WaPo: Lawyers: Libby Needs Media Records

[kpete]

Lawyers: Libby Needs Media Records

By TONI LOCY
The Associated Press
Tuesday, May 2, 2006; 1:20 AM

WASHINGTON -- Lawyers for I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby urged a federal judge Monday to force several media organizations to turn over e-mails, drafts of news articles and reporters' notes they say the former top White House aide needs to receive a fair trial in the CIA leak case.

In a 45-page filing, Libby's lawyers said reporters have "no right _ under the Constitution or the common law _ to deprive Mr. Libby of evidence that will help establish his innocence at trial."

Libby, 55, Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, is charged with perjury and obstruction of justice for lying to the FBI and a federal grand jury about how he learned about CIA operative Valerie Plame and what he subsequently told reporters about her.

The key to Libby's defense is whose memory is correct _ Libby's or three reporters who talked with him in June and July 2003. His lawyers said they need the reporters' records to use in cross-examining them and government officials, who, the lawyers said, may be "shading" the truth to protect themselves or their bosses.

more at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/02/AR2006050200086.html

[H2O Man]

1. Important article ....

There is an attempt to make the AIPAC spy case appear to be an administration attack on the media, which it is not; this is an actual administration attack on the media, which is being disguised as a media attack on the administration.

[kpete]

2. Good Morning H20 Man...

Are we proud of Larisa or what?
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/MSNBC_confirms_Raw_Story_report_Outed_0501.html

[H2O Man]

5. Good morning.

Larisa does a wonderful job. I do not take the attempts to attack her on DU seriously.

I wish we had a link to the Team Libby reply for DUers to enjoy.

[stop the bleeding]

6. Wish granted

http://www.udpc.org/05-1-06%20Libby%20reply.pdf

thank DU'er helderheid for helping with this


here is all of the one's we have gone over lately

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=358&topic_id=3589&mesg_id=3621

[H2O Man]

7. Thank you.

Much appreciated.

[stop the bleeding]

8. It is us here at DU

that should be displaying the gratitude.

I am looking forward to your next piece.

[H2O Man]

9. Part Two ....

That is actually their Response to Fitzgerald's Motion (re: Ex Parte submissions per CIPA). There should also be a Team Liby Reply to the media attorney's Response. Can you possibly provide a link to that? Thanks.

[stop the bleeding]

11. Dang - I was afraid of that -

this is the only one filed in the month of May so far, the next oldest ones are from 04/28/06.

Judging by kpete's post this filing that we are looking for should have happened on 05/01/06 and should be 45 pages in length. Sometimes it takes several hours to a day for the filings to make their way to the public index system. I will keep checking through out the day. :freak:

[H2O Man]

13. Let's hope it is

made public soon!

[kpete]

16. This?

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/files/Libby_060501_LibResp_PressSubpoena.pdf

[kpete]

17. and this?

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/files/Libby_060501_LibResp2_PressSubpoena.pdf

[stop the bleeding]

18. The WaPo article says 45 pages -

I am not sure if these are it or if there is more, either way thank you I am adding both of these to the Research Forum now. Also I don't know how they are getting these. I just checked the official Federal site and they were not there yet. Somehow the people at these links have a better source or a more direct source.

Keep them coming kpete - H2O Man is looking for one filed yesterday with 45 pages, but in the mean time these should keep him busy.

[stop the bleeding]

19. Yep these are the 45 pages we are looking for

the link you provided shows that the court for some reason is filing these in the civil side :shrug: who knows why

I am working on several upon several pages of exhibits right for these filings

[kpete]

20. I count on you...

to bring me light...

What a team!

Back to work...

[H2O Man]

22. Outrageous!

These are unreal. Team Libby seems to forget what Scooter has been charged with.

[H2O Man]

24. Outrage part 2 ....

DUers may come to know these as The Watergate Defensive Strategy ..... Haldeman, Liddy, and Tricky Dick are all here!

[kpete]

25. You are driving me crazy...

But I will wait for you to clear it all up.

Things ARE good (I take it)...

[H2O Man]

28. Sure are.

These guys fight hard. This is a severe attack on journalism. I do not think that Judge Walton is going to let Team Libby put on side shows. This is an intense document.

[H2O Man]

21. Interesting.

Thanks for both of these. On Correction: I see they are the two parts of the filing.

Note that on page 2 (actually 20) there are two things of interest.

First, Team Libby tries to be tricky in their monkey-business on Marc G telling Libby about Valerie's job: "Again, the government will presumably reply on this alleged communication to contend that Mr. Libby could not have been surprised when Mr. Russert told him the same thing a month later." Sorry -- Mr. Russert DIDN'T tell Libby that. Scooter was LYING when he said Russert told him that. That's one reason Scooter is going to be convicted.

Second, notice that Team Libby is using Jason Leopold and Truthout as references: "See Jason Leopold, Libby Filing, Truthout.com April 14, 2006 (Exh. L.)" Team Libby is submitting that Leopold has good sources, and they consider Truthout to be an unfriendly but accurate news source.

