MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell reporting that Goss was FIRED!

[Cooley Hurd]

:wow:

She also says that Fran Townsend is NOT going to be his replacement...

[Eurobabe]

1. Something to do with prostitutes?

LOL?

[Kikosexy2]

36. I guess...

the hookers demanded a refund for services rendered but we're refused. So they stormed the WH and demanded that Chimpie fire Mr. Limpdick or else be exposed...does this sound like well...logical?

[grasswire]

60. cover story, more likely

It took a couple of hours for them to come up with this dodge.

[MrModerate]

2. But he was doing a "heckuva job" . . . n/t

[IndyOp]

8. Not a heckuva job - He performed 'ably' -

Of course, this might be based on an evaluation by the hooker(s)...

:rofl:

[alcibiades_mystery]

I doubt it

the hooker probably thought he was a dead fucking old limpdick. ;-)

[sandnsea]

12. To get fired, he probably was

In this administration of opposites.

[dogday]

3. Fired

OMG :wow:

[helderheid]

4. well that puts a new wheel on the wagon!

[flamingyouth]

5. What do you have to do to get fired by the Bush Administration?

The mind reels...

[Chimichurri]

11. I'd say do a good job and tell the truth but doubt Goss falls

into that category.

That is one hell of a question.

[rfranklin]

14. Have a conscience?

I hink it'ss considered bad form.

[Jack Rabbit]

16. You'll have to come up with another reason for this one

Goss is a good, loyal political hack.

The prosecutor must have the goods on him.

[leftchick]

22. blow jobs

I would imagine.

[MADem]

27. Screw a few hookers, get photographed at a sleazy poker party...

Fire all the GOOD analysts, replace them with toadies, causing the agency to leak in righteous anger, like a seive....

[Cooley Hurd]

That's the flow-chart...

:thumbsup:

[librechik]

46. interesting--supposedly there are photos of the parties

maybe the prez got a preview--

But I tend to think it was a peter war between Goss and Negroponte. Imperial power and all that.

[DoYouEverWonder]

58. Negroponte was there next to Goss for the announcement

But I don't think Goss got canned because of him. Goss got canned because he got caught with his pants down, literally.

[MADem]

67. That's what they want you to believe--they even hauled portly Timmy

Russert, anxiously sweating, away from the buffet on a Friday to go in front of the cameras and say exactly that.

Just a turf war, nothing to see, move along!!!!

Porter was Bush's PERSONAL CHOICE. Hand-picked. And if it was a simple turf war, why the LIGHTNING QUICK resignation? Give the guy a month to clear out his desk, eh???

Naaah, there's poker, booze, limos, congressmen, hotel rooms, contractors, lobbyists, and oh, yeah, HOOKERS in all this. And someone is talking like mad....they had to get him gone FAST.

[rodeodance]

55. maybe you hit it---as Bush can not have of that immortal sexy stuff

liked with the WH. WAR, death is ok. but not sex.

[Drum]

30. reels indeed!

maybe someone has video???

[flamingyouth]

33. I'm hopin' so!

:D

[central scrutinizer]

40. In the past the only way you could get fired was to tell the truth

that certainly doesn't apply in this case - we'll have to wait and see but it must be a scandal they couldn't cover up

[Canuckistanian]

50. Maybe Goss has a book coming out

It was a pre-emptive strike on Goss....

[Beaverhausen]

6. Why would Cheney fire him?

come on, you know that's who would do it.

[NightOwwl]

7. So did Nora O'Donnell....

they must not have gotten the memo from Rove yet.

This is juicy stuff!

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. Or maybe they did get the message from rove

Goss resigns, then Rove plants the idea that he was shitcanned in the media. that way they can pretend that bush found out about the bribing and whoring and cashiered him tout suite like, yessirreeee.

:rofl:

[NightOwwl]

24. The very same thought occurred to me after I posted.

I think you may be on to something.

[Duer 157099]

9. Maybe for not keeping reigns tight on McGovern yesterday?

(even if he is retired -- is he?) Sending a message that even the RETIRED guys need to be kept quiet.

