Has Anyone tried Kimkins yet? Join me if you will....

[sagesnow]

Many years ago I was on the Food Addicts(FA) Diet which was an off shoot of Overeaters Anonymous. FA insisted that bread and wheat products be eliminated completely from the diet. They suggested that all processed foods be cut out and also any "binge food". My binge foods include frosting, popcorn, cheese, buttery rice, 3 Musketeers, M&M's, Ice Cream and many others. I quit the FA group because I found them to be too rigid.
Now, in the past year, my Dr tells me I have Celiac Disease and cannot eat wheat or wheat products. I feel like I have come full circle and realize that FA diet was right for me. I do need to cut out most high carb and all processed food. Kimkins is close to the old FA diet and it did work, "if I worked it!". Kimkins is a simple to follow version of Atkins and it gives many people as speedy a weight loss as Stomach bypass surgery, without the dangerous side effects of that operation.
If anyone wants to join me please chime in and post about your progress....and setbacks. I plan to KISS (keep it simple Simon) and not let my normal backsliding stop me. I had to try 5 times before I was able to quit smoking, so I am going to keep trying until I get it right with food.
Even if you are not going to to do Kimkins, please post here your meal plan, minutes of excercise and how you stop the stinking thinking and get through the rough times, like birthday parties and Christmas. I'd like to hear what Food Plan you are on and how it is going.
If you are interested,
The Kimkins diet has an initial start up fee of $60.00 for life time membership, but that is a drop in the ocean of what I've spent on binge food and Diet Programs. Kimkins I am not making money from the Kimkins program, so this is really not spam.

[supernova]

1. Honestly, this is the first

I've heard of it.

In looking at the website, it's low carb + low fat?

[AllieB]

2. Kimkins is the Stillman diet from the 1960s-it is not original

I have strong reservations about low carb and low fat together being healthy or a long term solution for weight loss. Kimkins advocates less than 1000 calories a day, which is insufficient to meet the metabolic and nutritional needs of someone trying to lose weight. Unlike carbs, fat is an essential nutrient. Fat makes one feel satiated, and helps supress the appetite. There is a lot more than restricting calories and fat in the weight loss equation. The diets of Dr. Atkins and Dr. Michael and Mary Dan Eades are both rooted in science and a long history of weight-loss and health benefits. Kimkins is not a doctor.

BTW Stillman died in the 1970s of heart disease.

[Systematic Chaos]

3. I'm a follower of Dr. John McDougall myself

His plan couldn't be more the polar opposite of this.

He recommends a fat intake for someone in my condition of 3% to 5% of calories, which is enough to make any fat-soluble nutrient accessible by the body. For me that is an impossible target but I still try to get as close as possible. I feel my healthiest when I eat brown rice and potatoes with veggies and beans to go with them, and feel noticably different when I deviate from that with meats and junk food. :shrug:

[AllieB]

5. It's good that his diet works for you

I hope you're supplementing to get the essential amino acids, Vitamin D, and B-12 that are lacking in a vegan diet. I was a vegan for years and it nearly ruined my health. But if the diet is working for you, more power to you! Good luck with your weight loss.

Regards,
Allie

[lizerdbits]

11. I tried the McDougall Program For Maximum weight loss

Stopped after 3 weeks having gained 15 lbs. I didn't know it was possible to explode that fast eating beans, grains and vegetables. I don't know if it was the diet itself or the inability to do stressful exercise after about 3 days. It took me a year to lose that 15. But I have PCOS/high testosterone and a lot of women have the best luck with weight control doing a lower carb diet which is mostly what I do. If it works for you that's great, I think different people respond well to different plans.

[Lisa0825]

4. I read up on Kimkins not long ago...

If I recall correctly, it was like Atkins but with an emphasis on leaner meats, and less fat (not NO fat; a small amount of fat is all that is needed for vitamins to be soluble). The diet plan I did for 2 months to make quick progress before my vacation sounds kind of similar. It was Lyle McDonald's "Rapid Fat Loss Handbook: A Scientific Approach to Crash Dieting." He explains that while no one will say crash diets are good, there are times when they are necessary, and there are times when people will WANT to do them, so if someone is going to do that, he'd rather tell them how to do it as safely as possible. His diet is referred to as a "Protein Sparing Modified Fast," and such diets have been around since the fifties. I looked it all up on medline before I bought the book.

