Alito Hearing----Day 5-----thread 5

[in_cog_ni_to]

Here we go!

[dogday]

1. thank you....

[in_cog_ni_to]

3. I think it's almost all over until next week?

[dogday]

13. Yes, I do enjoy this , I have to admit it

I love these hearing and being able to post my opinions while they are going on....

[CornField]

2. Links to previous threads

Thread 1

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x127816#128628

Thread 2

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x128888#129114

Thread 3

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x129722

Thread 4

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=130166&mesg_id=130166

[sproutster]

4. Leahy - fillibuster bad practice... getting bad feelings

[adigal]

7. Me, too: I will work with you

on the schedule with this.

Leahy is still talking about the schedule.

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. Is that what he said? I thought he was talking about

the judges whose nominations never found their way out of the REPUBLICAN controlled hearings for Clinton's nominees (pocket filibusters)? He talked about the Senate filibuster as a whole?

[sproutster]

29. It appeared to me

He talked about the Clinton fillibusters, and said, " they were bad practice then and they are bad practice..." I will admit I don't think he finished the sentence.

[tnlefty]

41. That's what I heard, also. That holding nominees up in committee was a

bad practice.

[babylonsister]

5. Specter is a sell-out despite what he wrote. Claims it has nothing

to do with party lines. I'm not buying it.

[Surya Gayatri]

6. These two ole boys

should have a "talkout" at high noon to see who could talk the other one to death!

[DemonFighterLives]

14. Have you ever heard more words that said less

I could go on and on.
No vote by Leahy.

[Sydnie]

17. Yes I have. Everytime blivet** speaks. n/t

:rofl:

[Surya Gayatri]

22. Yeah, but he

tends to speak in shorter sentences with monosyllabic words. :rofl:

[tn-guy]

74. No contest....

Biden could whip them both with one lip tied behind his back.

[sproutster]

8. Did he state his vote?!

[dogday]

9. Are they in love?

[Sydnie]

10. I tivo'd it back and typed it out word for word

and the thread was locked.

Basically, he said that he will vote him out of committee due to his commitment to the President and the the Rep caucus and once he gets on the floor, whether he votes yea or nay will be his own independent decision.

so, he is voting to get him out of committee and then will vote as he sees fit on the floor.

No way he is going to vote yes unless they make him some sort of great deal for some future need.

[sproutster]

12. Thank you so much - didn't understand it :)

[Anita Garcia]

15. okay, so now we see gang of 14 getting it on?

[gkhouston]

24. that's the speculation that will overflow GD for the next several

days. I'm guessing there will be a filibuster, not so much because of the abortion issues but because of the unitary executive stuff. If they put someone on the bench that gives the President that much power, it will lessen their own power/status. Do they really want that?

[Mind_your_head]

16. Thank you too - I was getting confused myself n/t

[EFerrari]

26. Wasn't Specter distinguishing between his job as Committee Chair

and as a Senator out of Committee?

He's very protective of the rights of the Congress and Executive tresspassing on those rights.

So, he'll vote Alito out of Committee but Bush better not count his vote just yet on the floor.

[gkhouston]

32. sounds like Specter was making that distinction

and CNN wasn't. :grr:

[Mind_your_head]

37. Good thing CNN doesn't have a vote then!

It wouldn't be the first time CNN GETS IT WRONG!

[Mind_your_head]

34. I SURE hope that's what he was saying! eom

[babylonsister]

19. Specter is supporting the nomination, per Roll Call/CSPN. nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. Right...it does sound like Specter will vote for confirmation. :(

[adigal]

23. C-Span just said Specter will vote for him

for the Supreme Court without doubt.

???

[Surya Gayatri]

18. A big thanks to the thread mods

for the good work over the last week. :headbang: SG

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. DEMS WILL POSTPONE the process for 1 week!

Good. :)

[FreedomAngel82]

55. So it's not over yet??

[in_cog_ni_to]

25. Now Specter is whining about the Dems postponing the vote.

[EFerrari]

28. Good. Let him whine. It may be good for his circulation.

lol

[Anita Garcia]

30. say what?

I have this image ala Willie Wonka of someone whispering in his ear between table to press speaking area telling hime to clear that issue up.

[adigal]

27. Specter's whining about the delay

Reporter asking about extraordinary circumstances?

Specter: Oh, NO, no one has suggested ext. circumstances at all. Not at all.

Democrats had better get their act together FAST!!!!!

[Mind_your_head]

31. Can we put together a summary of who spoke for/against

the Alito nomination? (i.e., Spoke in Favor of Alito: Turner (1 year clerk 2003-04), Pringle (1 year clerk 1993-94)
Spoke against appointment: NARAL Pres., President of National Bar Assn., etc.

I need some help here, don't have tivo, etc.

TIA

[antigone382]

79. Turner represented the NBA, spoke against Alito

*White* spoke in favor of him.

[Sydnie]

33. Love yah all - gotta leave for work now

Keep good notes of what they say now for me, ok?

:grouphug: Enjoyed sharing it with you all.

[EFerrari]

48. See you, Sydnie. Thank you!

:hi:

[DemonFighterLives]

35. Highlights were announced by Cspn

Highlights of all 5 days to be aired Sat and Sun 10:00.
Could doublecheck, but that may be a good summary.
Specter blabbing more behind the scenes. He sees no reason for delay.

[adigal]

36. Arlen predicts Red State Dems will vote

for Alito.

