Ann Coulter's mother receives letter from her local paper

[kpete]

Ann Coulter's mother receives letter from her local paper
by Sprinkleshttp://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/6/11/104646/222
Sun Jun 11, 2006

It took a few minutes to digest that this editorial is, in fact, a letter addressed to Nell M. Coulter of New Canaan, Conn. from Peter Urban of the Connecticut Post.

To: Nell M. Coulter

New Canaan, Conn.
Dear Mrs. Coulter,

Congratulations on your daughter's success. I'm sure you are proud of Ann's latest work, "Godless: The Church of Liberalism." It's already the top seller on Amazon.com and is obviously provocative, given the hundreds of reviews that are flowing in.

I haven't read it yet, so I wouldn't dream of commenting on the actual book. But, there is one thing that really disturbs me and that's her diatribe against four New Jersey women whom she dubs "The Witches of East Brunswick" whose husbands died in the 9-11 terrorist attacks.

Here's the money quote that has even made Tucker Carlson and Bill O'Reilly squeamish:

"These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzis. I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."

The widows — Kristen Breitweiser, Lorie Van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg and Patty Casazza — came to Capitol Hill often in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. They came seeking answers to how al-Qaida was able to hijack four commercial jets and topple the World Trade Center towers where their husbands worked.

They acted out of grief, just as others have.
more at:
http://www.connpost.com/search//ci_3924863

....................

Sincerely,

Peter Urban

Connecticut Pos

[fishnfla]

1. I think her mom is fair game

This hateful creature she spawned, somebody has to take the onus of having raised such a human being. Its her fault, perhaps. I wonder what went wrong?

[cigsandcoffee]

30. By that logic, we could assail the mothers of....

...any violent criminals in America. Murderers, rapists, armed robbers, etc. Shall we call out and attack the mothers of John Allen Muhammad and John Lee Malvo, for instance?

If Mrs. Coulter hadn't involved herself in the debate, then this writer went too far. If she did, though, then she's fair game.

[mitchum]

33. The mother and the union-busting father made that monster

Fuck ALL of the goddamn Coulters

[cigsandcoffee]

Well, I find it kind of tasteless.

By your logic, Michael Moore's mother would be fair game to Repugs. If that's not acceptable, then neither is this.

[Kahuna]

42. And just how do you equate Michael Moore's works with Coulter's?

I don't care about the wingnut talking points against Moore. What is the reason that you conflate Moore with Coulter?

[cigsandcoffee]

43. He's a partisan like Coulter.

No other comparison is required, IMO. To a Repug, Moore is thought of like we do Coulter - does that make it OK for them to call out his mother?

[CatWoman]

46. big deal!!! so fucking what???

what the hell does Michael Moore have to do with Ann Coulter?

Michael Moore doesn't travel the country calling people names, insulting them, and pouring salt in their wounds.

[Name removed]

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[cigsandcoffee]

57. Well, there was that time when he said that...

...if the hijacked civilians of 9/11 had been black, they would have fought back.


Isn't that a hard slap in the face to the grieving families of the people on those planes (including the many black people)? Does him saying that make it OK to go after his mother?

My point is not to argue who is better or who is worse, I'm saying that it's tacky and outside the bounds of civility to call out a person's mother in a political debate - whether we're talking Josef Stalin or Ann Coulter. Leave the mothers out of it unless they've already jumped in the argument.

If your point is that Coulter is so bad it's OK to go after her mother, then I just have to disagree with you.

[CatWoman]

65. what a sorely lacking, piss poor comparison

..if the hijacked civilians of 9/11 had been black, they would have fought back.

maybe it's just me, but that's a long fucking way from calling them harpys, bitches, unpatriotic, slanderous and treasonous.

[cigsandcoffee]

68. Indeed. But it's still offensive.

And I'd still be disgusted by any RWers who went after his mother for it. This letter to Coulter's mom wasn't a nasty attack or anything, but I think it goes beyond a civil debate to call a person's mother out. Standards are standards, regardless of who you apply them to - even Coulter.

[karlrschneider]

67. My father was a Nazi. An antisemitic, black-hating bigot. I have hated

him for that for 50 years including the 40 years he's been dead. Anybody who wants to call him an asshole is okay in my book.

