Miss Representation to be re-aired.

[CrispyQ]

http://missrepresentation.org/

The documentary Miss Representation premiered at the 2011 Sundance Film Festival, and aired on OWN: Oprah Winfrey Network in October. It will re-air November 12th at 11 AM ET.

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This is one of the best documentaries I've ever seen. Highly recommended!

[redqueen]

1. We should post about this in GD in the days leading up to the broadcast...

try to drum up some attention and interest.

Thanks for posting this. :)

[redqueen]

2. Jesus.

The thread about mocking anyone who dares to impugn the entitlement to unquestionably accept that pornography is good and wholesome and excellent and a shining example of 'free speech' :eyes: shows that we have a long, long way to go before people give a **** about these issues (and therefore, women).

Entitlement. That's what it's all about. It's going to be a long, hard battle.

[seabeyond]

3. i think that there is a distorted perception on du that we see

the people that are not into porn stay off the thread. obviously in the doghouse if not pro porn. why bother. it really is not worth it. so all we see are the people that need every single person to accept and validate their use, because reality is, with a certain use of porn, they know within what it does. and then of course there are people that it doesn't hurt. the thing, it is like with alcohol. some drink and do fine. some drink and dont do fine. but there is a definite sense of a demand that all people validate the use. i have people in my life where i see it cause problems. i cannot pretend tht porn is healthy for all people but that is what is being demanded on of me.

if a person sees harm with porn, sees it in the real world, have read enough material, and understand behavior and relationship a pro porn person should have enough confidence in their choice to not have to vilify the other in argument. they don't. i think that is the biggest indicator. they demand an acceptance and almost child like need to be told it is ok. normalize it in society. insist all people use it. a real desire to demand all people use it. really ALL people. and cannot fathom the ability to have a good sex life, without it.

what does it say about their use if they have no concept of a person having a good, healthy, active sex life without porn. to think it cannot be done.

it is also interesting there use to be the group that was considered voyeristic. ALL people were not voyeristic. but there are people that are. today, ALL people must be voyeristic. a demand that we are all voyeristic. i dont have that behavior in me. that use to be ok. today, people act like that cannot be. voyerism is simple human behavior. this has been the push to normalize porn. mainstream it.

[redqueen]

4. I just don't understand the desperate, clinging desperation of it...

don't anyone dare to try to acknowledge the harm it does... that is completely out of line and anyone who says so must be lying, have issues, be an authoritarian enemy of free-speech!

It's fucking mental.

You can say alcohol harms, and people will say well no, it's some uses... but everyone gets it. Can't say that about pornography, though, no way. Anyone who dares to acknowledge any harm is roundly attacked for being a pearl-clutching fool.

[redqueen]

5. No discussion at all.

None.

I'm pretty disappointed... I thought someone might have seen it had an a-ha moment, and finally 'got' what's the big deal about sexy wimminz (objectification).

Not only do many not understand it, the obviously just DO. NOT. CARE.

*sigh*

[seabeyond]

6. i was kinda hopin for some, too. honestly, i already have the ah ha moment

and the bet you gave me a couple weeks ago pissed me off so bad, at the beginning. the pornifying women. so damn tired of seeing it everywhere. talking to my 14 yr old the other day, checking to see if he can buy a video game. i told him, any strippers or prostitutes it is out. told him i am so tired of women being protrayed as strippers and prostitutes. all. the. fuckin. time. every guy movie. every video game. i tried to find the channel, but as you know, didnt have it and really didnt get the link and really... i would just be feeling like you right now, if i had watched.

it is our kids. it is our kids that are going to get it adn are getting it. not the old farts....

[redqueen]

7. I dont think I can take anymore.

I'm ready to start ignoring just about everyone for refusing to get it.

[seabeyond]

8. i started thinking, in the child porn thread. not pretty

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=2278376&mesg_id=2296660

i added this onto the porn thread. i got it from ripleys thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=2295194&mesg_id=2295194

300,000 unique computers identified by law enforcement trafficking in the most brutal and violent child pornography movies and images
300k x's the number of kids they have + the unknowns

hundreds of people can laugh at the picture about pors harmful and post demanding their porn and it hurts no one. it all feeds each other. but few will take the time to not only go into the child porn thread, but actually think how many children this is. not even think about it. why we are where we are. a poster on the xporn actress thread was truly amazing as i am thinking about all these kids. and up to 20 kids with sundusky and the adults letting htese kids down.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=2294240&mesg_id=2296647

screw the adults. we have enough kids we are making porn adn prostitute ready to supply the demand

[redqueen]

9. The past weeks have been so loaded with triggers.

Sexual harassment, children being raped... and just to show how insidious the problem is, the usual crowd is sstill hooting and hollering with amusement that anyone would dare suggest that porn might have a harmful side to it.

I really thought people would watch Miss Representation, and suddenly realize how bad it is to so universally promote the image of women as objects. I thought people would actually watch it. I hoped a few of those would have a light bulb moment and realize how all of this is tied together, the sense of entitlement to be entertained by a sex class, for sexual gratification in exchange for money, the exploitation that results from porn and prostitution. Nobody wants to look at what happens. Sociological studies are just ignored... but tv shows about happy hookers, that's reality.

[seabeyond]

10. tv shows about happy hookers, that's reality

yup

[redqueen]

11. I'm dreading DU3

I keep thinking of the fact that even as bad as it is now, it will be even worse with no moderation ... imagine what any feminist-related thread will be like. Overrun by MRAs and woman haters with their usual proud idiocy... which very few women will even bother to comment on, and even fewer men.

[seabeyond]

12. me, too. but reality, i have learned to have a little faith. this board has worked harder than

most in keeping a little of the humanity as who we are as a people to continue civility. if there are no bounds, then this board becomes trash like about every other board that is out there. and yes, people will walk away. of both gender. as much as we like to promote that males are all that and all males do it, if he says otherwise he lies, simply is not true. a few males dont realize they are not allowed to say, dont do porn. most males that dont do porn, dont even go into the threads. why? cause they are not interested in the subject. they have nothing to defend. it is not in their world. so, the threads are difinitely skewed, when we look at these threads.

we will see. if there is not balance, we won't participate. but, i truly cannot imagine that will be allowed to happen. all these years here, i have MOSTLY felt respect from mod and adm. always with adm. and most mods. even if they don't particularly like me, or agree with me.

that counts

[redqueen]

13. Yeah, I think that whole 'no moderation' thing

must have been a misunderstanding... I read a post by Skinner somewhere where he mentioned the role of people who would help moderate the site... or something.