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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:31 PM
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Who exactly are we at war with ??
I just saw a crawler on CNN quoting Tony Snow saying with regards to the murders of Iraqi civilians and the cover-up, " we are at war."

Has there ever been any specific designation of exactly who it is we're supposed to be fighting ? How do the soldiers know who to kill ?

In an earlier report, I heard someone saying the troops that were accused of the Hadithia massacre had just been attacked by Al Qiada forces. Do those guys wear certain uniforms, or have a sign of some sort that identifies them ?

In Nam, we kinda, sorta knew who the enemy was--sometimes-- but I've yet to figure out which Iraqis are the "bad guys." Can any of you smarter people help me out here ......

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:32 PM
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1. the bush crime gang versus the United States of America
and everyone else in the world
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Anus Retainus Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:33 PM
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2. Eurasia
We've always been at war with Eurasia.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:40 PM
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4. exactly....
And for the same reason. This is so transparent.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:35 PM
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3. Americans are at war
with themselves, devastating the globe in the process... :cry:
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:41 PM
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5. Officially we are not 'at war'
nor were we in vietnam, nor did we have any clue there who the enemy was either, as 'the enemy' and 'the people of vietnam' were pretty much the same set. Likewise with Iraq. My Lai, Haditha, all woven from the same cloth, and these are the incidents we know about.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:51 PM
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6. WE are at war with these economically oppressive ASSWIPES,...
Edited on Fri Jun-02-06 06:53 PM by Just Me
,...running/ruining our nation while simultaneously destroying others completely innocent of any wrong-doing against you or me.

'kay?

On edit: sorry for being so snippy,....it wasn't personal,...I'm just SICK TO DEATH of these monsters!
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:01 PM
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10. no offense taken
glad to give you and others a chance to vent and keep focused. :hi:
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:12 PM
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13. Only a wee small percentage of human beings deserve to be dragged,...
,...down to the least common denominator of our potential. They, unfortunately, have invaded our potential. But, we're fighting back,...it's not like the past,...we are fighting back. This, too, shall pass, without repeat.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:52 PM
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7. We are at war with the people who are getting in the way of our
total and absolute conquest of Iraq.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:57 PM
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8. Only Congress can declare war
but they'd have to sprout some cajones first.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:00 PM
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9. Mexicans and gays. And Arabs. Aren't you paying attention?
And anyone who wants to surf the internet and email in private. Or make phone calls. Or protest the failed government. And poor people.

That's all.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:10 PM
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11. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
Didn't you get the memo?

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:11 PM
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12. the Right Wing
they create terrorism, then make us fight it for them while stealing our money, and taking away our rights.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:12 PM
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14. "Terror. We'll know it when we see it." Now shut up and watch FOX news!
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:16 PM
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15. I think we're over there now to protect contractors ?
I think a majority of Iraqis don't want us there or our freaking democracy :silly:
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Ani Yun Wiya Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:24 PM
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16. You call it "war".
Change that word to "crusade" and you will geta better idea of what's in progress.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:30 PM
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17. There is no war...
There is an invasion force on the ground for the sole purpose of occupation. Iraqis are being hunted. (That's what I call it when I see people walking around with a gun in their hands...just look at Cheney) This will forever alter the balance of peace that was established in the East. If BushCo is successful with his plan, Iraq will be hated and despised by every country around them. Before they were loved and adored. If they are not successful, the country will fall to total anarchy due to the lack of a sound government.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:33 PM
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18. The EVILDOERS, duh!!
Whoever the evildoers are, that's who we're at war with. :crazy:

I mean, they're dead, how do we know they weren't doing evil, and then the Marines had to act?

SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!

/sarcasm
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 01:20 AM
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26. Girl ! You're nuts !!
Edited on Sat Jun-03-06 01:20 AM by jaysunb
Thanks for the laugh ! :hi:
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:33 PM
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19. This is Vietnam. Just in fast motion and more people able to get
the truth out because of the internet. These "bad guy Iraqis" are defending their country against an invader. I see no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to. It's the only way they can fight. Pull out the invaders and let them run their own country.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:57 PM
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24. Whomever asserted "history repeats itself" was WRONG WRONG WRONG!
Similar (I repeat, SIMILAR) situations may occur but history NEVER repeats itself, ever. That's one myth that should be squashed.

Human behavior is more predictable than how situations will play out, and human behavior is DEFINITELY not yet mastered by either our individual selves or science. These monsters, however, have maliciously played the psy-op button to play their world dominance chess game. Sick fucks. They deserve to personally loose every material freedom they possess,...and then some. I'd like to sit each and every one of them down in front of a screen for 8+ hours straight, EVERY DAY UNTIL THEY PASS, of the atrocities they've committed and show them photo-shopped pics of themselves and their loved ones had they been subjected to such malicious violence. If/when they break down, if ever, reward them with a one month break from confronting their viciousness upon humanity and give them a choice of either writing a letter each day to each victim and every American they deceived or back to punishment for monstrosities.

I am a human rights advocate but,...these are people who seriously deserve what they delivered, short of death. I would never wish death upon them because I want them to LIVE with what "meaning", what "actions", what "behavior" they have delivered unto others. GIVE THEM THE JUSTICE THEY DELIVERED, short of death,....far short of the torture they imposed.

x(

They are monsters.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:35 PM
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20. we're fighting an unknown soldier...
they've got him surrounded at Arlington. But its too hard to
find the unknown known you unknowingly don't know about.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:36 PM
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21. Good point. The "war on terror" meme is as vague as it is
useful for an unrelentingly jingoistic administration. We do ourselves a disfavor if we try to address the strawman they offer. It may not be too late to short circuit their fear mongering with a clear recognition that terrorism will not destroy the US. Will not end our way of life. Will not end the movement for self determination around the world. Bushco has played this one out too far, imo. I think folks are getting wise to it all.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:36 PM
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22. The only enemy I know of call themselves "NEOCONS"
They are insane people who claim to be fighting a war on some abstract concept, but I just think they're insane murderers.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:39 PM
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23. Amen! They seem to be the ones doing the most damage to our country.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 08:04 PM
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25. well, obviously you hate america!
:silly:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 01:34 AM
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27. THAT is the question to ask.
WHO are we supposed to be killing- and WHY? What is our mission, exactly?

Is there, like, something we're WORKING toward, here?

Or, are we just a bunch of guys sitting around with guns shooting people?
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-03-06 11:02 AM
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28. This is exactly the discussion I 'd hoped this post
would generate.

We spend an awful lot of time bemoaning the lies that got us to Iraq--correctly so-- but, by exposing the sheer lunacy of the entire adventure helps to rebut the trite excuses for being there.
Fortunately, most Americans now " get it " but these kind of questions help to reinforce the folly and criminality of the administrations actions.

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