Remember: We're the mainstream; they're the lunatic fringe (add links)

[Bossy Monkey]

I'm living in Lexington County SC now, which if I recall correctly is one of the three most Republican counties in the country. So imagine my surprise as I'm driving into the town of Lexington and see a largish "US-OUT" banner in front of a small United Methodist church. I subsequently looked up the church's website, thinking that they might be a sort of small-town substitute for a UU congregation, but no, they're just a regular UMC, fairly new but not out of step or anything. (I didn't bookmark the site, but trust me that it was only interesting in that it wasn't very interesting, ie, no wild-eyed radicals.) And it turns out that the UMC has come out emphatically against the war. They have been consistent on this since before the invasion began: http://gbgm-umc.org/global_news/full_article.cfm?articleid=1405
Their stance has been echoed by the World Alliance of Reformed Churches: http://www.warc.ch/update/up122/index.html (US members include United Church of Christ and Presbyterian Church (USA)).

The point to all this is how easy it is to forget that we're not alone. Demonized by the mis- mal- and non-administration and ignored by the mainstream media, we can feel like the marginalized moonbats the freepers paint us as. You know in your heart that we are the majority, you grasp it intellectually but it's easy to be so blinded, even here, by the Foxization of the corporate media that you can be surprised, like I was, by seeing a US-OUT banner in front of a mainline Protestant church.

Kindly add links for other very mainstream-type groups either opposed to the war or other aspects of the junta's activities. They don't have to be churches necessarily; it's just that since the right has made such progress convincing the country at large that they and religion are coterminous, it's especially fun to show this idea for the horsepoop that it is. Also denominations allow you to add membership numbers to underscore the numbers of people we're talking about. I think I can handle the first three...

[Bossy Monkey]

1. UMC, 8.6 million in the US per Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Methodist_Church

[Bossy Monkey]

2. PC (USA) 2.4 million members (ditto)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presbyterian_Church_USA

[Bossy Monkey]

3. UCC, 1.3 million (ditto)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Church_of_Christ

[jsamuel]

4. thanks for the info :)

[jukes]

5. the tide is turning

hopefully it won't take the ten years (actually 20, but most of america doesn't realize we had troops there in '55) that it took to disentangle from viet nam.

[Bossy Monkey]

6. You're right of course, but my point was that the tide was already turned

Some Americans are deluded and some are disenfranchised (both transitive verbs; this was done to them) but the people who were against this war from the beginning were not just the millions in the streets worldwide trying to prevent it in the winter of '03. Nice, boring, mainline Protestant sects, just for example, opposed the war and oppose the junta. We are the majority; the fact that they have stolen, hornswoggled, diluted or mechanically changed our votes doesn't change this. The fact that they control the media and can lie with impunity doesn't either.

Regardless, you're definitely right, and thanks for kicking my thread.:hi:

[Bossy Monkey]

7. What the heck... Sierra Club, 750,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Club (Heck, I thought it was gazillions.)

[Bossy Monkey]

8. See DU front page for UMC leader calling for impeachment

Wild-eyed radicals!:D