[TheFarseer]

52. They didn't threaten her

they didn't threaten Anne. They didn't even tell her that Anne was wrong to say those things. They just stated that she *had* said those things. If she finds it offensive, she can throw it away. I get lots of crap in the mail I don't want. I bet Michael Moore an his mother get much more vile things than that in the mail.

[Laurab]

62. There's a bit of a difference - more than a bit, really

Michael Moore's mother has much to be proud of. If I were his mother, *I* would be proud. Although he may be the "Ann Coulter" of the left, he doesn't spew hate, and he does a whole lot that is good. I'm not exactly sure it's a good analogy for that reason. I've never heard of Ann Coulter doing a decent thing, and it's doubtful that she's capable. The same doesn't apply to Michael Moore.

[fishnfla]

53. Talk about stilted logic

Violent criminals do not glorify nor revel or profit in their misdeeds. Everyone including themselves know the difference between right and wrong. Even they, and their families, know a sense of deep shame.

Aryann attacked wives and mothers. She is neither. There is something Oedipedal in her loss of shame. Find out who her closest loved one is, and attack them.

I'd bet as a mother and one who has had a husband, Nell Coulter would be the only one who could point out the error of her daughter's ways. Someone needs to.

Totally fair game

[cigsandcoffee]

58. It's as simple as this:

I disagree with you. A mother is not fair game unless she's already jumped in the debate. If you feel differently, that's up to you.

[fishnfla]

59. well knock me over with a feather!

with such a passive aggresive stance! Good on ya!

Can we take attacking grieving widows off the table too, or do you never get the point?

[cigsandcoffee]

60. I'm not arguing that the woman isn't despicable.

I'm arguing that it's not right to call out her mother. Fair enough?

[CatWoman]

66. fuck her

AND her mother.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

61. Tell me:

It appears from your posts that you believe it's legitimate for leftt wingers to write uninvited letters to the parents of right wing activists even if they haven't personally taken part in political debate.

Do you believe it's legitimate for right wingers to write uninvited letters or otherwise direct protests at the parents of left wing activists who haven't personally taken part in political debate?

If so, I would disagree with you, for the same reasons that I don't think it's acceptable to go after civilians in a war even if it's the best way of achieving one's military goals.

If not, I'm afraid think you're a hypocrite - the rules of political engagement don't, and must not, have anything to do with who is right and who is wrong - either a tactic is legitimate for everyone to use, or it isn't.


On edit: note that I have no information that Nell Coulter *hasn't* involved herself in the political debate; however, my impression from your posts is that you're not certain that she *has*, and this doesn't influence your view.

[SmokingJacket]

63. Eh -- Yes and no.

If my son turned out like that... I'd feel more deserving of a sympathy card.

Nevertheless, if I got hate mail because my son turned evil, I would probably write back as thoughtfully as possible. And spend a lot of sleepless nights.

[grasswire]

2. wow

I saw a photo one time on freerepublic.com of Ann and her mother at an event in Connecticut. How proud that woman must be.

[Cha]

11. LIke schloppy is of

smirk.

[kskiska]

51. I've read that her mother is even worse.

New Canaan is a very upscale enclave. I lived up that way.

[cali]

3. Just a minor point

The local paper is the New Canaan Advertiser, not the Post. In any case, I doubt this will matter to Ma Coulter, who evidently is a very unpleasant person and firmly believes the crap her daughter utters.

[TexasProgresive]

29. Do you know that for a fact?

Or are you just making an assumtion? Tom DeLay's Mom doesn't think so highly of her son's actions.

[cali]

36. As I said

it's what I've heard from my mom and sisters who live in New Canaan. My family's been there for a long time. They know a lot of people in town. If my mom says it, I believe it. Of course she is a long time dem, and was chair of the town dem committee some years ago, but she generally hears what people in town are saying.

[gizmo1979]

4. I wonder if she'll respond and

we'll see if the apple trully doesn't fall far from the tree.

[MADem]

5. I don't know how I feel about this

The letter is very respectful, the money quote sums it up nicely: Like the "Jersey Girls," Mary Fetchet has been there from the beginning. Her 24-year-old son, Bradley, died in the second tower.