[Zan_of_Texas]

64. Ray McGovern has not been quiet. Not at all.

He has been speaking out against the war and BushCo for many months. He also knows a lot about Plame and the leak.

Good fella.

I don't think the Goss thing has a thing to do with McGovern.

However, let's throw this on the table, just to cover another base. Any chance, as the Cunningham and DeLay investigations have converged at least a little bit, that the Fitz investigation of the Plame leak could have something to do with the Goss resignation? Just so we keep all possibilities in mind ....

Cooking With Goss
The new CIA chief's shakeups are bad news.

By Fred Kaplan
Posted Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2004, at 5:42 PM ET

http://www.slate.com/id/2109870/

... Goss also helped Bush during the early days of the Joseph Wilson-Valerie Plame scandal. As chairman of a House oversight committee and as a former CIA case officer himself, Goss should have been dismayed that a White House aide might have exposed the identity of an undercover agent as an act of political retaliation against the agent's spouse. But, although the Justice Department took the reports seriously enough to mount a grand-jury probe, Goss dismissed them as "wild and unsubstantiated" and added, as a jab at the Democrats, "Somebody sends me a blue dress and some DNA, I'll have an investigation." ...

Of course, this would win an award for irony if Goss has been involved in hanky panky involving exchange of bodily fluids for defense contracts. (Would we have to call that a Patriot Act?????)

[Jack Rabbit]

10. Is any one surprised?

Not Mrs. Rabbit's son, Jack.

[Spazito]

13. Hmmm, sniff.....sniff...something smells...

If this had been a firing due to incompetence, there is NO WAY IN HELL the bush cabal would have been caught unaware as they so obviously were. They would have been preparing the ground on this well before today.

This is a very pathetic attempt to spin this well after the shit has hit the fan, imo.

[spanone]

15. Tonight we're getting what the media does best...it Guesses the news.

[0007]

25. .....and on Friday. Where will junior go for the week-end?

Camp David I'd guess. You can bet the whole gang will be there.

[MADem]

31. Hidey, hidey, hidey HOLE!! n/t

[rodeodance]

17. another discussion

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1113419

[kerry-is-my-prez]

18. It had to be something major for it to happen this quickly....

n/t

[Cooley Hurd]

21. Yep, like the TRUTH about his involvement in HOOKERGATE?

*scratches chin*

[MADem]

37. Either Hookergate, or Mary McCarthy has a high viz lawsuit coming at them

They can fix that problem by reversing her termination, and letting her retire.

[rodeodance]

59. I agree, one does not just suddenly not do their job. something is up!

[Rhiannon12866]

19. K & R from me! Wow!

:wow:

[Cooley Hurd]

26. Double-wow!

:wow::wow:

[Rhiannon12866]

35. And here I was just watching Blitzer on CNN.

Silly me!:silly:

on edit: I just checked in with CNN and that Bush* apologist, Dana Bash, just had more news on Patrick Kennedy. Why am I not surprised...:shrug:

[Cooley Hurd]

42. That'll learn ya!

Leslie Baxter's still pulling his woody over poor Patrick Kennedy?:rofl:

[Rhiannon12866]

49. That's what I just said, on edit.

I guess I'd better just tune into Comedy Central, if I want any news at all...:-(

[WinkyDink]

23. Somehow, Jimmy/Jeff figures in this. And the newly-departed Scotty.

Somehow.

[rodeodance]

28. Nora: Why was he fired? -to the panal.

[VolcanoJen]

32. Nora's not buying the spin. At all.

She's really pressing all of them on the timing, the abruptness, the lack of a successor, the fact that Goss didn't say he was leaving "to spend more time with his family."

[Cooley Hurd]

38. Michael Isikoff is ALSO speculating about hookergate!

Amazing to watch this unfold so quickly in REAL TIME!

[rodeodance]

45. glad to see Isikoff do this.

