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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:34 PM
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Will somebody explain how Bush expects the USA to pay off its....
Edited on Thu May-18-06 12:38 PM by wake.up.america
debts? What is his public position? Lower taxes generate more spending by rich people?

The rich are getting another huge tax cut!

I'm lost!
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:36 PM
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1. Print money 24/7/365
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 01:02 PM
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16. Already have plans to outsource the printing of that money
in the event bird flu stops the presses here. Seriously. They are gonna print our currency elsewhere if things get bad enough.

So, America, do you feel safer knowing the plates to print our cash could be sent overseas? Guess we don't have enough problems with counterfeit money already.
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:52 AM
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25. I hadn't heard about this!
Print our money overseas!
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:21 AM
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28. "Print our money overseas!" Why not? They own more of this
nation than we do at this point. Let's just eliminate the "middle man"... :sarcasm:
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:31 PM
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29. Good point
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:30 PM
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31. google: bird flu + printing money overseas
Results: about 462,000 for bird flu + printing money overseas. (0.96 seconds)

Another hair-brained idea from the folks who ate cake while NOLA went underwater

By Nedra Pickler, AP 04/17/06 7:53 AM PT

amazed it wasn't on the news much?

The response plan, assembled by the president's Homeland Security Council, lays out who should be the first vaccinated, proposes that other countries make U.S. money if domestic locations cannot operate. The plan anticipates that employees could strain Internet capacity while working from home computers.

...

Federal officials say the first case of bird flu could show up in the United States in the coming weeks or months as birds migrate from overseas. President Bush is expected to approve a national response plan in the next week or two laying out how agencies should respond if it were transmitted to humans.

The plan assumes a worst-case scenario that as many as 90 million people in the U.S. would become sick and 2 million would die during a worldwide flu pandemic.

It envisions people may need to avoid human contact and stay home from work, school and other large gathering places, according to officials familiar with draft. Some details of the draft, first in Sunday's Washington Post, were confirmed by officials at the White House who spoke anonymously because the plan has not been finalized.


Are we safer yet? :scared:
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Options Remain Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:36 PM
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2. simple chapter 7 the country
and sell of its assetts to the highets bidder.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:37 PM
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3. Answer: Put the Democrats in charge
Bush is already crossing off days on his calendar before he can permanently clear brush. He doesn't care.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:40 PM
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22. yup. Then when dems raise taxes to save our economy the
republicans will use that as an issue for the next election. The dopes who weren't paying attention will fall for it - again.
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rpgamerd00d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:38 PM
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4. Pay? I thought this here little plastic credit card meant it was free!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:38 PM
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5. Not his problem....future generations...He could care less about me or you
I take that back he does care to know our phone numbers, e-mail addresses etc,etc,etc,
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:39 PM
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6. If there were no taxes, the government would be flush with cash!
Yeah- that makes sense!
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BeachBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:40 PM
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7. Simple. Just tell them "screw you" we're not paying you!
Whacha gonna do about it? Huh? Thats the Bush plan.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:40 PM
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8. Again we all know deficits don't matter.
Geez.:wtf:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:40 PM
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9. Not a problem.
The rapture will be the ultimate Jubilee year when all debts are forgiven - the faithful will go away and the rest of us will get what we deserve.

I want a reset button.
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riona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:54 PM
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24. I was sitting here really thinking about the
deficit problem - and then I read your post! Whew! I forgot about the Rapture. We're outta here!
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:42 PM
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10. The GOP doesn't care.
They'll wait until the Democrats are in power and when the Democrats raise taxes to pay off the debts the GOP has run up they'll bring up the old "tax & spend" meme. Party of responsibility my ass!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:45 PM
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11. The GLOBAL FASCISTS made certain the US would be in debt. Bush is not
Edited on Thu May-18-06 12:47 PM by blm
loyal to America - he's loyal to the small cabal of international financiers who really run this world - and Poppy Bush set up a few Chinese industrialists in the 70s to complete the final takeover - you think WalMart's rise then and their deals with those Chinese industrialists was just a coincidence?

You think our debt, much of it owed to China is just a coincidence?

Track back to BCCI and the ruling characters involved there, and then add Chinese industrialists to that mix - there's your global fascist network.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:46 PM
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12. There's some goofy strategy to this.
And it's twofold:

First, Bush and his ilk believe that by cutting taxes, the economy will be so stimulated that business income will rise, causing a similar amount of revenue to be generated, even with a lowered tax rate.