Mary is a remarkable woman. She used to work at Bridges in Milford as a social worker but quit after Sept. 11, 2001 and founded Voices of September 11 to provide advocacy and support to all those impacted by the terrorist attack. They are still at work out of an office in New Canaan.

Unlike the "Jersey Girls," Mary has remained non-partisan and continues to travel to Washington to lobby for a safer America. She doesn't do it for fame or money. She does it in memory of her son and the hope that no other mother should suffer a similar fate.

Mary lives over on Sunset Hill Road. It's maybe a six-minute drive from your place. You really should encourage your daughter to meet her. The experience might thaw her frozen heart.

But the mother, on the other hand, is not a celebrity to my knowledge, so I question the dragging of her into the debate about her hateful daughter. Of course, I don't know if the mother trots around New Canaan bragging about the creature at every turn, so maybe it is appropriate.

[Midlodemocrat]

8. Having lived in very republican New Canaan, I think there is a good

chance that Nell Coulter drags Ann's name into every conversation she has.
JMHO.

[MADem]

13. Yeah, I considered that possibility, which is why I couldn't really

condemn the editor for addressing the piece to her. It might be interesting to learn how Dear Mother conducts herself about town!

[cali]

16. NC is not nearly as repub

as it once was, and in any case what counts more in New Canaan than politics is whether something is or is not in good taste. I grew up in NC, and my mother and sisters still live there. According to them, most folks in town, consider Coulter to be tacky. At least that's the buzz.

[Midlodemocrat]

20. You could be right, I haven't lived there for almost 20 years.

It was very repug when I lived there. I was happy to have moved.

[Midlodemocrat]

6. I know people say she is a showman and all, but to spew that

venomous crap, she has to believe it. I could never get those words out of my mouth. She is a heartless witch.

[Webster Green]

7. She has a mother?

That's wierd!

[Kingshakabobo]

9. Here's a picture of her.......

[Webster Green]

19. I was thinking some kind of slime deposit on the floor of an outhouse

...spawned the hideous mutant life-form we see on the TeeVee.

[Caoimhe]

26. LOL! n/t

[smirkymonkey]

35. Ha ha - we posted the same thing at almost the same time...

you beat me to it by a minute or so!

[BrklynLiberal]

38. ExCELLent

[mirandapriestly]

55. That is unfair & entirely unwarranted!

Jackals are kind of cute.

[smirkymonkey]

34. Yes, but she's a jackal...

Here's a photo of the lovely Mrs. Coulter responding to the press uproar over her daughter's comments on the 9-11 widows:

[cigsandcoffee]

10. It seems odd to bring her mother in to it.

[Midlodemocrat]

14. Not to me. She'd drag your mother into it to sell a book. (nt)

[cigsandcoffee]

25. Well, I wouldn't like to base my moves on what she'd do.

[sandrakae]

12. WHY ARE PEOPLE BUYING THIS BOOK?

[Tesla]

17. I hope I don't live close to any of the buyers!!

This is pure evil at it's best!

[LostinVA]

32. Very, very few people are -- look for the daggers

The little symbol next to certain titles on the NYT bestseller lists. This means bulk sales. No, not Borders ordered x amount for their stores, or Joe Repub ordering five for gifts... it means certain commercial buyers are buyers hundreds, thousand, even tens of thousands for whatever reasons. Like Scaife, etc. The Scientologists have been notorious for doing this with Dianetics, too. Thus, the real number of books actually being bought by consumers is very low... but, these bulk sales make the titles appear on the Bestseller lists in papers and store displays....

[tsuki]

40. This is how her book gets sales.

http://www.newsmax.com/adv/godless/?p=1PROMO_CODE=1E99-1

Go to conservative book sites, you'll see the book. Her books are bought in bulk by Republican groups and/or Republican financed groups. They are propelled into "best sellers."

She is a spokesperson for the RNC, saying those things that they want said. Whenever the widows of 911 are mentioned again, the slander will be brought up. I have often wondered if she really writes them.

I travel in my biz, and at airports, incl. Atlanta, I have never seen anyone reading a Coulter book. I have seen Franken's, Stewart's, lots of novels.

