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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 03:35 PM
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Want to stop a freeper dead in their tracks?
I have noticed on some of the forums (HuffPo etc) that some of the smart liberals when making comments will use the RW talking points against the cons. It is so funny; they don't know what to do.

Example: Use terms such as "you sound like a TRAITOR"

or "why do repubs HATE AMERICA so much?"

There are many more. Just use their "bumper sticker" comments and they go nuts.
:rofl:

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 03:37 PM
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 03:38 PM
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2. Have I told you I love you lately?
:rofl:
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 03:38 PM
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3. beat me to it (nt)
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 03:40 PM
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4. Freepers don't hate America...
they love America as fervently as we do. They just have a different version of what they want America to be. A VASTLY different version.

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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 03:50 PM
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8. You are missing the point. One of the freeper talking points to
Liberals is "why do you hate America so much?" Your comment illustrates how stupid this phrase is, but they still use it. So, throw it back at them? They don't like it.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 04:03 PM
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9. Different but not equal in worth. The cheap and nasty simulacrum
described so graphically by Hunter S Thompson.
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 04:10 PM
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10. They love their fantasy of what America is
Which is a completely different version from reality.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 04:12 PM
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11. What the hell is your sig pic?
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 04:14 PM
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12. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
Thank you.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 04:17 PM
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14. OH!!!
Now I get it! I was distracted by the balloon thing coming out of his chest.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 04:21 PM
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39. I was trying to figure out whether that was cheney.
Thanks for the explanation. D'OH!!!

Actually, in that context, it IS cheney.
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 04:20 PM
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15. My sig...
is Faye Valentine, a bounty huntress in the anime series "Cowboy BeBop." The perfect woman in my eyes, and since my divorce I am holding out for somene just like her. I won't settle for less, even if I remain single the rest of my life.

I have various versions of Fay Valentine as my sig or avatar on other sites across the internet. Mostly motorcycle boards is where I hang out. I lurk on FR and have had an account there for a while, but have less than 50 posts. Mostly on posts about motorcycles or guns.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 04:25 PM
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18. I hope you're being hypothetical because you'll never find
a real woman that looks like she's drawn. Women just aren't naturally proportioned that way.

Now, if you're talking about her attitude, then forgive me.
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 06:44 PM
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24. Faye Valentine...
Is beautiful, independent, smart and knows what she wants. She loves guns, fast vehicles and motorcycles. She does not have to look like she is drawn to me, but will hopefully have the other qualities.
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gmaki Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 04:48 PM
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20. What's your screename on FR?
Just curious
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 06:32 PM
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23. PJ Comix...
just kidding. :)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 07:11 PM
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27. Exactly! They don't live in
reality so what do they really love?
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 07:27 PM
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28. They love feeling as if they're part of the club...
Edited on Sun May-28-06 07:27 PM by johnfunk
... when in fact they're the meat puppets -- and part of the problem.

And when you turn their name-calling back on them -- especially if you put their patriotism and loyalty in question, what happens to them?



(I especially like that graphic because of the similarity of Mr. Explodey to FRee Republic's founder and arch-FRascist Jim "RimJob" Robinson.)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 07:30 PM
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29. He sure looks like
he founded freeperepub..talk about type casting!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 04:15 PM
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37. The neo-cons fold, because they have no original thoughts of
their own. Just resort to name-calling because they have NOTHING else. Remember, they don't deal w/ facts very well. It's too painful.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 04:15 PM
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13. Um... Yes They Do
They have a peculiar idea of what America is... Haven't you noticed how much the country has changed since they have been in power. If you call their actions love, I'd like to see them hate.
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 04:21 PM
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16. Like I said...
They love THIER version of America!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 04:24 PM
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17. Which Means They Hate America
at least the way it has been before they got into power.
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 06:30 PM
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22. They hate OUR America n/t
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 06:46 PM
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25. What is 'our ' America as opposed to theirs? I thought there was just one
Edited on Sun May-28-06 06:50 PM by Catrina
America. A couple of wars were fought to establish that. You seem to be saying there are two and that theirs isn't so bad, it's just that they hate 'the other' America and you seem to be sort of subtly justifying it. Forgive me if that doesn't make sense ~ maybe you can explain?
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:27 PM
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30. I am talking about their vision of America...
As opposed to ours.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 10:20 PM
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31. I'm very familiar with their 'vision' of America having spent about 3
Edited on Sun May-28-06 10:24 PM by Catrina
years arguing with them. They believe, even when presented with facts, lies told to them by the 'leader'. A leader who shreds the Constitution at every opportunity. Anyone who does not uphold the Constitution or who follows a leader who doesn't, hates what America is about.

The freepers I've had the dubious pleasure of conversing with (if you call name-calling and death threats conversing) do not even know the Consititution. They use talking points rather than think for themselves, thinking being a difficult process for most of them. When the talking points are easily shredded they revert to anger and frustration and childish attacks.

Their vision of America includes discrimination against many of their fellow Americans, and they hate with a passion those they have been taught to hate, which includes half the population of their own country and with a venom that exceeds even their hatred for the 'enemy', after years of 24/7 propaganda funnelled into their brains by hate radio, Fox news and the many memos from the RNC and other rightwing publications they receive in their inboxes daily.

Their vision of America in no way reflects the vision laid out by the Founding Fathers who would roll in their graves if they saw what has become of this country today.

You didn't actually explain what you meant as I requested, but you did in a way answer my question.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 05:02 PM
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21. Yeah and their version sucks!
:puke:
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 10:58 PM
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33. Why are you defending freepers??
:shrug:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 03:40 PM
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5. Damn! I hate to say it.
But I agree!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 03:41 PM
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 03:42 PM
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7. They are not used to self-criticism, so they're easy to blind-side with
their own words, especially since they contradict themselves at every turn.

That's part of what is so frustrating about them; you're dealing with people who don't care what the truth of a thing is, it's their own point-of-view that matters more than anything else, no matter whether it is valid or not. It isn't about reality. It's about them.
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RadiDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 04:38 PM
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19. "Cons care more about Iraq and Iraqis than America and Americans">>
Edited on Sun May-28-06 04:40 PM by RadiDem
Thus they are traitors.

Whenever I battle a con I argue this point, and how their willingness to spend Billion of dollars on Iraqis but not on America's neediest makes them "islamofascist supporting TRAITORS who care more about Iraq than America"! Then I tell them to get the fuck out of MY country where we put America and Americans first and move to Iraq.

IT DRIVES THEM NUTS!!!!!!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 04:17 PM
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38. Gotta remember that - it's good. nt
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 07:07 PM
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26. "Stuck on stupid, or a victim of homeschooling? Which is it?"
Edited on Sun May-28-06 07:08 PM by johnfunk
Works for me. Makes Freepi brains explode.

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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 10:22 PM
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32. I like to tell them...
they have an Old Testament approach to a New Testament world. And, they do.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 11:01 PM
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34. Freepers think words are magical and will cause an effect
in themselves - so they are awed when you don't react to being called a traitor and that makes you all the worse - but if you use it on them, then the magic is working against them.

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 11:10 PM
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35. Hollow-point bullets?
Oh. Wrong context.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 11:15 PM
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36. "But Clinton's not the President anymore, is he?
"And who's in charge of congress? And the Supreme Court?"

While Faux news tries to belabor this point ("What are the Democrats doing now to destroy America? Special Report at six o'clock!"), most people, even Freeps, don't fall for it.
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