I don't understand why some almost seem disappointed zaraqwi is dead

[still_one]

This isn't a game like the repukes play, that bastard killed a lot of people, and it is a good thing he is gone.

In fact this administration should have got him years ago, but in their arrogance and incompentence allowed them to miss numerous opportunities.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/

How many deaths could have been prevented if they had gone after zaraqwi years ago when they had the opportunity?

I hope people do not blind themselves with the hatred of this administration not to recognize that the death of zarqawi is good for the world. A person who kills any civillian to spread terror is NOT a good person

[Demeter]

1. He Just Wasn't that Powerful that His Death Will Change Anything

The situation has gone too far past correctable for any death (except maybe Bush or Cheney) changing the course of this disaster.

[still_one]

4. I agree, but it is still a good thing he is out of the picture

[AndyA]

2. Well, I know why one person is disappointed that he's dead...

Now Ann Coulter doesn't have a date on Friday night.

:rofl:

[still_one]

14. That is good. Someone said Letterman said the following last night

"let's see Ann Coulter is single and blond, do you think we can line her up with a date with OJ?"

[warrens]

31. Also said

"Al Gore is working on a new movie. An Inconvenient Bitch."

[still_one]

37. I wish I would have seen it last night, letterman is great

[MrModerate]

3. I think that there's a very real fear . . .

That Schimpanski will somehow turn this event into a vindication for the entire Iraq adventure, emboldening him to even more insane acts.

No decent person regrets Zarqawi's passing; no informed, decent person wants George Bush's power increased.

[still_one]

17. I tend to agree with your assessement

but it if people look at the situation analytically, they will realize that any propaganda this administration hope to gain from it will be very short-lived

The civil war we caused in Iraq, BASED ON A LIE, is NOT going away

[marshall]

Some do

Actually Nick Berg's father, in reference to Zarqawi's death, acknowledged "sorrow" at the passing of another human life. He said he does not blame Zarqawi for the deaths he is accused of being behind, and he says he has forgiven Zarqawi for sawing off his son's head.

[MrModerate]

38. Phew! That's more than I could do . . . n/t

[dipsydoodle]

5. You have been led to believe

"he either killed a lot of people or contributed to their deaths". The extent to which that statement is true as opposed to simply being a suitable figurehead to help instill fear is a matter of conjecture.

[quinnox]

6. How could anyone be disappointed or unhappy

about that killer being dead?? It boggles the mind. This guy killed women and children and bombed religious places not to mention beheadings galore. He got what he deserved. I was rather pleased when I heard the news, it made my day.

[still_one]

19. same here. After what he did to Nick Berg, that should bring home

what a physcopath he was

[LeftNYC]

7. I think that the question has to be

how many Americans died because we didnt get to Zarquawi in 2002 or 03 because Bush wanted to go to Iraq. Am I glad he's gone? yes. Will it make the violence subside? Only time will tell.

[still_one]

21. and that should really be the question

[ContraBass Black]

8. "almost seem"

That's two qualifiers in one sentence. Can you point to an example?

[still_one]

26. I don't want to specifically attack anyone personally

but when general statements are made that he never existed, or the U.S. created him without any evidence, that tends to point in that direction. That is almost how the repukes were blaming anything bad on Clinton. Hell, they were saying CLinton was responsible for 9/11 and the war in Iraq which is just the opposite of reality. Unfortunately, the MSM spreads this garbage.

We cannot lose the ability to be critical thinkers, the repukes have

[soothsayer]

9. I don't get the bloodlust. Did we give up on justice?

[leftofthedial]

10. yeah. and so many LIEburls seem to be bummed out

that the chocolate ration has been increased by 21%.

Victory gin, citizen!

[bowens43]

11. Zaraqwi was just another pawn

in the neo-con war game. He is now elevated to martyr. The most likly scenerio is that Zaraqi's death has made Iraq, the US and the world less safe.

[Virginia Dare]

20. Exactly...

if it was indeed him, and he is now indeed dead, then somebody gave him up--the real question is who and why?

[Warpy]

12. You're reading skepticism and boredom as disappointment

Nobody's sorry he's dead, it's just that he's been dead so many times before this that we've all gotten just a little too used to the news.

Plus, there seem to be several problems with the official story.

If the PR was true, he was a very bad man and few will mourn him. However, don't expect anything in Iraq to get better just because one of the reports of his death may turn out to be true.

Besides, I'm a Buddhist. I know killing one's enemies does little good. They always come back, and with a worse Karmic load.

[Danieljay]

13. If true, its a good thing. That being said, Al Queda wasn't even in Iraq

before Bush and his failed war. So where does this actually get us? This whole effed up thing has been 1 step forward, 2 steps back. This war and the Bush pResidency has been a failure from the beginning.

[htuttle]

15. Your statement is absolutely, totally full of bullshit

I see plenty of posts from people skeptical about the whole Zarqawi mythos.

I do not see ONE post that seems 'almost disappointed' that Zarqawi has been declared dead.

Point me to one, please.

