Media talking about DNC's defense that NO DEMS REC'D ABRAMOFF MONEY?

[blm]

Dean said it loud and clear and sent the statement and research to all the news outlets.

Can you count on one hand how many of the broadcast news shows have corrected their past stories or even altered the existing storyline? How many are still saying that BOTH parties got Abramoff's money?

I saw ONE article based on Dean's appearance slapping down Wolf Blitzer with the truth.

ONE.

The media has no intention of letting the truth come out until the people are completely confused and stop listening.

This is what they do.

They did it to Clinton on impeachment and the trashing of the WH story. They did it to Gore with the claims of lying. They did it AGAIN to Clinton for 9-11. They did it to Dean with the scream. They did it to Kerry with the Swiftlies. They are doing it now to the Dem party with Abramoff. Hell, they're blaming Mrs. Alito's crying on the Democrats, fer chrissakes.

Have you ever seen the reverse happen? Has a Republican ever been slammed and raked over the coals for days and weeks with something that wasn't true?

Not that I have ever seen - not by the media.

Unless we expose the GOP control over the broadcast media, this same crap will happen AGAIN and AGAIN. EVERY Democrat gets this treatment. Don't focking kid yourselves. If they stuck their neck out far enough - the media would be there to make sure they came out with their ears boxed.

[1620rock]

1. Yes, I am soooo sick of the MSM ...what pukes!!!

[Ksec]

2. Ive already sent out my emails to them

about this.

Silence
Nary a peep. (crickets chirping)

Keep hammerin' blm. I will.

[AndyTiedye]

6. Which Will No Doubt Inspire The Presstitutes to Increase Their Efforts

Ive already sent out my emails to them

That will likely inspire the presstitutes to crank up the propaganda another notch.

[blm]

10. I've been fighting this media since impeachment. It just gets worse.

I thought Katrina finally blew some sense back into the whole industry - Bush was BAD for the country. But, these fascists are dug in and they're not budging, so the media is used against the only ones standing in their way still and that's us - Democrats.

[AndyTiedye]

14. I Need to Get More Of These Printed Up

[PassingFair]

31. And it doesn't help...

that we have turncoat dems ready and willing to dance in front of the cameras for money.

[mzmolly]

3. K & R

Sad but true. I've not seen a word.

[blm]

4. See, it's never gonna be about the ONE candidate who can reach the people.

It doesn't matter what is said or WHO says it. It's what the media DOES WITH WHAT IS SAID. It's what the media DOES WITH ACTIONS TAKEN.

Dean did exactly what was needed, yet what are the results?

[Straight Shooter]

5. "yet what are the results?"

Dean gave us the power to shout it from the mountaintop, no Dem took a cent, not one red cent, not one thin dime, this is a Republican scandal.

Dean gave us the power of the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. We can give it all we've got in our everyday conversations, in our e-mails, in our phone calls and letters to the media, in our letters to editors, we can draw that line in the sand and never back down because this is a Republican scandal.

Power. The power of truth is on our side, and Dean gave it to us. The Dems are loaded for bear.

[AndyTiedye]

7. But The Media Has The Power...

...to refuse to print all our LTTEs, and throw away our emails, and otherwise pretend we don't exist.

They can hire actors to do their "man-in-the-street" interviews with if they have to.
They probably are doing this already.

[ProfessorGAC]

23. Well, I've Seen LTTE's in Chicago

Specifically clarifying that DEMS did not take money from Smilin' Jack! So, if they're using the power to conceal the truth in LTTE's, somebody forgot to send the memo to the third largest metro area in the country.
The Professor

[blm]

25. Main concern for me is broadcast media - That's where lies travel fast

and facts are left behind. That's the system that advantages the GOP machine, since they are fueled by lies.

[ProfessorGAC]

27. I Know

Andy mentioned LTTE's and i just wanted him to know that in a major market there is no shortage of truth telling letters in the major papers.
The Professor

[blm]

28. Shame is that it's becoming our ONLY resort.

DSM redux.

[blm]

9. We all knew that. The point was that MEDIA is not changing the storyline.

We have all been saying what Dean said, before and after he said it, the donation records were clear.

Dean delivered the truth beautifully.

The MEDIA is not repeating the truth - the MEDIA is not discussing the FACTS that the DNC(Dean) is pointing out to them.

We will do everything we do - the point is that the media is showing their antiDem bias more than ever BECAUSE the GOP is in a jam right now. The facts are there and they REFUSE to use them.

Just like the DSM.

[Straight Shooter]

16. We can keep pushing back.

Yes, the media is being totally irresponsible. Let's hope that by November, the evidence will be so overwhelming that the citizens of this country will be aware of the truth. If more Repubs are taken down by the Abramoff scandal, it's going to be very difficult to whitewash that, no matter how hard CNN tries.

[blm]

17. Well hell, SS - you know I'm not gonna stop pushing. That's what these

posts are for. ;)

Pushing these points over and over till more and more see the truth and maybe pass it through a microphone....preferably one that's turned on.