[kpete]

23. H20 Man

The "Leopold" angle is fascinating...

Elaborate if you can, PLEASE!

[H2O Man]

26. I'll say this, briefly ...

They are pissed -- and I mean pissed -- that Jason has been writing the things he has, because they know he has a good source (actually, sources). The document, in my opinion, shows a high degree of Cheney-based paranoia about the press -- shades of Richard Nixon! Look on page 20 (2 of 27 on part 2) and you'll find it.

[stop the bleeding]

29. Hang tight I am trying to get 150 pages of Exhibits that were

filed with these to you guys, they are listed in 4 set of PDF's - the links that kpete provided tell us at the bottom that these documents were filed in the Civil court and not the criminal court hence is why I could not find them until kpete posted these links.

As stated before there are about 150 pages of exhibits that were filed with this reponse, I hope you have some free time today. ;)


Also I have added these last 2 to the Research Forum


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=358&topic_id=3589&mesg_id=3622

[H2O Man]

31. Team Libby forgets ...

Judge Walton is going to try the criminal charges in the court. He isn't looking to have a fight about the OVP/WHIG's dislike of Joe Wilson tried in the media.

[kpete]

32. Paranoia is RIGHT!

"and they did so purely for revenge"

Tell me more about Grossman...

[Catherine Vincent]

27. Wow!

You should start a thread on that tidbit. Scooter Libby referencing Jason Leopold of Truthout.com!

[H2O Man]

30. So much for

those on DU who were attacking Jason.

I will have an organized response to this either tonight or in the morning.

[kpete]

33. I can't wait!!!

[H2O Man]

44. Done.

Posted as "Team Libby Filings (5-1)."

[stop the bleeding]

34. No doubt this will shut everyone up

proof is right there in the court filings - those effing big mouths - they will be eating a bunch of crow tonight.

No word from helderhied yet on the 150 pages of exhibts

[kpete]

35. Wow, wow and double wow!!!

I am just itching to here more!

[Garbo 2004]

36. I'll look forward to that. Thanks for your work on this stuff. n/t

[dave29]

42. Very opening of set two... they contend Fleischer might have been lying

Fleischer, under the bus.

[H2O Man]

43. Yep.

Ari was never really one of the good ole boys. They will point at him as the leaker.

[bullimiami]

3. when it was judith miller with the aspens and the roots it was fine

for her to go to jail for her "first amendment rights" to cover up for perjury and treason.

but to defend his sorry lying ass he wants the courts to force reporters to disclose their information?

[Me.]

38. Judge Hogan On Miller

"Miller wasn’t an innocent bystander, Hogan said. "She was an actor in the commission of a crime," he said. "She was part of the transfer of information that was a crime."

*shadow government*

[kpete]

39. I thought that was interesting too...

[Me.]

41. I Loved It

Because just as Leopold has rec'd vindication, those of us who said right from the start that she was involved in a criminal conspiracy, and that the only thing innocent about her was her lawyer, were also vindicated.

*shadow government*

[KharmaTrain]

4. Stall Stall, Throw More On The Wall, See What Sticks

Any bets on how long it will take the judge to toss this request? If he wouldn't allow the PDB game, I suspect he won't go along with this one either...but it does bring up an interesting tactic.

I've long suspected the real defense on this case will be for Libby and then Rove to put the corporate media on trial...or at least try to. If they're going down, they're not going alone. They've already tossed Vivecka Novak under the bus, have Judy Miller all tied to the pavement, would love to make Matt Cooper look like a big snitch and tie Timmy Russert in knots and keep him compromised. And that's just the start.

The bottom line is Team Libby is looking for any opportunity to push this game as close to 2009 as they can...or at least into 2008 where the story either will be "old news" (since so many other, worse, scandals will come to light) or after the November elections when boooosh can pull the pardon trigger. With that always in mind, one can't help but think that the game here by Rove and Libby is to intimidate and compromise the corporate media or to get it to fight against itself.

[Catherine Vincent]

10. Any updates on the GJ meeting tomorrow and Friday?

[H2O Man]

12. American Idle Speculation ....

The grand jurors were not favorably impressed by Mr. Rove's presentation. This period is the calm before the storm.

[Catherine Vincent]

14. Ah, well then...

...things are good! :-)

[stop the bleeding]

15. Things are about to get a whole lot

better or worse depending on who you are in this mess.

Last night's David Schuster report on Hardball about Plame/Iran was numbing to say the least. I wonder if David reads DU or Rawstory?

[yodermon]

37. Kick

for the Leopold ref. in post 21

[Me.]

40. Blah, Blah, Blah

More Libby desperation. I've come to respect Judge Walton, during this process, and believe he will deal with this in the same rather scornful manner he handled Libby's motion to dismiss where he said one didn't have to go very far in the law to find justification for dismissing that motion.

*shadow government*