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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:01 PM
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Ok, say Fitz does indict Rove; what does that do for us?
Ideas?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:05 PM
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It means either
1. Rove must spend his time defending himself in court rather than concocting dirty tricks against Democrats; or

2. Bush will have to pardon him up front, which won't look good.

It will also lay to rest the nonsense about this being a trivial matter, as if that hasn't already been refuted.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 05:22 PM
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21. I suspect the following:
If indicted, Rove's attorneys will be able to stall and stall and stall until Bush is out of office. In the meantime, Rove will stay at work in the WH and continue doing what he always does. Bush will say he doesn't need to quit because he is innocent until proven guilty in a trial and convicted.

In other words, Bush will once again tell the American public: FUCK YOU!!!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:05 PM
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1. It gets the architect off the latest shoddy construction job, for a start
He'll be too busy trying to save his ass to devote his full attention to stealing elections.

It will put his cohorts in fear, worrying that he might give them up in exchange for leniency (or to suggest that all of his nefarious deeds were freelance efforts, without approval from on high); or throw them to the wolves because he knows he can be pardoned.

And speaking of fear, seeing as we have all been living in it since Monkey took the throne, it's rather rich that the vibe is reflecting back on them, for a change.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:05 PM
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2. Another nail in the coffin
of this corrupt administration. We've known for years what they were. We will be validated.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:06 PM
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3. Immediate resignation de rigeur.
And half of chimpy's marionette strings are cut.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:08 PM
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4. It seems like an awful lot of face time before the Grand Jury for there
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 03:11 PM by Old Crusoe
not to be some actionable outcome.

I got the notion they weren't in there that many times for that long to play bridge.

The elves haven't reported in on this one yet, but unless Fitzerald is a bridge freak and just loves to entertain in legal circles, my hunch is that Karl Rove is in a spot of trouble.

If there is an indictment -- that 'if' looms big I concede -- then Rove would be under tremendous pressure to resign. If he does not, or if Bush tries to retain him, the outcry from Congress, including Republicans, would be deafening.

If Rove goes, Bush is more wounded than he ever imagined he would be, and his reason would likely become unhinged. It's already marginal. The booze and antidepressants intake increase and pretty soon he's carried away to an asylum, preferrably in the Seychelles.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:09 PM
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5. is he still in charge of rebuilding NewOrleans?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:16 PM
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8. Ha - I forgot about that.
We were told that once and then never heard about it again. Sheesh.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:15 PM
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6. Rove being indicted
would mean that the stealing of elections (something he's a veritable master at) will be left to people with a lot less experience. The dirty tricks won't be as smooth, the buy-offs will be a lot sloppier and the American Public, faced with an avalanche of new, irrefutable evidence as to how Repugs DO steal elections, will finally realize that maybe perhaps those damn Libs weren't just all a bunch of whining, crybabies and maybe perhaps just possibly 2000, 2002 and 2004 WERE rigged for Bush and his cronies!

Just a thought ...
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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:15 PM
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7. I'm putting my money on-
They will never bring out the "cuffs". If it does get that close, there will be another catastrophe or the whole bunch will charter one big plane out of here. Not a single person in this whole administration will ever be arrested or incarcerated for any crime including the deaths of 2400 american soldiers for oil and money!
YOU CAN BET ON IT, but there won't be any odds!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:41 PM
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19. Huh? David Safavian
head of Procurement Policy at OMB and a senior Whitehouse aid was arrested, as was Lewis Libby, the VP's chief of staff, and a very senior WH official. Now they may or may not spend time in jail, but both have been indicted on criminal charges. My money's on the same thing happening to Rove.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:24 PM
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9. new reality show about Tom DeLay pimping Roves ass for Cigarettes in Leavenworth
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:27 PM
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11. Shit! He couldn't GIVE away Rove's ass.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:42 PM
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26. oh.. there are a lot of Pig F*ckers in prison..
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DUgosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:26 PM
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10. Rush will have a harder time staying out of trouble
On probation.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:28 PM
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12. It Means Rove Will SING!

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:29 PM
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13. Pardon after the the Nov. election. Saturday night massacre optional.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:45 PM
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14. It's another nasty wound to the Administration
And it makes it just that much easier to defeat Gooper congresscritters, who'll be trying to assert their "independence" from Bush.

Nothing more or less.

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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:55 PM
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16. HAHAHAHA Did you make that up? I will now call all PUKES "Goobers"
I love it!!!
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 05:47 PM
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23. GooPers
alternatively, the GOPee.

Seriously, you've never heard these terms of endearment?

they're kinda immature, but I use them when among friends. Kinda like referring to the President as "Chimpy McFuckstain."
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 03:51 PM
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15. It means dimson will lose one of the few remaining brains he has! nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:14 PM
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17. He won't indict Rove unless he thinks he can get Rove to talk
as a condition for a plea bargain, and that's a prtty big "if." Right now, he's just letting him sweat.

This supposes that Fitzgerald's reputation as an honest prosecutor is an accurate one and that he's not doing damage control to protect the top two thugs.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:17 PM
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18. It removes Rove from November strategy.
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 04:18 PM by terrya
That's one important thing it does.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 04:51 PM
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20. that will be one thing in our favor
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 04:52 PM by alyce douglas
is to get Rove out before that November election. I got my fingers crossed.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 05:25 PM
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22. It Puts All The Crimes On Bushs* Doorstep.
Prez is the only one above Rove.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 05:53 PM
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24. How about justice? Or have you lost sight of the importance of it?
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 06:16 PM
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25. Good point!
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:50 PM
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27. Boosts the credibility of Democrats and further discredits Republicans n/t
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:54 PM
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28. It isn't going to make Bush's numbers go up that's for sure...!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:20 PM
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29. Get's us closer to indicting the big cheeses.n/t
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