid coulter threads...

[sui generis]

13. yes but

it is "her" hypocrisy and dishonesty that is being criticized not gender. I'm surprised that anyone could confuse the two.

Who cares.

The valid argument you should be making is the rest of the world reads DU and google caches these pages, and anyone could make the argument that we are delivering ad hominem attacks instead of attacks with intellectual merit, and that is what is being saved for posterity on the subject of Ann Coulter. If we care about DU we should stop making ad hominem "bush is a monkey" and "ann is a man" attacks altogether, except in the Lounge (sorry fellow lounge lizards, not intended as a slam).

[endarkenment]

16. Partly because the right tries to insist that she has sex appeal

and they are massively homophobic, which to them would include the transgendered community, so a rumor as to her birth gender might actually cause a bit of upset over on the right, a little of that cognitive dissonance. Why did the right insist that Kerry was 'french looking'? Somehow, as ridiculous as that claim was, it helped in the campaign to destroy Senator Kerry's public image.

I agree however that it is stupid and that we should attack the idiot on her many real misdeeds rather than whatever her birth gender might be.

[ottomattic]

42. Partly because.....

Posted by endarkenment
"Partly because the right tries to insist that she has sex appeal"

I guess DU is the only place on earth where they didn't get the memo that Some men, Quite a few actually, find tall thin women with blonde hair attractive.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

61. Well, this woman finds tall, thin women with blonde hair attractive.

However, they must not be evil inside. So Coulter is not attractive. There are plenty of classier, prettier liberal women out there.

[genie_weenie]

17. Because, if one disagrees with a "person"

like Coulter, one must demonstrate that she is not only intellectually wrong, but also morally repugnant, ethically challenged and a member of an untouchable caste. The offending person must be "wrong" in as many ways as possible. Same thing with Katherine Harris.

This is a staple in old WWII movies, cheap action flicks (think JC Van Damme enemies) and in low brow humor films were the villian must be humilated as well as defeated in the end.

[jonnyblitz]

18. a few here at DU are so clueless to this that when I have pointed

it out they thought I was criticizing them for criticizing Coulter and proceeded to give me this rant about why Coulter is evil or vile and the whole point of me pointing out their transphobic comments went right over their dim fucking heads. in other words they think I am sticking up for Coulter when I am pointing out their offensive comments. Apparently many don't mind dissing our trans DUers.

[Jigarotta]

32. It took me some time to realise what you said.

and I am in agreement, now. Because I am willing to learn and glad I still can.
and this was a good lesson for me about not how people look, act, be, or are gender wise, it's just about what their words mean. nothing else. just words. communication. no fashion, no adams apples, no scary eyes.

coulter really has nothing to offer, so I wonder why she has been made such an idol here.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

19. I know women. I am a woman. Women are my friends.

She, sir, is no woman.

[Toucano]

47. If she's a transgendered person, she is a woman.

Does someone really have to explain to you why your statement is so offensive?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

62. Oh please, not all women are your friends.

What is this first grade? You don't like her, so she's not a woman?

[tinfoilinfor2005]

70. Actually, I was doing a little take off of Lloyd Bentsen aimed at Coulter:

During the 1988 vice presidential debate - in reply to Sen. Dan Quayle, who compared himself to President John Kennedy -- Bentsen commented, "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you are no Jack Kennedy."

Of course I meant to offend her, because all of the women I know, unlike Ms. Coulter, possess a soul.

[Jigarotta]

22. best coulter thread I've read yet, thanks.

I hide most of them but this one has merit.

I get squishy uncomfortable with the descriptions of her 'manhood' (why is it such a disgrace or insult to be called the other gender, I don't get it) and adams apple and anorexia and mental illness, etc., as well. At first I thought it was mildly amusing, until I actually Thought about it.

[Marnieworld]

24. Right on

It's hateful and juvenile and accomplishes nothing. Who cares? She needs to be ignored. People must stop feeding the beast.

[ContraBass Black]

25. "Man, that's so gay!"

Is a similar expression.

[Toucano]

51. Similarly offensive you mean? n/t

[ContraBass Black]

55. Yes.

I haven't heard it recently, though. I wonder if it's falling out of use.

[IsIt1984Yet]

27. I agree. It's offensive and ridiculous.

[Avalux]

31. I agree. Call her what she really is.

An incredibly sick woman (mentally and physically), who derives pleasure from attacking and insulting other people. In the scheme of things, she will come back in her next life as a gnat.

[DainBramaged]

38. She'll be a rock in a public toilet in China, her just rewards

And if you think I am uncaring or unknowing about our transgender friends friends here on DU, Coulter is not deserving of anything complimentary and vitriol slung her way is deserved. You all however need to put her/it in a special place and realize the damage she does with her diatribe.

[Kingofalldems]

37. I don't know about the transgender thing but

she seems to hate women. She even said once that women should not be allowed to vote.

[blondeatlast]

39. I couldn't agree more. She is so vile that there's no need to disrespect

an entire group just for her.

DU--let's do better, please?

[UTUSN]

41. Because COOLTER is VICIOUS & UNSCRUPULOUS????? 11 n/t

[Zhade]

43. Uh, so you think transpeople are "VICIOUS & UNSCRUPULOUS"?

NT!

[ottomattic]

44. Let me get this straight...

When the original poster asked why we need to call names like transexual you responded

posted by UTUSN
"Because COOLTER is VICIOUS & UNSCRUPULOUS?????"

And Naturally you would refer to her as a transvestite or transexual because all transvestites and transexuals are Vicious and Unscrupulous?

[LoZoccolo]

48. I don't think that was it.

Wasn't my post, but there's another option available.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

63. Professional troll?

:shrug:

[LoZoccolo]

65. I think the implication is that only men can be that vicious.

One of those "sexist but it's OK because it's against men" things.

[Cleita]

46. I dunno.

But maybe it has something to do with hypocrisy. Since she won't admit that she whore's for the RW for money, stones do tend to be thrown.

It's like when BushCo are accused of being gay. No one cares that they are gay except that they pretend not to be when there is some evidence that there is homoerotic stuff being played out in this administration.

[cigsandcoffee]

49. There are more thoughtful ways to oppose her.

Such as pointing out the things she says and refuting them with facts. That's not only more thoughtful, but also more convincing than criticising a person's appearance.

[Duncan Grant]

50. Because some DUers are ignorant, while others are ignorant *and* hostile.

Great thread, booley. Check out my journal for a glimpse of my efforts on this topic... :hi:

[Toucano]

52. Her Secret: She's a mackerel-snapping, potato-eating Mic.

Her "work" is the product of whiskey-induced hallucinations.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

64. Hey, I'm a proud Mick!

It was even my dad's nickname. She's no mick.

[Toucano]

69. Sure she is.

It's not offensive at all to assault her heritige. I mean, she's so vile, right?

[Imagevision]

54. umm... her obvious adams apple doesn't help 2b sure!

[Toucano]

57. Could you please lay off that tired fallacy?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1435405&mesg_id=1447531

All secondary sex characteristics are present in varying degrees in both males and females.

[RagAss]

56. She's an average looking lady ....with a fucked up brain..

how's that ?

[Djinn]

58. Bingo

I'd add that calling her (or the Bush twins etc) a slut/whore/bitch also says more about the caller than anything else.

Coulter is an idealogue screaming all the way to the bank, that is all.

[Bucky]

67. Okay, Mr Smarty Pants. Which minority group should we insult, then?

If we can't insult her by suggesting she's part of that oppressed Democratic constituency group, which group do you think we should compare her to? I'll give you some options...

Ann Coulter is Jewish!

Ann Coulter is an environmentalist!

Ann Coulter is a civil rights activist!

Ann Coulter is a handicapped war veteran!

Ann Coulter is an elitist East Coast big media journalist!

Obviously non of these insults work. So as you can see, our only viable option is to suggest she's transgender and then have a good yuck in the knowledge that that is the best way to destroy her, by engaging in adolescent insults. Unless, of course, you're one of those PC ozone huggers who thinks as Democrats we should strive to treat all people with dignity and respect.

[upi402]

68. cuz SHE'S A MAN BABY!!!

humor. don't worry, Anne doesn't get it...

[Joey Liberal]

71. Check out her man sized adams apple

She's not only evil, she's a dude.

[mwb970]

72. She just looks masculine to me.

It's not just the Adam's apple, forget that. Look at her carefully (I know, yuk). Look in her eyes. What I see is unquestionably masculinity.

I noticed it the very first time I saw her, when I had no idea who she even was. My very first thought was "My God, this is a man in a dress." I cannot see her as attractive in any way.

I have no need to insult "trannies" so I don't call her that. It's just that she looks like a man rather than a woman to me.