KOEB Meeting -- 2/21/06: Finding His Veto Edition

[Patsy Stone]

Hi! I'll be back later.

[SharonRB]

1. You're fast!

See ya later. Enjoy the skating.

[Patsy Stone]

2. I thought there would be one already.

I love Sasha Cohen. :)

[SharonRB]

3. Is she skating now?

Duh -- I forgot have a small TV near the computer now that I can put network TV on. I can watch both at the same time.

[Patsy Stone]

4. No

But Kimmie Meissner is next.

ed: sp.

[SharonRB]

5. Look at my edited message.

I forgot I have a small TV near the computer now.

[Patsy Stone]

8. Verrrry fancy schmancy!

She's doing well, our Kimmie.

[ralps]

6. Hi Patsy, Hi Everyone, Yes Georgie veto the bill

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[SharonRB]

7. Hi, ralps

My head is exploding today. As soon as I heard he'd veto, I felt like crying. He wants us all to die.

[ralps]

32. Hi SharonRB, sorry I didn't get back to you until now, I'm trying to pick

up my living room. :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[SharonRB]

34. It must be awfully big and heavy

:rofl:

[ralps]

40. LOL for sure, I looked at my post again!! It is a real mess though

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[SharonRB]

41. I just couldn't resist

[Patsy Stone]

9. What an asshole.

That's right, Agent Mike! I said ASSHOLE!!! How much $$ does * get? Huh?

[SharonRB]

10. F**king Asshole

Isn't strong enough. I may start a contest to find a stronger name.

[SharonRB]

11. She looks so young.

[Patsy Stone]

12. 16

What was I doing at 16? Not skating in the Olympics, I can tell you that. :)

[Wetzelbill]

13. I was an idiot

now I'm only kind of one.

It's amazing to see how people so young can be so skilled like that. :)

[Patsy Stone]

18. Hey! I was an idiot too

A smart idiot, but I couldn't even drive.

Nice to see you! :hi:

[Wetzelbill]

22. nice to see you

too.

I still hate to drive. Never have liked it. :)

[Patsy Stone]

97. I do love driving

But back then I was terrified. I didn't learn to drive until I was about 20. Your peach pie looks delicious! May I have some a la mode?

[Wetzelbill]

99. nothing but service around here

:)

[Patsy Stone]

100. Too kind

Yum! Thanks!

[Gogi]

106. I knew we had something in common!

If my mother had'nt forced the issue I would'nt have driven until I was 20 either.

[Patsy Stone]

111. Since we never had a car

it was never an issue. :) We took the bus everywhere and then when I went to college there was a lot of public transportation. When I came home from school, I had no choice but to learn.

Hi, gogi! Missed you in NYC. :hi:

[Gogi]

122. Maybe I can hop the train and...

meet you in Chicago sometime. Still haven't gotten my septic system replaced yet...maybe Thursday.

[SharonRB]

17. Wow -- that's so young.

She did a good job, from what I could see.

[WolverineDG]

14. Hi all!!

:hi:

Wow, does Shrubbie think that Repubs will stand with him on this port deal with mid-terms coming up? Is he on drugs?

dg

[SharonRB]

19. Hey, DG

How ya doin' tonight?

[WolverineDG]

56. Hey Sharon!

I'm doing fine! I've finally stopped sounding like Reeter. ;)

How's things your way? :hi:

dg

[SharonRB]

57. Okay except for my sore throat.

[WolverineDG]

63. It wasn't me!!

I swear! ;)

Seriously, I hope that clears up soon! :)

dg

[SharonRB]

65. Who else was sick?

[WolverineDG]

77. Of all the crap I had last week

a sore throat was not one of them!

dg

[Patsy Stone]

98. Not me anymore.

And it's been a while since I would have been contagious. Sorry you're sick. NY is a crowded place -- maybe it was the pashmina salesman? :)

[Patsy Stone]

24. Again, you mean?

Hi, DG! I thought Jimmy Carter was on drugs when he said it's all okay.

[WolverineDG]

51. That's a Scooby-Doo moment

Ruh-roh!

Yeah, I fell out of my chair when I heard Carter thought it was okay.

dg

[gkhouston]

124. it's an amazing lose-lose for him

if he backs down and doesn't veto, he loses face. If he does veto, he loses even bigger. How'd he end up in this corner? :crazy: And none of this has anything to do with how dangerous it factually is to have a foreign company running the port while the US handles security; it's the perception of the situation that's gonna kill him. For years and years, the Bush/Rove mantra has apparently been that they create their own reality via PR and I've always thought that real reality was gonna come up and bite them in the ass eventually. Well, we've seen a lot of ass-biting with the Iraq war and the economy and such, but here's this port thing that sounds like the danger could be more myth than fact and it's biting him big time. President, meet petard.

