Well, Flight 93 didn't exactly set the box office afire, did it?

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http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=united93.htm

[savemefromdumbya]

1. kind of fiction

[IndyOp]

2. $25 million isn't doing well... Whoa. What a world.

That is over 3,000,000 people who saw the movie... :(

So why can't we raise $25 million per week for the Katrina survivors? For our schools? For a Department of Peace?

[Bill McBlueState]

5. $25 million

would buy each of the nation's schoolchildren a pencil, if you got a good bulk rate.

[IndyOp]

9. Per week -- I said 'per week'...

that would be 1,300,000,000 per year. That would buy a few pencils.

I do get your meaning that $25 million is a drop in the bucket.

I'm still ticked off that, while Bill Clinton refused to lift economic sanctions in Iraq while 100,000's of people died from lack of medicines, clean water, and food -> he kept blaming Hussein by saying that Hussein was wasting money on palaces. Right. One $100 million palace would provide $4 of food for each Iraqi. Not really going to help much over an 8 year period.

:(

[Warpy]

12. Funny thing about all those palaces

I remember reading about them when the war was first "won." It appears that the construction had been more or less finished, but none of them had ever been furnished, let alone occupied.

They were just busy work programs to keep Iraqi contractors occupied and Iraqi people working.

Unlike the US, where they're trying to throw us all out of work so we'll be grateful for starvation wages.

[IndyOp]

20. Warpy, I love you...

I did not know that. :hug:

[Clark2008]

7. We don't serve over-priced popcorn and jumbo JuJu beans, maybe?

:shrug:

[displacedtexan]

10. It cost $15 million to make.

Look at the info. Production cost is there.

[SaveElmer]

3. Not surprising...

It was simply too soon for a movie like that...no one wants to relive that so quickly

[W_HAMILTON]

4. I was wondering why this didn't get more press

I caught this as a blurb on some news show recently, and it was said as an after-thought. Considering the media loves to point out that if a movie doesn't do 100 million its first weekend, then it is a "backlash" from middle America against the Hollywood elite, you would think the fact that this movie did so poorly would have made more news than a 3-second "oh by the way" blurb.

[MADem]

17. Probably7 because the movie got more FREE PRESS prior to the

opening than it deserved. Virtually every news show had a blurb about it, and some went fairly in depth.

My take...TOO DAMN SOON. But then again, I think it's too soon to dramatize the Kennedy assassination, and I've finally gotten over Lincoln reenactments!

[W_HAMILTON]

19. Yeah, I agree

I can't recall seeing too many commericals for it, but I remember hearing something about it on all the major news stations, covering it as a news story. Many of the networks had interviews with the family members of those that died on board the plane.

But that should make it even more common sense that they would have at least talked a little about how poorly it did, like I said, they have no issues criticizing all the other openings of the big Hollywood movies. So why not this one? Maybe they didn't want to point it out and have people criticize them for being anti-USA or something, who knows?

[racaulk]

6. I didn't really expect it to do that well.

Three reasons I thought so:

1. I don't think there were as many advertisements for it in the media (as opposed to Stick It, RV, Scary Movie 4, MI:3, etc.).
2. Its release wasn't as widespread as the Hollywood blockbusters--just compare the theater count to the other Top 10 movies.
3. I think there is a sense of general apathy among Americans, you know, that it's too soon to see a movie like that or whatever...

It's too bad, really. I think this movie could have had a lot of potential.

[bbinacan]

23. I saw it and I'm glad I did but

I have no desire to see it again. The movie does a good job of portraying the chaos.

[Bad Penny]

8. The hollywood/government shills have been busy

pumping it on the Internet Movie Database (IMDB). Look it up. It was in the top 250 movies of all time list when I checked the other night.

[Cruzan]

11. I enjoyed it

Mainly for all the geeky air traffic control talk which is like three quarters of the movie. If you're the type who liked the original 1970 Airport movie because it was very accurate in the technicalities of commercial aviation then I think you'll love United 93. It's that kind of movie minus the sappy melodrama of parts of Airport. United 93 is very much just a replay of the events of 9/11 from the perspective of the ATC, the air force east coast defense force, and flight 93 itself. It never gets preachy, patriotic, or attempts to score any political points. It's pretty dispassionate in those regards, so those watching and trying to keep a mental left-right scorecard will be disappointed.

[bullimiami]

14. if it was from the perspective of the atc how did they explain destroying

all of the atc tapes?

[NYCGirl]

16. It's my impression that the film ends with the plane crashing — they

wouldn't even get to the matter of the tapes.

[pretzel4gore]

15. problem is, it wasn't hijacked

the problem is, the criminal organization who stole the usa presidency needed a 'new pearl harbour' event to transform america while the demographics still allowed it, clinton showed them their time was neearly up - the seizure of power is a fact. the whole 911 thing was a staged fx movie type media black operation, carried out after careful planning and united 93 is part of the con.....them poor people were murdered by bushinc. believe it or not.

[flyarm]

18. i wouldn't watch that trash!! tell me did any of the passengers go out on

the wing and knock the engine off that aircraft???

no i didn't think so....

so how did that engine get off that wing 8 miles before the crash site??

i think this is an extremely dangerous film with no facts involved..its fantasy!

pure unadulterated fantasy..

its all improv of bullshit!..and i would bet none of the actors said ..oh shit the engine was just blown off!!

and furthermore..at the speed and the altitude of any aircraft that would ( which i don't believe it did) but if it would have hit that spot in shanksville..the negative g's and the spin and out of control altitude that plane would have been in.. the passengers would have been chopped meat if they were up and about in that cabin!

they would have been thrown around and their bodies would have reacted like bullets smashing the bulkheads..and seat backs and their bodies would have been broken apart...

i don't want to seem so graphic..but thats the truth!

from a retired flight attendant for one of the 2 airlines involved.

fly

[Cruzan]

30. Would be interested in your sources on this

how did that engine get off that wing 8 miles before the crash site??