Secondly, even if the revenue doesn't rise, he believes that there are a lot of programs we shouldn't be funding anyway. So if we manufacture a budget crisis, it makes it easier to cut these programs. Especially with Repugs in charge.

Of course, in reality, this Voodoo Economics doesn't actually work. Partly because Bush can't stay out of expensive wars long enough to get our expenditures under some hint of control - causing the gov't to - as another poster put it - print cash 24/7/365. Which leads to what, class? Class? Inflation! Yes, very good.

And so, for the first quarter of 2006, we see inflation at 5.1% !!!! Yikes! Bad for economy! Bad inflation! Inflation make home loan costs soar! Inflation make people no buy homes. Homebuilders go belly up! Inflation make people no buy expensive items which generate sales tax for cities and counties! Cities and counties cut back on services. People get mad and vote out incumbents.

Well, you can figure out the rest. We've all seen it before - well, at least those of us in our 40s.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:48 PM
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13. He doesn't
It's very simple, he doesn't expect the US to pay it's debts or rather, he doesn't care either way. Remember his line about the future: "we'll all be dead"? That's his rationale, if it happens after he leaves office, it's not his problem. That's why he doesn't care about wrecking the enviroment, starting two wars (three once the inevitible war with Iran starts), etc, etc; because he could not give two about anything beyond 2008 (assuming he actually leaves office then, I have my suspicians about that one).
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 01:23 PM
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20. But....But.....But.....There's The Constitution.....
Isn't there an ammendment which limits a president to 2 terms? Ummmmm......that's the law, right?

Take off your tin-foil hat, or people will think weird things about you.

BTW, I figure if he has thought of a way to stay in power past '08, he will attempt it.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:37 PM
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21. I hate that
The tin-foil hat thing. All someone has to do is label something a conspiracy theory and everyone starts ignoring evidence or plausability. Conspiracies happen. Watergate was a conspiracy, Iran-Contra was a conspiracy, every coup in a third-world nation is, by definition, a conspiracy. There's a good deal of evidence that the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen by a conspiracy.

We know that Bush has investigated the possibility of postponing elections before. He doesn't have to declare himself dictator for life, he just has to ensure that his term doesn't end. Say there's some kind of crisis (real, exagerated or just manufactured), Bush announces that elections will be postponed until the crisis is over. The 30% left would support him if he buggered a chimp on the Whitehouse lawn so they aren't a problem, plenty of people to be adoring supporters during a press conference. Of course, the crisis can be spun out or if that doesn't work, another crisis can be found. In fact, so long as he claims to be saving America from the demonic liberals and guarding national security, the 30% will always support him.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:49 PM
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23. I Do Agree With You
They've stolen at least 2 elections, without batting an eye, and I do not put it past them to try again. He is King george after all, and he thinks of his thrown as some sort of birthright.
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:57 PM
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14. He doesn't...you think he cares about what happens to this country?
That was a figurative "you."
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:58 PM
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15. As far as bu$h and regime are concerned - It is not their problem
When they are thrown out of office, any president for the foreseeable future will be strapped with the legacy left by bu$h. A huge insurmountable DEBT!
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 01:08 PM
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17. Child labor
Coal mines are coming back fast with the price of oil rising so fast. Them 10 year olds fit better into mines. And it will give them a 12 year head start on paying taxes. Get their parents poor enough, and the little buggers will be hacking away for $3 an hour, if the mining companies want to pay that much.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 01:09 PM
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18. He doesn't care. He got his. - n/t
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 01:11 PM
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19. Sell off parts of the USA
Hawaii? The bidding starts @ 250 billion
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:04 AM
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26. Totally not his problem as he sees it. Pass it on to others. nt
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WestSeattle2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:07 AM
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27. Story of his life: create a mess and leave it for others to clean up
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 04:03 PM
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34. Absolutely, failed business after business, arrests, drug busts, hookers..
you name it.....
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:34 PM
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30. Why should he care? He'll be long gone & benefitting from his tax cuts.
He's happy as a clam.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:33 PM
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32. Tax Cuts.
It's his answer to everything.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 01:39 PM
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33. Rapture's coming; who cares
Same thing with climate change.

I'm serious.

I don't know if W himself feels that way honestly (I've never really bought his Jesus schtick) but a lot of his base does really believe that: we're in End Times so running up the national credit card bill is OK.
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