[SmokingJacket]

16. Many people dislike being manipulated by govt psy ops

See this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1380886

"Disappointed" is not the right word -- disgusted is more accurate. If this stops the deaths of more civilians, I'll celebrate, for sure. But at the moment I feel subjected to a ghoulish but carefully designed theater show.

[Dhalgren]

18. Any time a criminal is taken off the streets, it's a good thing.

It's just that Zaraqawi's death doesn't make any difference to the black-hole of misery, destruction, and death that the US has created in Iraq. This is being touted as some great victory and it categorically is not. It's just some bloody thug who has been killed by other bloody thugs and the beat will go on...

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

22. THANK YOU!

Many thanks for digging that up. I archived it when it first appeared, then subsequently lost it. I was thinking of it today whilst all the bullshit about this was being posted.

[still_one]

28. I thought it was important. I do not know how long that link will

remain, since it exposes how bad this administration has been in dealing with everything they have touched

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

40. It's the one article I've seen that more than anything else...

...proves that Bush ignored the WoT in favour of his stupid fucking Iraq Fun Time Adventure. It's damning stuff. Figures that nobody else picked it up. It should have been easy enough to confirm.

Let me guess how many times MSNBC mentioned this, their own report, today. I'm guessing zero.

[endarkenment]

23. Who specifically?

I haven't seen one such post here. I have heard reports that this bullshit is being touted in Pravda. So show me the posts that are disappointed.

That said I refuse to celebrate another killing, another death in this wrong war gone bad. Is that what you mean?

[alcibiades_mystery]

24. Agreed

Zarqawi was a douchebag.

The sad fact is that so many on these boards are - to put it bluntly - idiots. They see only in two's: good for Bush, bad for us. It is an infantile and idiotic way to conduct oneself, but it seems often quite popular here.

[chill_wind]

29. Examples. Please support your assertion.

We keep reading such pronouncements and claims of "such idiots" this morning.

Let's see the substance.

[Bridget Burke]

41. His main assertion is that DU'ers are bad for not loving Bush....

A slight variation of the sentiment keeps coming up....

The sad fact is that so many on these boards are - to put it bluntly - idiots. They see only in two's: good for Bush, bad for us. It is an infantile and idiotic way to conduct oneself, but it seems often quite popular here.

Nothing about Zarqawi, at all. Just a condemnation of DU.

[still_one]

32. It is like a game. Where is the critical thinking

It also reflects bad on our cause. We are NOT as bad as the neocons, that is all I am saying

[Avalux]

25. Well, to the repukes, it is a game, unfortunately.

I am glad Al Zarqawi is dead, he was a criminal, a murderer. However, the repukes see his death as a political jackpot, and that pissed me off, because they'll use it as a way to try to jack up Bush's poll numbers.

If you're hearing disappointment - it's not that - it's knowing what the repugs do with the story.

[still_one]

35. you are absolutely right, and that is NOT what I am referring to

in fact they will get very little political gain from this. If it was 2 or 3 years ago things might be different, but today people are realizing what they have created

[stepnw1f]

27. Who Seems Dissapointed?

I haven't seen one person on here state that they were disappointed. NOT ONE!

[Bridget Burke]

30. I'll be glad when people stop being murdered in Iraq.

But Zarqawi's death is being played as a victory for the Bush administration. We don't yet know that it will cause any real improvement in Iraq.

I agree that killing civilians is not good.

[seabeyond]

33. i dont jump up and down and celebrate anyones death. it was a

military victory, and an end to a person who was the enemy. no one is saying, bummer he is dead, such a nice, good man. there may be comments, wait and see if true, not going to make a bet of difference in the scheme, is this a victory for bush that will make war ok again?

all these are legitimate thoughts running thru peoples heads. or maybe one poster that says why hoorah to blood bath, legal system is good.

but no one is saying this man was a good guy that should have been left alone

[stellanoir]

34. Whether he lived or died is obviously of no direct consequence to me.

What is deeply disappointing is that our media and misadministration is gleefully celebrating death and mistaking it for justice whilst professing to be "a culture of life."

That will more than likely result woefully in more of the same.

The lack of humanity and murder out of revenge just sets up an incessant cycle of death and further destruction and always has.

It's sickening and I once naively thought we were far better than this.

That is all.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

36. honestly this is the only thread I've seen that even suggests we're...

"disappointed"

[The Stranger]

39. Wake up.

If the U.S. hadn't been lied and repeatedly fucked into this torturing, civilian-massacring, hate-mongering, illegal and disgusting massive murderous war crime, then no one would even know Zarqawi's name.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

42. Did you even read the article?

He was preparing to carry out attacks in Europe using ricin and other chemical weapons. He abandoned those plans when a better target appeared. We'd have known about him one way or the other.

[Skinner]

43. Locking.

To borrow the words of a poster above.

"This is the only thread I've seen that even suggests we're disappointed."

And a reminder: If someone starts a thread to claim to be disappointed by today's news, I strongly suggest clicking alert so the mods can check it out.