H. Clinton praising Bush on Lou Dobbs live and in color

[heartofthesiskiyou]

calls him charming and other glowing remarks. Dobbs makes links to the recent inroads with Murdock and FOX. It was sickening.

[redqueen]

1. Think she'll be campaigning to the 'center'?

How crazy are these people that still don't see what's staring them right in the face?

[PsychoDad]

27. She sounds as if she's....

campaigning to the right. And at a time when even repug canidates are trying to distance themselves from the stench of *.

Peace

[redqueen]

52. Yeah sorry... forgot the sarcasm thingy.

[OzarkDem]

39. That's not center, its right wing

Bush is the most partisan, extremist president in recent history. The public agrees. Is she trying to court the Freeper vote?

[redqueen]

53. I don't know!

It seems absolutely insane, to me... but some advisor must have told her it's a great idea.

[MikeNearMcChord]

2. Has she become the Stepford Wife?

Who is her political handler? Glenn Beck?

[ikojo]

3. Remember she was a Goldwater girl in 1964

I assume that if she manages to finagle the Dem nomination there will be those on this board who say we cannot say anything against her.

[The Wielding Truth]

8. I remember all that stuff.

I always thought that we should be the elephant instead of donkey party because we do not forget.

[madrchsod]

24. don`t say that

i got a time out several months ago for pointing this out...ya i went to school with girls like her...

[SoCalDem]

32. She's a politician.. They have many allegiances and at the same time, none

The only politicians that seem to get any real consideration these days are buffoonish caricatures of whom they started out to be.. We want the candy, and even though we know they will abuse us after they give us the candy, we keep getting into that damned car..

We need someone more like Bulworth

[WI_DEM]

38. but then Ronald Reagan was also a New Deal Democrat

in the 30's and 40's.

[MadMaddie]

4. What the hell is wrong with her...?

I have lost all respect for her...I will help fight her nomination.

[corporate_mike]

17. she has to move to the right to broaden her base

[kysrsoze]

49. No, she doesn't. Fuck that bitch. Does she think she's going to get one

vote from the right? They HATE her. She's losing any base she had in the first place. I like Bill a lot and usually don't use this much venomous profanity, but she's absolute scum. I'd love a female president, but not this one. She's a war supporter, a corporate apologist and a completely spineless politician.

I'd talk about what I'd do if she were to be nominated, but I don't have to. Polls show her garnering 26% of the vote. Bye-bye, skank. You and Lieberman can both go to hell.

[Avalux]

5. Well, she certainly isn't trying to please the left.

If she's pandering to the center it doesn't make sense - Bush isn't exactly Mr. Popularity right now.

[Tactical Progressive]

21. Which is EXACTLY what she should be doing

I am continually amazed that progressives ON A POLITICAL FORUM don't understand even the first thing about national politics.

It is stunning really.

It wouldn't make sense if she wasn't pandering to the center.

[w4rma]

30. Not to win a Democratic *primary*. This kind of stuff loses her votes.

And that's fine with me, because I think that if she won then there would be more NAFTA and more "free" trade and more wars. I also don't think that she would investigate anything that the Repugs did during Bush's term, but would do exactly what President Clinton did and try to ignore it all and "move on".

It's downright stupid to go on Lou Dobbs's show and antagonize his fans.

[fla nocount]

34. Like all Howty Tows...The bitch travels with too much baggage..

Throw her off the train....I thought that this party wanted to win with a platform that was relevant to WE the people.

[Redstone]

6. There goes ANY chance of a vote from me.

Redstone

[Tactical Progressive]

22. Aw gee, Redstone

You say that in every thread on Hillary.

Each post is on this board is apparently your Hillary Clinton epiphany.

[Betsy Ross]

7. Just more behavior that will assure

that she not get the nomination in '08. She has already given us more than enough reasons not to support her for President. IMHO.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. Fine with me.

The sooner we can get this Hillary for president business over with the better.