[seito]

15. Does anyone smell a mutiny

I can just imagine the closed door meetings

:rofl:

Go Georgie, stick to your guns and let your own arrogance bring down your regime and place the next nail in your grand legacy.

[ralps]

16. Meow, Meow, Meow, Meow!!!!! FEED ME!! That's what my kitties say to

me every morning & every evening. LOL :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[ralps]

23. A 33 Lb kitty That eats 6 Lbs of pork a day???? I don't think i got the

pork poundage right?? or did I. :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Patsy Stone]

112. Well, you match the story

and I'm not sure that was accurate, because that's a lot of food! I thought my cat was big at 15 lbs. He's just a little thing after all. :)

[CC]

130. If that cat eats that

much food a day I'm glad I don't have to clean his litter box.

[Wetzelbill]

20. getting run over with that tractor

that reminds me of my childhood on the farm.

Jim J. and Sandra Bullock? :)

[Wetzelbill]

21. that cat has about the same sized waist I do

hahahahahaha :rofl:

Wow, that thing is huge! 33 pounds, good lord. He couldn't catch a mouse to save his life.

[SharonRB]

25. Shout out -- some Michigan State guy had a run-in

with some of our guys during the game Saturday night. We lost, though.

[crispini]

26. Hello dahlings!

Late, but just popping my head in the thread to say HI. :hi:

[SharonRB]

28. Hi, sweetie!

How you doing tonight?

[crispini]

33. Just got back from yoga.

So I'm feeling all mellow. And yourself? :hi:

[SharonRB]

36. I've had a sore throat all day

I probably picked it up in NY. I had some Jewish penicillin when I got home and am drinking tea now. It's feeling better for the time being.

[crispini]

49. If it's a cold, zinc lozenges kick ass.

Feel better soon! :hug:

[SharonRB]

54. Thanks -- I don't think it's a cold

My throat is the only thing that's bothering me. I did have a Cepacol lozenge earlier, though, and will have another one.

[Patsy Stone]

86. Hi, girl

Glad to hear you're mellow. :hi:

[WolverineDG]

60. hiya crispy!

Still going to class & turning yourself into a pretzel? :thumbsup:

:hi:

dg

[crispini]

67. Hey girl!

You betcha. Here's one of my favorites:

[RevCheesehead]

101. *drool*

If yoga classes come with him, I'll take a dozen! :9 :loveya:

[crispini]

104. Yoga guys are hot, hot, hot.

Wish there were more of 'em.

[Wetzelbill]

107. I bought a tape and used to try it out

I herniated a disc in my spine a few years ago. It helped me strengthen it back up quite a lot. I would actually like to try it more. I am a little bit farm hick macho, so I just haven't ever gotten the sand to join a class. I know my friends back home would terrorize me if I did, lol. :)

[crispini]

108. You know there are yoga GIRLS in class, don't you?

And yoga girls are quite often pretty hot themselves. :evilgrin:

[Wetzelbill]

109. don't think I haven't thought long and hard about that

probably could have said that better.

If I did take one I would do it on the U of AZ campus at the Rec Center. My heart might explode so it might not do me much good.

:evilgrin:

[Olney Blue]

27. Keith covers the rookie justices- I love this subject.

Hi everyone!
:hi:

[SharonRB]

29. Hi, Olney

:hi:

[crispini]

30. Chief Justice Roberts has the nerdiest smile.

Honestly, why can't he grin like normal people? He looks like somebody TOLD him to keep his lips closed. What's up with that?

[Olney Blue]

35. Too much kissing- wore his lips off.

[bettyellen]

39. they'd get a match on his bite, i'm sure. there's something scary about

that man. :hi:

[SharonRB]

42. Hey, be

How are you tonight?

[bettyellen]

68. a little hoarse myself. i think it's all the dry heat i've been blasting.

hope you feel better, too!

[SharonRB]

69. Thanks!

[crispini]

52. Bwah!

Too funny!

[Patsy Stone]

92. Hi, BE!

I didn't watch, so I have no idea what you're talking about, but I wanted to say hi. I haven't seen that show you mentioned last night, and I'm definitely gonna check it out.

:loveya:

[Olney Blue]

31. I just love it when some guy says he knows what to do with my rights.

Hey punk, back away from my uterus.

[crispini]

53. True dat.

Hey Olney! :hi:

[Olney Blue]

61. Hi Crispini!

I'm glad you had fun in NY!
:hi:

[Olney Blue]

37. Orin Hatch- worst person- brain in backside. Ouch! Good snark.

[ralps]

38. Today's worst person in the world is.... Orin Hatch LOL (sp?)

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Olney Blue]

43. WTF? Is this blonde from the eighties? Or is it Farrah Fawcett redux?

[tatia_s]

45. what is wrong with this woman's eyes?!