God, I am frustrated.

[in_cog_ni_to]

38. I think that's what the Dems are telling the repukes,

but they are planning a filibuster and don't want the repukes to know about it.:)

[Anita Garcia]

40. Hope so!

[EST]

46. There is a lot of political calculus going on.

Spectre has to play to his base. His last election was a squeaker and he must expect to survive into the next term.
The one -two punch politics-
1>Get elected
2>stay elected
(repeat)

[in_cog_ni_to]

39. Bye all...gotta go get the kiddo at school! It's been fun!

:hi:

[EST]

47. Stay cool.

C U L

[doublethink]

75. Bye in_cog_ni_to !

Hey I finally put Boo in my signature line to keep Isabelle company in these threads for awhile. Don't think I'll keep her there though, she doesn't deserve (bad doggie) to be immortalized like Isabelle yet! Peace. :)

[in_cog_ni_to]

76. AWWWWWW!!!!!!!! Boo is BEAUTIFUL!

Isabelle would LOVE her.:loveya: Would you look at Boo's face? *sigh* I just LOVE doggies. :loveya: You BETTER leave her in your sig line! Little Isabelle gets lonely! :)

[CornField]

42. I find it interesting about Specter -- he kept asking the folks

if Alito was denied if he/she thought someone would be nominated of whom they could approve. It seemed odd, but listening to him now...

I wonder if he is getting ready to spin his approval of Alito around the "all the others listed on the President's potential nominee list were worse."

[gkhouston]

43. I don't care if * sends up 20 nominees

if they're no good, they're no good. I'm not gonna get tired of saying, "nope", and neither should they.

[Lerkfish]

44. so...that would be grading SCOTUS on the curve?

great set of standards, there.

[dogday]

45. Wade Henderson

speaking now and doing a great job!

[CornField]

49. I wonder if people realize that Roe v Wade is about more than abortion?

If they truly understood what is was about, there's no way they could fight to have it overturned.

[dogday]

51. Once you give them power over a person's individual

rights, they will take the rest away as well. This would be only the beginning....

[Mind_your_head]

52. Care to elaborate about that more

so that we can 'spread the word'. Thanks :-)

[CornField]

61. RvW goes straight to the heart of personal privacy

Roe v. Wade was decided primarily on the Ninth Amendment to the US Constitution, a part of the Bill of Rights. The Court's decision in this case was that the Ninth Amendment, in stating that "the enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people," protected a person's right to privacy.

To strike down Roe v Wade is to strike down that assertion: i.e., that American citizens have a right to privacy.

[Mind_your_head]

73. Thank you for the enlightenment

I'm going to look into it further so that I understand it all better. Thanks again.

[Rainscents]

53. Lot of people don't have a clue!

They have no idea Roe v Wade is about privacy, women's body, birth control, etc...!!! This is NOT just about abortion!!! People just don't get it!

[Tesla]

54. They think women just want to kill babies..... they don't see that it's

RIGHTS we are talking about!!
Take one WON Right, and they start taking them all!!

[FreedomAngel82]

58. Of course people don't know

Many people believe that if they overturn Roe v Wade abortions will go down and all that stuff because it'll be illegal. Not true. It'll be the same. Roe v Wade is about privacy and safety for women.

[dogday]

56. He put that reporter in his place .....

[EFerrari]

59. The Right wants to hurry up and foreclose the debate

because they know the more time we have, the more people will speak up against this bigot.

(My comment, not Henderson!)

[CornField]

50. Marti Rosenberg - RI for a Fair & Independent Judiciary

[EFerrari]

57. Ralph Neas!

Sam Alito is a walking Constitutional Amendment.
This is winnable!

[dogday]

60. Who will set us back 7 generations nt

[in_cog_ni_to]

77. A walking constitutional amendment??

:rofl::rofl: OMG...That is the PERFECT description of the man.:rofl:

[EFerrari]

62. Henderson up again.

"The more Americans learn about Judge Alito, the more concerns they have."

"Senators aren't listening to Washington voices, they are listening to people in their home states."

[EFerrari]

63. NARAL pres Nancy Keenan

"Freedom and privacy were paramount in these hearings. These issues came up time and time again."

"A yes vote on Sam Alito means dismantling Roe . . .People in this country understand privacy."

[babylonsister]

65. Except Specter, for starters.

x( :eyes:

[EFerrari]

64. (Who is this lady?)

"Alito has a huge record, 15 years on the 3 Circuit. There is a lot in that record."

"If you look at that record, you see a nominee who is no Justice Roberts."

"Even scholars who suppored Roberts have now said they do not support Judge Alito."

[Rainscents]

70. I know why Dems want to delay this!!!

The longer Dems delay this nominee, more people will learn about Alito and they will fight against Alito!!! Very smart move!!!

[dogday]

66. Giving Voice To The Power Of The American People

call everyone, call everyone you know!!!

[EFerrari]

69. We need to have a daily call in thread until the vote

to encourage people w/o burnthing them out.

Good luck to us!'

lol

[dogday]

72. A List of all US Senators and their phones

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

I am off to make some calls........

[EFerrari]

67. Henderson: "It is individuals calling, raising questions,

that will make the difference."

[CornField]

68. CSPAN showing highlights now

[EFerrari]

71. I'll have to get to work soon. Thanks, everyone!

:hi:

[in_cog_ni_to]

78. Bye!!!!

Have a great day at work!:hi: