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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:36 AM
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So I Saw In British News That There Is A Continent Called Africa.
I looked on a map and sure enough there it was to the east over the water but, not quite as far northeast as where we steal our oil, fight wars and generally restore chaos whenever it dies down. Apparently there are millions of people living in the place. From what I saw, there seen to be some problems over there. Poverty is rampant, warfare and even genocide daily events and AIDS is killing people there by the millions.

I just thought I'd mention it as I never hear about this strange land on the American news. I have heard nothing about the problems there or what we plan to do to help from ANY politician.

Has anyone else heard of the place or are these Brits just out of their freaking minds?

Maybe I'm being duped. Can anyone confirm this info???

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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:38 AM
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1. Also,
global warming is wreaking environmental havoc in some African regions, including Niger and Darfur.
Al Gore showed this clearly in his great film An Inconvenient Truth.
It's bad over there, folx.

Sue
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:40 AM
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2. Africa has been assigned as Europe's back-yard
So it's not really much of a concern for Americans.



From a debate between Noam Chomsky and Richard Perle at The Ohio State University in 1988 http://www.radio4all.net/proginfo.php?id=8409

"Official doctrine is quite inconsistent with the historical and documentary record. (Official doctrine) conforms to the pattern of evolving events, and is entirely inconsistent with widely proclaimed doctrine." - Noam Chomsky

Quotes from declassified State Department documents from 1948:

On the 3rd World:

"...a source of raw material and markets for the industrialist capitalist powers, to be exploited for their reconstruction"...

On Latin America:

"Prime concern is the protection of our raw materials. We have 50% of the worlds wealth but only 6% of its population, we must maintain this disparity to the extent possible, by force if necessary, putting aside vague and idealistic slogans such as human rights, raising of living standards, democratization, preferring police states if needed over democracies that might be to liberal and to indulgent to communists, the latter has lost any substantial meaning in US political rhetoric, referring simply to anyone who stands in our way."

"The primary threat to the US in Latin America is the trend towards nationalistic regimes that respond to popular demand for improvement in low living standards and production for domestic needs. That's not acceptable because the US is committed to encouraging a climate inductive to private investment, in particular guaranties for opportunity to earn and in the case of foreign capital to repatriate a reasonable return."

"We must therefore oppose what is regularly called ultra nationalism in secret documents, that means efforts to pursue domestic needs. We must foster exports or (...) production in the interests of US investors. It is recognized such programs have very little appeal to the Latin American public. So the conclusion is that we must therefore gain control over the military which can in turn control domestic opposition and overthrow civilian governments if necessary."

"One learns a lot from looking at the documentary record, and one learns a lot from the fact that certain people don't want you to look at it." - Noam Chomsky

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"There is a declassified State Department paper from 1948 that outlines what the US intended to do with various regions of the world after World War II. The US decided to take the Middle East and Asia. When it came to Africa, the document essentially says that we're not so interested in Africa, so we'll give it to the Europeans to "exploit"-that's the word used-for their reconstruction." - Chomsky
http://www.madre.org/articles/chomsky-0801.html

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I. Fundamental Principles: Straight Power Concepts

The fundamental aims of Western foreign policy under American leadership, were stated in a now declassified top-secret planning report produced by the US State Departments policy planning staff, headed at the time (February 1948) by the liberal George Kennan: "We have about 50 per cent of the worlds wealth, but only 6.3 per cent of its population... In this situation, we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment. Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security. To do so we will have to dispense with all sentimentality and day-dreaming; and our attention will have to be concentrated everywhere on our immediate national objectives a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain the position of disparity between the West and the rest of the world. We need not deceive ourselves that we can afford the luxury of altruism and world-benefaction... We should cease to talk about vague and... unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of living standards, and democratization. The day is not far off when we will have to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are then hampered by idealistic slogans, the better.
http://www.transcend.org/t_database/articles.php?ida=78

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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 09:52 AM
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3. So the place DOES Exist.
We should tell someone. This could be big news.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 12:26 PM
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8. Moreover, the govt has been quiet about its existence
for more then half a century!
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 12:38 PM
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9. I Smell Coverup!
What did they know and when did they know it?
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 01:32 PM
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13. Probably just incompetence
After all the US has been busy minding its own backyard.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 12:43 PM
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11. You are %100 correct.
In the Pentagon's Unified Command structure the entire continent save the 'Horn of Africa' falls under the jurisdiction of the European Command.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 12:56 PM
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12. That Is PITIFUL.
And sadly neither side of the aisle seems interested in rectifying this situation. They never will until the people demand it. The people will never demand it until the media starts covering it. Urrrggg.
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 10:00 AM
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4. Are you kidding?
of course it's been in the news here recently!

Didn't you know that Angelina Jolie had her baby in Namibia, a country in the land known as Africa?

:sarcasm:
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 10:59 AM
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6. OH! I Thought That Namibia Was A Posh Celeb Resort!
LOL! :rofl:
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nosillies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 10:02 AM
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5. So I went to Africa in March...
and it was the most amazing place I've ever been. It does exist. I have pictures to prove it. But I must admit my silly self still cries all the time about some of the things I saw. Eye opening, to say the least.

Now that you know it's really there, whatever you do, don't watch Hotel Rwanda. God help you if you see some of the truth that we never hear about -- you'll never be the same.

If you can't get to Africa, I always recommend a visit to www.amnesty.org !
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 11:00 AM
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7. I Was Lucky Enough To Visit Senegal Several Years Ago.
Great place. But the poverty is grinding (and I say this as an archaeologist that works in some very poor parts of Latin America).

I notice we pay some attention to Nigeria. Oh yeah, they have oil...
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 12:40 PM
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10. Africa, like Atlantis, is a mythical land.....
It does not exist. It is as made up as Global Warming, Election Fraud, Peace through Negotiation, Evolution, and any religion other than Christianity.

Do not mention it again!

:) with a little :cry: added in

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