I've never met anyone who has read a book of hers, or bought one, or even has one. But everyone discusses the smears as presented by the media (over and over,) so that keeps her name alive.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

50. It's already in the 30% off bin at the Barnes and Noble by me.

Looks like very few copies have been bought.

[mconvente]

15. Excellent post

Of course her mother is fair game. If MANN is willing to spew hateful diatribes on those 9/11 widows (of which they didn't ask for), then Coulter's mother surely can be attacked as well. And this was not a scathing attack at all - it was quite eloquent.

[Ilsa]

18. And what does Annthrax know about intimate relationships

in order to be questioning others' marriages, etc? Has she ever been married or in a committed relationship? Why does she get a free pass? I think her life needs to be made the focus of attention for awhile.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

21. I'm really not sure I understand the point of bringing the mother into it.

[ContraBass Black]

41. It sounds foolish, diversionary, and ineffectual to me.

Unless her mother is cruising the talk circuit saying the same things.

[peacetalksforall]

22. I usually don't favor focusing on a relative of a fool. I think this

letter is brave and defends innocent people. It is remarkable in that people on all levels are starting to take action.

What this writer is saying is the truth. Slinking away is not going to make it in the PNAC world. Obedience and silence is what PNAC and the barons want.

I am starting to understand the clear thinking coming from many New Englanders. I say bravo and thanks to that writer-editorialist.

[JesterCS]

23. Nuts Dont Fall Far From The Tree n/t

[lpbk2713]

24. Annthrax has a mother? I'm surprised.

I thought she (?) oozed out of a Petrie dish.


And if she can publicly comment on her personal view of the surviving family members of 09/11 then that makes her family fair game.

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[applegrove]

28. Mothers are not fair game. I wonder who wrote it. Or if it is true. Ann

was making herself look like a victim on Dobbs. As if she has some right to have her books published when they are so full of hate. As if..she has not laid down the gauntlet again and again with her hatefull attacks on all sorts of people.

Is this verified?

[mitchum]

31. As is her dirtbag union-busting father...

if the sonofabitch is still alive.
Those people brought a MONSTER into the world.

[BrklynLiberal]

37. Well, I cannot help but think that her mother helped to make her what she

is today. Babs Bush is always fair game when it comes to attacking Dimson, so why not?
I do not find it offensive, CERTAINLY no where near as offensive as the things her daughter has said.

[Midlodemocrat]

39. I'm with you. Anyone even halfway responsible for creating this

monster is fair game.

[DesertRat]

44. I disagree with bringing her mother into it.

Unless her mother is out supporting Ann and her book, and spewing the same rhetoric.
We don't know anything about her mother. She could completely disagree and be embarassed by Ann for all we know. I say leave her alone. Just mho.

[gordianot]

45. I am just amazed she was not raised by wild animals , has a human mother.

I have tried for years to figure out how these things happen without success. Her vitriol and anti-social behavior is uniquely human. Her mother may deserve condemnation or sympathy but I avoid judging these matters, her daughter has what I would call an adult behavior disorder. Ann is not well has obvious problems with relationships, like Bush's prognosis hers is very poor.

[POAS]

47. Why all the distress about Coulter's mother

being brought into the discussion?

Anne is, afterall, attacking the "Jersey Girls" for who they are related to and she is not addressing any issues they involve themselves with in a substantive way.

If wives and mothers of 9/11 victims are fair game for Coulter's villification why should her mother be exempt?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

49. The letter isn't even a slam of the mother, either.

I think it's quite clever and gets his point across. Since Ms. Coulter doesn't seem to listen to reason from anyone else, maybe it IS time to get Mom involved.

[Cha]

54. Anyway, who the

fucks cares what the c word thinks or her spawner?

[mnhtnbb]

56. What a great letter! Love the last paragraph

Mary lives over on Sunset Hill Road. It's maybe a six-minute drive from your place. You really should encourage your daughter to meet her. The experience might thaw her frozen heart.


Thaw her frozen heart!! That's great!

[WiseButAngrySara]

64. Millions for undeserved grief versus millions for unmitigated hatred!

He compliments the hypocritical monster. Why should I care what else he has to say to the spawn of this evil being?