Thanks for being there, too. ;)

[Straight Shooter]

19. Yeah.

I'm getting to be borderline belligerent about this Abramoff/Republican scandal when it comes to people who think Dems are involved. You know what the damn thing is? People readily believe it because politicans have been corrupt for as long as they can remember. What they don't grasp is that politicians have rarely been as steeped in the filth of corruption as our current Republican politicians.

Maybe the Dems need to start their own Pony Express, or, in this case, Donkey Express, and just start delivering flyers door-to-door about the Abramoff/Republican scandal. Like a political campaign. Hmmm ....

[Catrina]

21. Donkey express!! That's a great idea!

I tell everyone I know. We need to get the list of donors printed out and leave it around, headed with Republican Scandal have it handy for when someone says 'but I thought it was both parties'. Also the list of indictments, arrests, convictions of Republican criminals. We should be armed with the proof and ready to produce it.

Send it in the mail, email it to friends and let them email to their lists. We have no media. I turned it off a week ago and I don't miss it at all. I'm saving money also, and can use that for stamps.

I finally realized, those phony, made-up talking heads are all working for the neocons. Chris Matthews, Tim Russert, all of them. I used to hope I'd hear the real news, then get disappointed. That was wasted time. NOW, like the people in the Soviet Union, I know we will never hear one fraction of the truth on US media.

A priority should be to take back the media. Before anything else. To begin that process, everyone needs to cancel, en masse, their cable subscriptions. Boycott their advertisers.

Never mind peace marches. They are ignored anyway. Put all the same effort into starting a multi-million person cancellation of TV fees, and boycots, tons of boycotts, until they all go out of business, or fire the Tweetys and Russerts.

Just think. If millions of us, all those who voted against Bush, and those who did, but are now sorry, pooled all the money we now spend to watch their lies, we could buy our own media.

Once we accomplish that, we will never again have an administration like this. That's where I think we need to focus all our efforts. Cutting them financially. We've been focused on the wrong thing, imo.

I remember reading that the slaughter in Rwanda would not have happened were it not for hate radio. If someone had bombed that radio, the genocide could have been prevented. We can vote, and march and write letters all we want, but as long as the propaganda machine is in their hands, it's all a waste of time. TAKE BACK THE MEDIA!

[druidity33]

33. guerrilla style...

I've also been trying to think out of the box on this... this... everything. Pamphlets have gone away, but i think they can make a comeback. A collection of fact oriented stories (of the "Did you know that...") of Republican corruption, indexed with website resources and an Action list. A couple of charts/graphs (say outlining the Abramoff web, %repubs indicted vs. Dems, etc), something simple enough to understand that applies the appropriate amount of outrage with the stats and resources to back it up... something we can distribute as a PDF to local activists... layed out properly we could make it pocket sized and cheap. How else can we BE THE MEDIA?

Any other ideas folks? Anyone have story suggestions (good outlines... think Cliffs Notes of corruption)? Advice if i decide to take this on?


...little bathroom stickers...

[blm]

22. WOW. That's one of the best ideas I've heard in ages.

.

[Straight Shooter]

24. Thanks. It's got a nice ring to it, doesn't it?

All we need to do is distribute flyers. We've got to keep the language calm, but forceful, just like Dean did when interviewed by Wolf. Stick to the facts, as with bullet points outlining each one.

I'm going to let this one simmer in my mind a bit, because we'll have more ammunition when the Abramoff/Republican Scandal begins to take on more momentum. You know more about campaigns than I do. Would 8 weeks before the election be about the right time? People will have their kids back in school, back to the normal routine.

Heh. I just thought of something. If we call it the Abramoff/Republican Scandal Education, the acronym would be ARSE. Oh, Lord ...

[blm]

29. You should formalize it into a thread suggesting all you said.

It would certainly get more eyeballs than the middle of one of my threads - heh - I might hold the record here for number of ignore lists I'm on. ;)))))))

Good luck. I'll kick it for you.

[Straight Shooter]

35. Thanks.

It will take me a while to figure this one out, so there is a more cohesive plan of action that I can formulate. I might even write Howard Dean about this. The Dems have a bit of time to coordinate. Maybe I should contact the DU Activist Corps, too.

I went on my hike today and I was thinking how bush just never stops campaigning. That's his "strength." Rove likes to take a political opponent's strength and turn it into a weakness. Maybe the Dems should never stop campaigning, either, at least not at the grassroots level. There is too much at stake. I'm literally heartsick about Alito.

Anyone who puts you on Ignore is missing some vital input from a valuable member of DU. What did you do, hurt someone's feelings? :7

[blm]

40. It's a little thing some of us call

the primaries.

[Straight Shooter]

44. Heh.

I remember them well. ;)

[mzmolly]

15. Fully agree, which is why Dean said he planned to break up the media

monopoly just before they deemed him "unelectable."

[Catherine Vincent]

8. What about keith?

Did me mention it on his show? Although he doesn't really have to, he's not one of the idiots saying that both parties received money from Republican Lobbyist Abramoff.

[blm]

11. Keith and what army? That's our problem.

Keith provides us with the barest nourishment. Like the whiffs of fresh air from AAR compared to the never-ending windstorm of the RW radio.

Not enough to keep democracy alive, but just enough for us to think we stand a chance.

