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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:02 PM
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DUer GuvWurld On Thom Hartmann's Show! 6/1, 11:00 AM PT, 2:00 EST
Edited on Thu Jun-01-06 12:43 PM by Kurovski
(Click on "listen live" listed in the left hand column.)
http://www.thomhartmann.com/

IndyOp says the following is a good stream of Thom's show:

http://www.whiterosesociety.org/Hartmann.pls

If you miss the show, it will be archived at Thom's site, and I'm guessing, at white rose society.

The following is an excerpt from The Eureka Reporter about GuvWurld's upcoming appearance:

"Berman recently published a book, “We Do Not Consent,” a compilation of writings from his two-year campaign to ensure verifiable elections in Humboldt County. Topics include election integrity, U.S. involvement in Iraq, media reform, propaganda and strategies for large-scale social change. The book is available for sale and is also available as a free PDF download.

Berman is expected to discuss his reform efforts on Hartmann’s program as well as possible protest actions that the Voter Confidence Committee may take at the June 6 primary election. The VCC has been working on a campaign advocating transparent, secure and verifiable elections in Humboldt County."

http://www.eurekareporter.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?ArticleID=11732
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:05 PM
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1. Go Guv!
:kick:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:13 PM
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2. Kick for an end to Republican sanctioned election crapola.
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:21 PM
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3. Kick for Democracy
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:26 PM
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4. Kick for the Truth!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:29 PM
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5. Kick for Democratic leaders still not paying attention.
Please get on it, double time. "More, More, More", that's how I like it.

Howard Dean, you're breaking my heart! :loveya:
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:32 PM
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6. K&R #5 - thanks everyone
Be sure to visit my new blog http://WeDoNotConsent.blogspot.com
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:42 PM
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7. kick
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:53 PM
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8. Kick for 5 minute warning.
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:55 PM
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9. time to tune your radio or your "internets"
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 12:59 PM
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10. Live in 1 minute!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 01:07 PM
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11. On now.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 01:20 PM
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14. Self-delete. Posted in wrong place.
Edited on Thu Jun-01-06 01:21 PM by Kurovski
D'oh!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 01:13 PM
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12. "Consent of the governed is not even being sought" by our government.
"Time to withdraw our consent" Speaking of the Voter Confidence Resolution.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 01:23 PM
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15. Here is The Voter Confidence Resolution from GuvWurld's site:
Whereas an election is a competition for the privilege of representing the people; and

Whereas each voter is entitled to cast a single ballot to record his or her preferences for representation; and

Whereas the records of individual votes are the basis for counting and potentially re-counting a collective total and declaring a winner; and

Whereas an election's outcome is a matter of public record, based on a finite collection of immutable smaller records; and

Whereas a properly functioning election system should produce unanimous agreement about the results indicated by a fixed set of unchanging records; and

Whereas recent U.S. federal elections have been conducted under conditions that have not produced unanimous agreement about the outcome; and

Whereas future U.S. federal elections cannot possibly produce unanimous agreement as long as any condition permits an inconclusive count or re-count of votes; and

Whereas inconclusive counts and re-counts have occurred during recent U.S. federal elections due in part to electronic voting devices that do not produce a paper record of votes to be re -counted if necessary; and

Whereas inconclusive results have also been caused by election machines losing data, producing negative vote totals, showing more votes than there are registered voters, and persistently and automatically swapping a voter's vote from his or her chosen candidate to an opponent; and

Whereas inconclusive results make it impossible to measure the will of the people in their preferences for representation; and

Whereas the Declaration of Independence refers to the Consent of the Governed as the self-evident truth from which Government derives "just Power";

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED:

Because inconclusive results, by definition, mean that the true outcome of an election cannot be known, there is no basis for confidence in the results reported from U.S. federal elections; and

Be it also resolved:

The following is a comprehensive election reform platform likely to ensure conclusive election results and create a basis for confidence in U.S. federal elections:
1) voting processes owned and operated entirely in the public domain, and
2) clean money laws to keep all corporate funds out of campaign financing, and
3) a voter verified paper ballot for every vote cast and additional uniform standards determined by a non-partisan nationally recognized commission, and
4) declaring election day a national holiday, and
5) counting all votes publicly and locally in the presence of citizen witnesses and credentialed members of the media, and
6) equal time provisions to be restored by the media along with a measurable increase in local, public control of the airwaves, and
7) presidential debates containing a minimum of three candidates, run by a non-partisan commission comprised of representatives of publicly owned media outlets, and
8) preferential voting and proportional representation to replace the winner-take-all system for federal elections;
Be it further resolved:

When elections are conducted under conditions that prevent conclusive outcomes, the Consent of the Governed is not being sought. Absent this self-evident source of legitimacy, such Consent is not to be assumed or taken for granted.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 01:15 PM
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13. Thank you so much Guvwurld.
I was so not surprised to hear yet another bright and intelligent sounding voice.

All of your hard work is highly appreciated.
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 01:37 PM
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16. Thank you all, and thanks Thom Hartmann!
Well I only got half the time I was told to expect but I think it went well nonetheless. What I wanted to cover and didn't get to is how we have to hold the media accountable by challenging them not to report as fact what they cannot independently verify. It would have been nice to emphasize peaceful revolution more, including offering my definition (a shift in the balance of power between We The People and the government) and a bit about tactics upcoming here in Humboldt. Perhaps next time?...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:30 PM
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17. Kick
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