My situation was that I had WANTED to exercise and diet moderately, to lose weight before my vacation, but I ended up with viral pneumonia and couldn't exercise for over 2 months, without hacking up my lungs. I was eating better, but being sick, my metabolism seemed to be crawling because I had no energy to do anything. So, when I was finally feeling well, I started exercising, and decided to try a very strict diet to make as much progress as possible before the trip. Of the 43 pounds I have lost since mid January, 32 of them came off between February 26th and April 30th (9 weeks). During that time, I was mostly going by Lyle's book, but I wasn't *quite* as strict about the low fat. I used low fat cheese, rather than no-fat, for example. Cheese is a deal breaker for me!LOL!

I did a LOT of fajita salads or tortilla-less fajita dinners. I ate a lot of grilled chicken and boiled shrimp, cherry tomatoes, and lettuce. I stayed around 800 calories for those 9 weeks. I have also been seeing a diet doctor, and she has me on phentermine, which I have really done well on. I have a post in this forum with more info about that program.

I continued to exercise, but I laid off the weights during this time, because it is hard to lose fat and build muscle at the same time (competing interests). I did keep up with walking, and started adding intervals of jogging.

Now that I am back from my vacation, I am dieting more moderately, just watching the overall calories and making better choices (whole grains, for example), and I am up to jogging 2.5 miles. I plan to do a 5K in 3.5 weeks, and I will be meeting with a trainer this week to get back into strength training. I have about another 35 pounds to go!

[Grey]

6. Kimkins works for some and not others....

I lost a fair bit of weight but I went to the 'low carb friends.com' site and read the Kimmer (Kimkins) from the 'Greatest Posts' page.

You can get almost all the information you want about 'Kimkins' and get for free. There is lots of great advice and information about all sorts of diets and eating plans. I really like the people on the forums at lowcarbfriend.com and have learned so much from them.

Right now I am using the book Intuitive Eating and trying to change my thinking patterns. I am learning to eat more slowly and be satisfied with less food but it is really hard for the people around me that are so ready to nag, "clean your plate" " How can you waste food like that?" I just tell them "I'll save it for later....." and you know what? sometimes I do eat it and sometimes not, but it's my choice.

and hey, somethings working, my jeans are getting looser.

[AllieB]

7. Hi Grey. I used to frequent lowcarbfriends.com too,

but there were way too many fundies on that site for my taste, and way too many bigoted remarks that went unchallenged. I occasionally got to http://forum.lowcarber.org/ to catch up on trends and nutritional news.

Low carb/glycemic is the only thing that keeps the weight off me and gives me tons of energy!

[Grey]

8. I hear you, sweetie,

I simply can't do the starch thing, I get my carbs from veggies.

I took a friend to visit her diebetic practioner, this woman had the ******* to tell my friend to cut back on eating so many veggies as they are "full of sugar". For a snack she would be better off with "crackers & cheese". good thing I wasn't in the room at the time.

I'm sort of doing a Kimkins/atkins/intuitive thing and am down from 187lbs to 153lbs this morning. Mostly its just really low starch and chew my food down to a paste before swallowing (so lumps can't sit in the gut and rot) Sorry. thats not a pleasent thought, but that is what happens.

My sister tells me how 'gross' I am when I talk this way but then, She weights over 200 pounds. I didn't mean to offend anyone, Sorry.

I'm off to check out that forum, thanks.

[susanna]

10. Crackers and cheese?

Over eating vegetables? To a diabetic? OMG. No wonder we're screwed. Wow, Grey - I completely understand your point (good thing you weren't in the room at the time). :-)

[susanna]

9. AllieB, ITA...

I really like lowcarber.org. It's a great site, lots of helpful people.

I found the same as you - I am exceedingly sensitive to sugars, be they straight sugar or through refined carbs. I'm on a whole foods/no sugar/no high fructose/no processed food/no refined carb regimen and I've maintained a healthy weight for six years that way. My chol (all numbers) and tris are great; my doctor said to me: "you must be eating low fat - good for you!" I told him: "Uh...no. I'm eating real food." He just shook his head, told me whatever I'm doing works, so I should stick with it. Doh. :-)

[chatnoir]

12. I'm surprised no one has posted that Kimkins is a scam yet

I feel obligated to point this out for anyone contemplating joining. The person behind Kimkin's (Heidi Diaz) is a fraud and scam artist. This is just a sampling of sites regarding this. There are many more.

http://www.3fatchicks.com/Diets/Diet_Articles/Kimkins%3A_Anatomy_of_a_Diet_Scam/

http://kimkinsexposed.wordpress.com/

http://www.slamboard.com/category/kimkins-diet/

http://www.kimkinscontroversy.com/