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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 05:49 AM
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Voting Machine Tea Party Time.
Shall we just whine and wail this November when they steal it again with machines?

Bust your ass to get the kids to daycare, drive 20 miles to work, get off one hour early and bust your ass to get to the polls and stand in line and hope like hell they don't close at 6, and then the fucking machine steals your vote or erases it.

Voting Machine Tea Party Time.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 05:53 AM
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1. A Tea party sounds good to me. But this time don't dress up
like Indians. We could dress up like repukes.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 05:55 AM
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2. In other countries...
...people race to Tiananmen Square, or Wenceslas Square, or Red Square to be there at the moment their nation changes. Here in America, we go home, turn on the TV and hope to watch someone else start the revolution.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 05:57 AM
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3. With the electoral college, Supreme Court, & machines, why vote?
A sad lot we are.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 05:58 AM
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4. Yes, but you're forgetting the good news
They're able to count the votes days before the election, thus ensuring an accurate and unhurried count.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 05:59 AM
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5. And of course they announce the winner before he's won.
And of course the announcer's last name is Bush.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 06:24 AM
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6. Do you hear it?
The snoring... intermixed with quiet groans... Nobody's going to do it; most are hoping someone else will take care of it--surely there are people, who know what they're doing, who are getting out there in every voting precinct in America, who will ensure we have paper trails, electronic voting machines with most of the security gaps removed, etc. Or maybe the vote fraud was exaggerated, I've heard that on the news, maybe they're right.

Surely it'll be okay, because I just don't have the time or the energy to get out there. I don't even know where to start. Who to call; and they'd probably either laugh at me or respond with hostility. What can I do anyway, I'm just one, insignificant person...

:sarcasm:

Okay, granted, we really did/do need some realy leadership on this issue. We needed our elected Democratic "Leaders" to step up, demand investigations (even if they can't force them) and in any case, take the problem to the people and ask for and direct their resonse. That's what should've been done. Alas, they, and many other Democrats have accepted whatever explanations (provided, by and large, by Republicans or those supporting them) as valid enough, which allows them to not have to worry about such a profound problem--it's just so much less stressful if systematic voter fraud doesn't really exist.

While it's hard to prove it happened, there's plenty of evidence that it probably happened--enough so that we shouldn't even be able to consider not doing anything and everything, not moving heaven and earth, to be certain that neither it nor anything else can happen this time (whether it's happened before or not)! It's most disturbing to find Democrats themselves pooh-poohing the issue. How will they explain it if it happens again that Republicans win owing to late in the day, inexplicable changes or they win by just the right amount when both the last polls showed they were trailing (perhaps by a large amount) and/or the exit polls showed they were on schedule to lose... but didn't. Of course, it will miraculously, once again, in nearly every instance somehow just happen to be to the Republican's advantage... but it's just "one of those things", "the polls aren't perfect", or "it's not that unusual for a candidate to come from behind or win an upset". By the way, if you think that... "I have some desirable beach-front properties in Arizona you might be interested in..."--in a lovely garden spot called DeathLife Valley (<--example of Republican naming conventions).

Please, the solution is wonderfully simple and inexpensive. Actual voting by paper ballot. Cheap and easy and comes with a paper-trail "built-in" (an advanced anti-fraud technique, and it comes 'standard' with the base model!). Other major advanced industrial western nations rely on just this technique--and it works! It's not as though there isn't any alternative to touch-screens and electronic card counters. It just takes the concerted willpower of groups of Democrats who are tired of wondering why they lost elections they thought they were sure to win--and whether there was fraud or not, it sure would be nice to be confident the outcome wasn't drastically tainted!

Of course, we shouldn't forget fighting to prevent the standard forms of voter fraud that cannot be denied either--those being Republican "dirty tricks" (misdirecting voters to wrong precincts, losing ballots, etc) and disenfranchisement (challenging/threatening minorities at the polls, purging voter registration rolls, making transportation impossible, creating long lines due to too few voting booths, etc). These are important too.

We shouldn't enable those who would seek to engage in fraud. We shouldn't make it easier to beat us. We should actually do something. Every last one of us--should do something. Do something, Do anything-except nothing.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 06:33 AM
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8. "Do something, Do anything-except nothing."
I love that line.
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