I didn't know one of the engines was found 8 miles before the crash site. Do you have a link for this?

at the speed and the altitude of any aircraft that would ( which i don't believe it did) but if it would have hit that spot in shanksville..the negative g's and the spin and out of control altitude that plane would have been in.. the passengers would have been chopped meat if they were up and about in that cabin!

they would have been thrown around and their bodies would have reacted like bullets smashing the bulkheads..and seat backs and their bodies would have been broken apart...

Are you saying the bodies were instead found in relatively recognizable condition? Where did you hear that?

[bullimiami]

13. because its an incomplete pile of hogwash and we already get that everyday

from bushco. tell the truth, investigate the discrepancies, ask the real questions then people might be interested.

[Taxloss]

21. People know how it ends. No suspense. n/t

[robcon]

22. But it was a GREAT movie.

Gripping, realistic and tense. The scenes when they try to figure out what to do, who will do what, and when to do it were the result of terrific moviemaking and writing, IMO.

[bbinacan]

24. I agree with you and

the movie was emotionally draining.

[FARAFIELD]

25. NOBODY SAID IT WAS GOING TO

Its on target to make about 30Million which is very good for such material. Keep in mind that most of the audience was over 30, which means big money on DVD sales. As a reference a Movie we talked about here "good night and good luck" made a total of 28million. SO when you say DIDNT set the box office on fire, it never was going to. Greengrass and the producers knew that, in fact when he took the job for the Bourne Supremacy, he took it with being able to make this movie in mind. Great movie to by the way. All you losers that are busy saying its "fiction" you really dont understand docudrama. Under your rules, all docudramas are fiction. SO Schindlers list, Patton, etc are all fiction. You use the word "fiction" as a repuke uses "liberal" when they descibe us. Its meant to deride and make fun of. I remember posting a review on here right after I saw it the opening night in Tribeca, and i was really embarrased by some of the stuff I read. Those were brave people that went down trying to take back that plane, Not crash, but take back, they knew that a licensed pilot and an Air Traffic Controller and decided to do something about it. We know that because some family members said they were told "WE are going to take back the plane". Anyone who mocks that effort isnt worth a shit. Poo Poo and theorize and say its fiction, they still died, simply because they took that flight that morning.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

26. But George Will said it was our CIVIC DUTY to see it! Have we let him

down? :shrug:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/05/AR2006050501661.html

[slybacon9]

27. I'm just not that into sci-fi or conspiracy flicks anymore.

a realistic movie about how that flight landed in Ohio and was evacuated... THAT i would have watched.

[Hissyspit]

28. There were already two TV movie versions of those events, if I'm not

mistaken. It is NOT the 9/11 story that needs to be told now.

[brentspeak]

29. Where are the conspiracy nuts who claim the director was paid by Bush

to make a hyper-patriotic propaganda film?

Left-wing, right-wing: different sides of the same kooky coin.

[Bridget Burke]

34. I didn't hear that the movie was "hyper-patriotic" at all.

Fear of Flying
You may not want to see United 93, but you should
By Robert Wilonsky
Article Published Apr 27, 2006

...Even their final act, their attempt to take control of the plane after the hijacking, is portrayed as something prosaic: the inevitable last gasp of the desperate and doomed. It's to Greengrass's estimable credit that he does not underscore such things as Todd Beamer's "Let's roll!" proclamation, which is barely even heard here. It was just something said, two words only later mythologized by those who needed to latch onto such heroism to cope with such villainy......

Greengrass, who specializes in close-quarters thrills (The Bourne Supremacy) and real-life terror (Bloody Sunday), is a visceral filmmaker; you feel his stuff in your guts. But he does not stay aboard Flight 93 for the entirety of the movie: He cuts back and forth between various air-traffic control centers and military command posts, playing fly-on-the-wall doc-maker as he captures snippets of benign chitchats that turn into frantic, helpless wails as planes begin falling from the sky. United 93 makes irrelevant the in-the-works adaptation of the 9/11 Commission Report; Greengrass is as indignant toward panicked and absent government officials as he is respectful of the passengers aboard Flight 93.

www.houstonpress.com/Issues/2006-04-27/film/film.html

[NMMNG]

31. Maybe the movie just doesn't speak to the values of mainstream America

:shrug: :sarcasm:


(I'm just regurgitating the line the neocons/fundies use when any Hollywood movie they don't like doesn't do well at the box office.)

[rman]

32. "United 93" vs "Flight 93"

United 93 (Universal Pictures)
www.apple.com/trailers/universal/united93/
www.flight93.net (note the confusing URL)
www.united93movie.com

Many people are incorrectly refering to this one as "Flight 93".

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Here's the real "Flight 93":

Flight 93 (A&E)
www.aetv.com/flight_93/f93_preview.jsp
www.loosechange911.com/flight93.mov

[PatGund]

33. You mean "United 93"??

I noticed it was running at City Centre theatre here in Doha, Qatar.

I admit a certain amount of curiousity, about how the Islamic censors that screen and edit each movie shown in Qatar, handled and/or edited it.

But not enough curiousity to go actually watch it.

[Cruzan]

35. What got me interested in seeing the movie was the ATC clip

which I've listened to over and over again countless times and never tire of: http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/flight93-air-traffic.wma

[KyuzoGator]

36. I never understood who'd pay $9 to relive 9/11.

But who am I to judge?

[Cruzan]

37. Actually, I didn't pay

I downloaded a video cam pirated version