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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 10:59 PM
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Is it a sin to lie?
How Pat Robertson Leg Pressed 2,000 Pounds

Pat Robertson worked out at the gym on an incline leg press machine with weights up to 570 pounds. Working with his physician, who was an amazing strength trainer, he worked up to 800 pounds, then 1,000 pounds. Then one day he was able to leg press 1,500 pounds one time. Then over the succeeding months, he trained with multiple reps of 1,200 pounds, 1,300 pounds, and 1,400 pounds.

One Saturday morning, his physician said, “I’ll get you bragging rights. Let’s go to 2,000 pounds.” Then he worked up multiple reps of 1,400 pounds, 1,500 pounds, 1,600 pounds, 1,700, pounds, 1,800 pounds and 1,900 pounds. When 2,000 pounds was put on the machine two men got on either side and helped push the load up, and then let it down on Mr. Robertson, who pushed it up one rep and let it go back down again.

Mr. Robertson warms up now at 500 pounds, and was shown on television with Kristi Watts doing 1000 pounds.

His doctor, by the way, has leg pressed 2,700 pounds. It is not nearly as hard as the authors of these reports make it out to be. We have multiple witnesses to the 2,000 pound leg press, plus video of the 10 reps of 1,000 pounds.

http://www.cbn.com/communitypublic/legpress_explanation.asp
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:09 PM
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1. I think the real question is,
How many pounds could Jesus press?

How about Mohammed?

Gandi?

No, Bhudda. I think Bhudda was a situp man.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:11 PM
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2. What brand of weight bar are they using that a) has room for all those
Edited on Thu May-25-06 11:12 PM by lindisfarne
rings and 2) won't bend in half under that much weight? (has anyone brought in a scale? will he do this in front of the governator and jessie "the mind" ventura, who can act as verifiers?)

The man is highly delusional - that's all I can say.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:12 PM
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There is a video link at this site:
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:13 PM
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7. Someone (not me!) register on cbn and get the shake recipe!
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deFaultLine Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:22 AM
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16. Shakes?
It's just safflower oil and soy protein, too high in omega-6 fatty acids if you ask me. Guaranteed to make your brain all fuzzy and screwed up. You need omega-3 fatty acids to make a healthy brain.

Weight loss it will give you, but a poorly run brain is a formula for disaster.
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wizdum Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:12 PM
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3. That depends on the nature of the situation and circumstances involved
If someone has a gun to your head and asks you to tell them the sky is yellow, when it is blue, then a lie is not a sin. However, if you steal from your neighbor, then lie to them about the theft, it is a sin.

I don't think that Pat Robertson is as strong as he claims. In fact I think he is a weak minded individual who lies to himself often. That's the worst kind of liar, IMO.
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:12 PM
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4. I'll be impressed when
he can hang 2,000 pounds from his balls.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:13 PM
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5. lol
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:15 PM
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8. Or his hemorrhoids. n/t
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sheelz Donating Member (869 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:21 PM
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12. He would make that a paid-per-view event.
He should shave his ass first.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:13 PM
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6. I can leg press 50 tons.
If the lever is long enough.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:19 PM
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10. I haven't used that machine but I don't think he was going the full
range; he was only bending his a small amount and used his hands on his legs to start the motion (assuming the weight was anything near what he claimed it was). http://www.cbn.com/communitypublic/shake.asp has the video.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:41 PM
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14. From what I could see, the weights were on a 45 degree or so
incline which cuts the vertical 'weight' at least in half. And they moved a couple inches...but it's all bullshit marketing for his magic milkshake crap in any case. There may very well be magnets involved...nothing that sonofabitch ever did was real or honest.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 12:25 AM
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18. see msg #17; FSU football player record 1335 lb
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:16 PM
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9. Yeah, it is
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:20 PM
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11. only if it's about sex and you're a democrat
otherwise lie away, whoppers, humdingers,
its a lying free-for-all. In fact, I think if you do
it well you even win prizes or something.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 11:33 PM
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13. good point
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 12:04 AM
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15. no, I mean yes
:dilemma:
Lies are sins, wait, no they're not.
uh
YES, yes they are.
Sometimes.

Pat like his medicine a lot. Good medicine, good voices. Niiiiice.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 12:24 AM
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17. leg-press record for football players at FSU 1335 lb
According to the CBN Web site, Robertson worked his way up to lifting a ton with the help of his physician, who is not named. The posting does not say when the lift occurred, but a CBN spokeswoman released photos to The Associated Press that she said showed Robertson lifting 2,000 pounds in 2003, when Robertson was 73. He is now 76.

The Web posting said two men loaded the leg-press machine with 2,000 pounds "and then let it down on Mr. Robertson, who pushed it up one rep and let it go back down again." The Web site said several people witnessed the event, and shows video of Robertson leg-pressing what appears to be 1,000 pounds.

Clay Travis of CBS SportsLine.com called the 2,000-pound assertion impossible in a column this week, writing that the leg-press record for football players at Florida State University is 665 pounds less.

"Where in the world did Robertson even find a machine that could hold 2,000 pounds at one time?" Travis asked.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2006/05/26/national/a134651D47.DTL&type=printable
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 05:28 AM
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19. Names and pics of people who can leg press 2000 lbs.
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