[Disturbed]

12. Maybe she does not wish to run for Prez?

Seems that the RW and their Corp Media are pushing the notion that she will run. Maybe she won't. I sure hope she does not.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

13. Oh, I think she wants to.

She's certainly raising a lot of money for it.

[opihimoimoi]

10. Whatever she is: Still WAY Better than BUSH/and what the PUB Party

comes up with...

She may not appeal to all, but still, she got brains and a yearning to do America Better.

If she be the NOM, I would vote for her.

Its either that...or vote Pub...which is disaster continuing...

To divide is to weaken...Bush the Divider is the prime example....

[goclark]

35. DITTO DITTO nt

[dysfunctional press]

50. not necessarily-

i'd rather have someone who's at least honest and upfront about being a repug...you tend not to let your guard down...besides her DINO husband already fucked us over enough, didn't he?

[Demobrat]

11. How thoughtful of her to

provide her opponent with a free ad, should she get the nom.

[Tactical Progressive]

23. Oh, what ad would that be?

Is there some inside information on George Bush running for a third term that the rest of us are unaware of?

[Demobrat]

54. George, Jeb ...

Whoever.

[Mr_Spock]

14. I'm just not that excited about this story

It'll be forgotten within a month or so and is just typical nicey-nicey stuff that politicians do when they want to be seen as appealing to a wide range of voters.

I find it meaningless and in a strange way it gives me more respect for her because I know she isn't an idiot - she has to know this will drive people insane, but she did it anyway. It's kind of gutsy in my opinion.

[Yoda Yada]

15. They (Republicans) want Hillary to run.....

They want her to run because then Republicans know they can win. Their Republican base will never, never, NEVER vote for Hillary. In order to insure that she is the candidate, Murdock will even back her with some money. All of the Republican mouthpieces START their discussions these days assuming Hillary is ALREADY the Democratic candidate. Chris Matthews spits and sputters all the time about Hillary.....seldom talks about any other possibilty. He has been given his orders....and obviously has been told to talk only about Hillary.

(They must have a tremendous smear campaign against her ready to go.....it will only work if they can be sure that she is the candidate. They are starting early.)

[Mr_Spock]

16. They tried to get Bill & he was even reelected

I'm not sure they really can deal with somebody who has the political savvy of a Clinton.

They better watch what they wish for - they may just get President Clinton all over again.

[Tactical Progressive]

25. Republicans are scared shitless of Hillary

The Republican base will never, never, NEVER vote for any progressive.

Hillary is the only Democratic candidate fully immunized from their smears. Americans know she was unfairly impugned by rancid Republicans during Bill's tenure, from Whitewater through Monicagate, and most of them see her as the ONLY ONE wronged by Bill's philandering.

When Republicans try to smear her, which they will because it's the only thing they know how to do, not only is it going to fall flat, but there will be a backlash for them trying, like with little Ricky Lazio, only a thousand-fold more. The backlash will be quiet in moderate voters minds, and from the progressive base on the net and on the tube, it's going to be loud and nasty when they try it.

I can't wait for them to start trying to smear Hillary. It will be payback time.

[zeemike]

18. She lost me when she supported the flag burning amendment

To me that was a declaration of what she would be about and her actions so far is confirming it.
Too bad to we could use a woman as president.

[Tactical Progressive]

26. You're so right about it being time for a woman President

You're so silly about pivoting your choice for President on the ridiculous flag-burning issue.

Stop being silly and stick with your realization about it being time for a woman President. You're on to something real there.

[zeemike]

40. The flag burning amendment is not silly

In fact it is at the basis of our constitutional rights to protest and to not have any symbol made sacred by the state.
Were such a thing to pass I would feel compelled to burn the flag every day until arrested and so should any patriotic American that actually believes in the constitution and the freedoms it gives us.
You may be willing to sell off such principles but I am not.
But there is a lot of other good women in the party that do not sell out for the chance to run and we should support them if the do.