We HAVE TO DO SOMETHING QUICK TO EXPOSE THESE BASTARDS.

[Octafish]

12. The first to communicate is at the advantage -- more brains remember.

When someone first lies in a communication (Saddam did 9-11), it becomes harder for those telling the truth to burrow in and "right" the mind.

Thus the Reich always is first to smear and spin.

Dems should've wised up to this by now.

[blm]

13. Dems can only do it with a news network willing to let truth be heard.

These networks need a spotlight shone on them and there is no big movement in the Dem party to do that.

The media is the ONLY reason BushInc is getting away with everything they do.

[cascadiance]

32. We need to petition the cable companies to put on Link TV or FSTV

I feel so glad that I have satellite TV to get this along with Democracy Now, etc. Perhaps now is the time to get really active of threatening cable companies that they need to pick up at least one of these channels or you're getting Satellite. Dish Network is preferred of course, as it is more blue and offers both channels, whereas DirectTV is partly owned by NewsCorp (Fox) and only has LinkTV.

Amy Goodman is SO excellent on Democracy Now, just what MSM is missing now. What's really needed is to get them more viewers and contributors so that they can expand beyond just the fixed morning show and get a few more folks like Amy Goodman to have content 24x7, or at least be able to break in to regular LinkTV or FSTV programming with special reports when things happen.

If we craft an activist campaign to put pressure on the folks at Adelphia and other cable companies to add this channel, perhaps that's a battle we can win before 2008 (maybe even 2006, though that's doubtful at this point).

Democracy Now has come such a long way since the "fall" of the rest of the MSM. Let's help it rise some more!

[Straight Shooter]

20. A lie travels halfway around the world

while truth is still putting on its shoes.

Famous saying, and absolutely dead-on.

[rman]

26. rebuttal is harder still if it gets no platform

so much for the 'liberal media'

[seabeyond]

18. we get it for "making" some woman cry. SAY WHAT

like we are not even suppose to ask about strip searching a ten year old girl. bad dems, bad. you are right blm

[Nothing Without Hope]

30. I think the Wash Post's article and especially the graphic, published

December 12 (and so predating the recent storm of "bipartisan corruption" spin), has caused even HONEST people to believe that the Democrats received a lot of money from Abramoff. No doubt this graphic has been passed around thousands of offices as "proof" that the Democrats are guilty. Irresponsible and inaccurate journalism, or deliberate propaganda? See for yourself below - for myself, I see it as a deliberate starting salvo to defend the corrupt Repubs with spin.

The sly wording in the caption, "contributions by Abramoff, his clients and the lobbyists that make up Team Abramoff," with Abramoff's picture prominently above all the graphs, implying everything is under his guidance and influence. I know I interpreted this as all money FROM ABRAMOFF and thought we were in big trouble. The Wash Post must have pleased their sleazy GOP masters with this masterful effort.

Here it is, from the December 12 Washington Post and surely still being passed around as "proof" in Washington and elsewhere:


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

[blm]

34. WaPost is always there to protect the Bushboy.

They are sickening.

[burythehatchet]

46. This is precisely the same slight of hand that

Ms. Candy used on CNN today. It is, after all, the most trusted name in news.

[sandnsea]

36. No echo chamber

Too many who are covering their own ass instead of creating a united front. Wouldn't want to walk in lock step or anything.

[greiner3]

37. And I thought that MSM only told the truth;

:sarcasm:

[Dr Fate]

38. Who is stopping Kerry, Hillary, Reid & Obama from going on shows...

...and repeating what Dean said?

Why do you constantly insist that GOP owned "journalists" do the job of our Top Democrats?????

Since when is it the job of the GOP owned media to repeat talking points that favor Democrats?

Last time I checked, that was the job of our own leadership.

[blm]

41. It's the JOB of journalists to REPORT FACTS. Dems need to EXPOSE the GOP

control over this nation's news media.

No media should repeat talking points with no fact finding of their own. The repeating of only GOP talking points proves the media is working for the GOP agenda.

Dems need to get on any show they can to back up Dean's statements.

I'd like to see Dean get back on more shows.

[Dr Fate]

42. Wrong, their job is to sell commercials and protect Bush & corporations.

When are the top-Demcratic leaders going to get that fact straight?

[blm]

43. Of course I am wrong - I was explaining REAL news media.

You know what's really weird lately, Doc.

It doesn't even seem the media is even SLIGHTLY TRYING to hide their bias against Dems anymore the past few weeks. It's as if the Abramoff scandal is making them work even harder against Dems to cover for the enormity of the damage for GOPs.

[Dr Fate]

45. You are right- and sorry for being snippy- I'm just as frustrated as you.

I maintain that the DEM leaders with media access need to bluntly call them on it, to their faces, and be prepared with a list of examples of stories they ignored, omitted or lied about.

If they are being "banned" or edited, then they need to talk about it on Air America or in Op-Eds in friendly news papers and start documenting this.

[Nothing Without Hope]

39. The GOP lie about Dems being equally guilty is in editorial cartoons too:

A web site is given in this cartoon, www.gorrellart.com. Maybe we should educate them! Too bad it's already been carried in who knows how many newspapers.