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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 09:45 AM
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What women want: Anything but a frigging break from doing housework,
of course! :rofl:

Oh lord, a reader emailed me John Tierney’s column in the NY Times today, just bolstering my sense that they put the op-eds behind a subscription wall so John Tierney’s ruminations on how adorable little women just loooooove submission were well hidden from the general public. He feels like he’s phoning this one in, though, and can’t even convince himself of his own argument that women just love having less money and less power than men, for some unknowable reason that he’s certainly not going to dig around to find.

Freud confessed that his “thirty years of research into the feminine soul” left him unable to answer one great question: “What does a woman want?” Modern feminists have been arguing for decades over a variation of it: What should a woman want?

Straight out of the gate, we have a lie, but to be honest, it’s probably an honest mistake. Tierney, having fallen for the myth at feminist women have crippled wombs and aren’t “real” women thinks that we suffer from the same problem sexist men have, which is that we can’t possibly imagine what women might want and we’re certainly not going to do anything as ridiculous as ask. I hate to break it to him, but feminist women have a pretty damn good idea of what we want and frankly, we’ve been demanding it pretty loudly for awhile. Oh, I know he used the weaselly verb “should”, but I’m hard-pressed to buy into the argument that a political faction that agitates for more opportunities and choices for women is more dictorial than those who either argue that women’s choices should be limited to hausfrau or pitiable spinster.

Anyway, time is short so I won’t get into the whole op-ed, but summarize the start. Tierney quotes sociologists Bradford Wilcox and Steven Nock*, who did a study with 5,000 couples on what factors fed into a happier marriage–though it seems that the real issue is what makes women happy, because for some unfathomable reason, women are struggling to find joys in marriage more than men. Tierney decides for us that it’s because we aren’t embracing the inner hausfrau.


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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 10:38 AM
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1. Groups of men have been getting together for thousands of
years to discover just what women really want.

The one thing these men have never done is get together with groups of women to find out from the source what women want.

One wonders what is so terrifying about women that the questions can be asked of other men but never of women, themselves.

Whenever I hear anything like this from any male, I can click him into several categories: scared little rabbit, closet case, soap bubble ego (fragile and huge), obliviously selfish, and total dud in bed.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:49 PM
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2. I saw the headline for John Tierney’s article
on the online NYTimes and I just thought - "what the hell?"

I knew it had to be stupid.
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