George W Bush did not get Zarqawi - our Military did.

[rpgamerd00d]

You could put Mo, Larry and Curley in the White House, and our Military would still kick ass.

Try to remember that.

edit: Some people in this post just don't "get it".

Regardless of :tinfoilhat:, we as DEMS have to Spin this to our advantage. The way to do that is by stating the above to anyone that will listen.

[bryant69]

1. Yeah but doesn't a good leader have to know

which asses to kick and how hard?

How'd the military do "kicking ass" in Haditha? In abu Ghraib?

Bryant
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[afrosia]

5. Nice

I couldn't have said it better myself. Even if, like Bush, I had someone to plan and pre-write every speech I gave.

[Lerkfish]

2. allegedly. I'm still wondering if

the actor they hired to portray Zarqawi just got retired for political gain.
You know, how zarqawi had a prosthetic leg, but in the last video, he ran with two good legs?

Methinks some poor schmuck was hired/coerced to play a role, not realizing his death was the last act.

[Eurobabe]

3. It's a fucking ruse, Zarqawi's been on ice for the perfect moment

they played the military for fools, as well as the 'Murican public.

[bdamomma]

4. Take this Poll also

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13195017/


about half way down page



Live Vote
What will be the likely impact of Al-Zarqawi's apparent death? * 30163 responses

Huge blow to insurgency; it will lead to significant drop in violence
27%

Small setback to insurgents; it will not impact the level of terror
33%

Inconsequential; the country is divided by sectarian hatred that will continue to forment violence
40%
Not a scientific survey. Click to learn more. Results may not total 100% due to rounding.

[Rhiannon12866]

20. Done.

The last option is still winning, up to 41%. At least the majority of people get it, despite the efforts of the media to spin this as a huge victory.

[RedStateShame]

6. Very good point

If nothing else, it shows that our military can still perform despite the obvious bungling at the top. If prominent Democrats are smart, they'd say something along those lines when the MSM asks if this is a victory for the president.

[rpgamerd00d]

8. That was the entire point of my post. Don't give W credit.

Give credit to the military.

At least someone gets it.

[The2ndWheel]

11. So what about Haditha and Fallujah?

And the list goes on. We keep saying Bush is responsible for that and should be put on the stand for his crimes. He didn't actually kill anyone there either, the military did.

[rpgamerd00d]

12. Responsibility and efficacy are different things.

1. Bush ordered the military to capture/kill Zarqawi.
2. Bush ordered the military to kill innocent civilians.


1. Military gets credit for accomplishing it.
2. Bush gets blame for ordering it, and military gets blame for following illegal order.

You people need to stop thinking so mono-dimensionally.

[The2ndWheel]

15. You need to be a little more consistent

1. Bush ordered military to kill
2. Bush ordered military to kill

1. Military gets credit
2. Bush gets blame, military gets blame

You missed something there.

[rpgamerd00d]

18. You are biased.

Zarqawi needed to be killed/captured.
Civilians didn't.

Get over it.

[The2ndWheel]

19. Biased how?

If Zarqawi needed to be killed, and Bush gave the order, and the military completed that order, using what you've stated about the blame for civilian deaths, Bush also has to get credit. One of those properties from highschool algebra has to come into play there.

[RedStateShame]

13. Go back to Abu Ghraib...

The people convicted were the bottom on the chain of command.
When soldiers are in an environment that allows, much less
encourages, illegal behavior, then the person or persons
responsible for that environment to exist are just as
responsible as the soldier holding the prisoner on a leash.
The same goes for Haditha and Fallujah. A good leader know
that behavior such as that only weakens the cause. That is, if
you believe that we're there to instill a fair democracy. If
we're not, that's a whole other can of worms to open in a
court.

[Name removed]

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[Junkdrawer]

7. But how did they get him onsite: Amana, Frigidare, or Frostpoint?

:shrug:

[johnnie]

9. Yeah, I agree

I posted this in a different thread earlier this morning. bush hasn't done shit.

[The Straight Story]

10. Same for Haditha? (nt)

[acmavm]

14. He looks in pretty good shape for a guy caught up in a

bombing attack. Did they give him a bath and clean him up? How considerate.

I would say it was a very good thing that they got him. But first I'd have to believe that it will/would make a differnce.

[Rhiannon12866]

21. Yup. They cleaned him up and trimmed his beard.

They said this on CNN. This reminds me of what they did with Saddam's sons. And I agree. They are trying to spin this as a huge victory, since they desperately need one, which makes me suspicious. And I also have to be convinced that this one death will make a difference.:-(

[acmavm]

22. Cleaned him up and trimmed his beard, huh? Did he get the

deluxe pedicure and manicure as well??

[Rhiannon12866]

23. They only showed his face, so my guess is not...

But I wouldn't bet against a tooth whitener.:shrug:

Other than that, I think that they were just hoping to hold his skull together for the cameras.x(

[The Stranger]

17. No, playing into Rove's "tera"propaganda only helps the Maladministration.

Better to continue to wake people up to the endless inundation of propaganda.