[Tactical Progressive]

41. I couldn't agree more on flag-burning

It represents freedom of speech. More than that, it is a pure expression of the freedom of political speech which is the most important kind. A very counter-productive symbol in practice, but an important symbol of what we stand for to maintain.

You can relax, Hillary won't be sending any anti-flag-burning legislation to Congress.

[mtnsnake]

43. For the millionth time, she never supported a flag burning amendment

She supported legislation to ban desecration to the American flag under certain instances. She did this to AVOID a flag burning amendment, something she was very vocal about.

[Tactical Progressive]

48. Oh, please.

Now you're just trying to confuse everyone with facts.

Enough, before I report you to the moderators. I'll bet they know that Hillary is just a Republican plant who fellates neo-cons. They'll shut you and your little facts right down, snake boy.

[heartofthesiskiyou]

19. CNN getting ready to report a drift to the right by H. Clinton

Wolf did a promo coming up in the next few minutes

[Cha]

20. Well, she was behind the curve

on the iwr and patriot act..what else? nclb? hillary is bringing up the rear.. not very fast either.

Most the country knows bush for exactly what he is and hillary givin' him love shout outs.

[fla nocount]

28. Jimmy Carter was our first Tri-lateral-C-candidate..

It's been downhill ever since. Hillary is just the latest to prove to the impartial observer that there is no difference between parties who share a common goal....sucking ass for personal gain. Which sucker of ass do we vote for is the choice we are left with. A calculating sucker(Hillary), a dainty and urbane sucker(Kerry),a bumbling sucker(Gore)or a commanding distanced sucker(Clark). There was only one ass kicker as opposed to sucker in the last election and his name was Dean. His decision not to straddle the fence....smart, the splinters in your ass issue, is what alienated him to the party politic. Notice though that he is still an influential and viable player.

Until this party offers something DIFFERENT, drastically DIFFERENT it must resign itself to playing jax with the BIG girls and keep hoping that the butter-fingered bitch will drop enough for her to stay competitive... trickle down redux.

Of course the the BIG girl if falling behind she will simply pick up her jax and her ball...she owns both, and quit the game. We need to change the game folks, jax is for LITTLE girls.

At least JC is contrite. He was a good man, not especially erudite who was the first to sign into a triple D (DUMB DAMN DEAL). All those who followed knew exactly what kind of pact they were signing. Jimmy was a stooge, the rest are villians.

[Clarkie1]

29. She's been bought. n/t

[flashdebadge]

31. Hillary said Bush had a lot of compassion. (throw up now)

[mtnsnake]

45. self delete

found the info I was looking for

[w4rma]

33. It's downright stupid to go on Lou Dobbs's show and antagonize his fans.nt

[Ioo]

36. Yah, another reason NOT to support her

[GreenArrow]

37. funny...John Edwards call the Cheneys loving parents

and great role models or whatever kind of insipid pap he said, and he's "classy" shrewd, "taking the high road" and what not, even though he's clearly talking through both sides of his mouth, yet when Hilary does the exact same sort of diplomatic safe talking she gets excoriated.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander...

[Tactical Progressive]

42. He's a GUY!!

When we act with courtesy it's smart and civil. When some craven, power-hungry bitch does it she's sucking traitor cock. How hard is that to understand?

I think you don't like America very much.

[Pierzin]

46. I know I know i know why she did it!

Because she wants to dance with the Devil until she gets burned.
She was pro-war because she doesn't have enough of a spine to stand up and question this administration about this war. She is dancing with the devil because she wants to pander to most number of people, even now when dense brick-headed died in the wool Repubs are realizing this president is out of control!!! She will never get the nomination because she is too much of a panderer.

[ShortnFiery]

47. Why yes, don't cha know it's the ultimate in class?!?

I've been told that we must be classy and exercise decorum ... um, as we get our butts handed to us in the next election.

Why don't you understand his nuance. Edwards always practice that good Southern Charm.

[madeline_con]

44. Can we please stop talking about her being Prez now? eom

[deacon]

51. She's joined my Lieberman category - no use for her n/t