[rodeodance]

34. Nora---he was not doing his job (she claims)

[magellan]

29. War and Piece says Goss fired by Bush** over Foggo

War and Piece
I hear that when Porter Goss went to meet with Negroponte today, he didn't know he was going to be leaving the job. And that it would have been the President's decision, not Negroponte's. And that this may have to do with how Goss handled a management issue concerning Foggo. And perhaps with a tie in to HIPSI.

And I hear that Fran Townsend has already been approached about taking Goss's job -- and turned it down.

Somewhere else I read that Goss was ordered to fire Foggo and refused, and that's why he got the axe.

[VolcanoJen]

39. That makes sense, and explains part of the after-the-fact spin job.

Newsweek's Mike Isikoff says "something happened this week that made this happen today." He's damned right.

So, the WH says Goss wasn't a team player and had to be fired. Negroponte got the job done this morning.... but why? Because Goss wouldn't fire his lackey, Dusty Foggo.

So it'll still all come back around to Hookergate. The WH Spin that Goss was fired is just a tactic to buy time over the weekend to brace themselves for Monday's papers. :-)

[rodeodance]

43. the talk of Goss being a team player is sure making the rounds. Did

this come from the WH?

[robbedvoter]

51. "Something happened that..." Wow! Stellar reporting! from the guy

who brought us Catherine Wyly!

[Gregorian]

41. If I were to guess, I would say he wasn't doing what they wanted.

I know nothing about this issue. But my "gut feeling" was that he was fired. And that he wasn't working the way the administration wanted. Just a guess. They don't jump ship, and they don't fire one another without a good reason.

So what was it he was going to say? Or what was it he wasn't willing to say?

Just an ignorant guess.

[Cooley Hurd]

47. If that were the case, then it would've played out for weeks...

...and they would've trashed Goss in the media long before his "resignation." This happened lightning-fast - something came down the pike to make them expedite his departure, like HOOKERGATE!:thumbsup:

[AlamoDemoc]

44. I can't imagine this administration would fire someone that quick

besides, you would think they would rumored replacement before they handed him his pink slip!

[rodeodance]

52. Yes, this was just all to quick. It will drip out over time but i have no

patience!

[Cooley Hurd]

53. They had to dump him ASAP-obviously something is breaking below the surface

...that we'll know about SOON.

[spanone]

48. So, why the political theatre this morning?...press conference.

Resignation? Did Bush* know he'd been fired and just went along with the skit?

[rodeodance]

54. well, bush was busy with his photo-op this am. at the hardware store.

[Bucky]

56. The last I'd heard of Goss, he was casting doubts on Iran's nuke program

Doesn't look like it's the cause of his downfall, but apparently Cheney and Negroponte were miffed that Goss kept sending over reports that Iran could go nuclear on 10 years, not ten months. I'm imagining they're only too happy to see hooker problems show up for a guy who kept sending them more of those damned facts.

[rodeodance]

57. you mean Goss would not fix the reports to their expectations? my my

[Jane Austin]

61. So . . . how'd Goss vote on the Clinton impeachment?

Hmmmmmm??

[Cooley Hurd]

62. Interesting take from Jane Hamsher (firedoglake):

Hookers By Jane Hamsher

Color me confused. Everyone on TV seems to be buying the line that the Goss resignation has been planned for weeks. No natural curiosity about the fact that it takes effect immediately, or that there is no replacement, or that he had a meeting scheduled this afternoon he didn’t show up for. Not to mention the fact that as Professor Foland pointed out in the comments, the White House would’ve probably sacrificed its collective left nut to avoid stepping on a drunk Kennedy story.
</snip>

:rofl:

[Rhiannon12866]

63. Good point. Blitzer is focusing on the Patrick Kennedy story, when this is

actual news. So much for the MSM.:-(

[rateyes]

65. Prostitutes with CIA director....

National security issue, you think? What a bunch of asshats these people are!

[Grateful for Hope]

66. Fired because he disagreed with BushCo on some issues?

Since BushCo rewards ineptitude and corruption, I can't think of any other reason.