She looks like someone is goosing her off-camera.

[Olney Blue]

50. Hi tatia! How is school?

:hi:

[tatia_s]

91. Hey there!

School is busy. And frustrating.

But what can you do, eh?

[Olney Blue]

93. Just know that there will come a day, when you've taken your LAST TEST!

:bounce:

[Patsy Stone]

114. I'm going with thyroid issues

or too many hairspray fumes and shopping at Wal-Mart. Hi, tatia!

[crispini]

46. And that sweater!

And she's kinda bug-eyed, too.

[SharonRB]

47. She is scary, indeed!

[WolverineDG]

66. At first I thought that was her mug shot n/t

[Olney Blue]

76. More like she had a shot from a mug!

[WolverineDG]

83. LOL!!

:hi: Olney!!

dg

[crispini]

44. I have to admit, I would've bribed someone to get out of P.E.

I hated gym.

[SharonRB]

48. LOL -- me, too

I was terrible at it -- the only D I ever got was in Phys Ed (other than one semester in chemistry, which I also hated and sucked at).

[crispini]

59. They should teach yoga in schools.

Or cycling, or dancing-- anything that is noncompetitive and does not require picking teams! I was always so uncoordinated and afraid of being hit by the ball and so on. Volleyball, softball, all of that stuff-- I just SUCKED at it.

[SharonRB]

62. Oh, I also hate yoga

I thought it would be good for my back, so I signed up a few years ago, but I couldn't do any of the positions. I was awful. I paid for 10 sessions and went twice.

[crispini]

73. LOL, nobody can do the poses after two classes.

I'm just now getting some right and I've been going for three months. :silly:

[WolverineDG]

70. I hated PE too

The only quarters I liked were the winter ones when we had to do stuff indoors, so we got to do fun stuff like bowling, crab soccer, & square dancing. The only outdoor activity I liked was archery, but that was only offered in junior high.

dg

[bettyellen]

72. OMIGOD, this guy on Oxygen is wearing PINK FUZZY HANDCUFFS!!!!

some latino dude is latched to the roll bar on a convertible.
the girl from that 70's show is in it. what is this? the guide says Gia, but it isn't.
they're PINK!!! bwaaaah!

[crispini]

75. LOL!

Life imitates art?

[bettyellen]

78. you haven't heard of this either? she got drunk and married this guy....

and can't remember a thing. they are in mexico, and she drank a special secret tequila that makes you forget.

[seito]

82. I subbed in a PE class today

They had the kids do an obstacle course. It was laid out so that the kids moved like blood through the circulatory system. They went through the right atrium and ventricle, and then through the pulmonary artery to the lungs where they picked up oxygen and turned red. Then they moved into the left atrium and ventricle out the aorta and through the body. The kids went through obstacles that represented the valves, and tunnels for the vessels. They loved it, and developed a better understanding of the circulatory system. They also developed a better understanding of the benefits of exercise and fitness. I was very impressed.

[WolverineDG]

87. Now THAT would have been fun

I subbed in PE once when I was in college. One of the boys coaches came over & started ragging me about not being interested in sports & what-all (hey, asshole, I'm a SUB, I don't have to be interested in sports for this job), then told his players to stop "acting & crying like girls." :grr: Then he wondered why I turned him down flat when he asked me out (it was a Friday).
What an idiot!

dg

[Patsy Stone]

88. That's really cool!

But, um, how did they "turn red"? :hi:

[seito]

95. Magic

:wow: or make believe. The obstacle course was blue on one side and red on the other.

[Patsy Stone]

96. :) Very, very cute.

What a unique way to teach.

:yourock:

[crispini]

90. That sounds great!

What a fun lesson plan!

[gkhouston]

126. LOL, I had to take a year of PE in college for NO credit :-(

but they sorted us all out by ability during freshman week. I ended up in the klutz class and we had fun because we did a wide variety of sporty things over the course of the year. For everyone in the class there were one or two things where you did really well and one or two where you were awful and a whole bunch of stuff in the middle and since everyone was at about the same level of ability, the team sports worked out well. About the only thing that sucked was archery because we did it during monsoon season and you had to wade through water to get your arrows out of the targets. We simply stopped wearing shoes to class. ;-) The kids in the jock classes did fewer sports for longer periods and seemed a little envious that they got stuck with jogging for six weeks while we were a variety of stuff. :rofl:

[Olney Blue]

79. Wow a D in PE? That's pretty bad!

What did you do (or not do?)

[SharonRB]

128. I participated, I just suck at anything physical

I didn't get Ds every semester, but I was awful. In college, at least we had a decent variety of things to take -- international dance, archery, bowling. I did okay there.

[gkhouston]

125. PE itself wouldn't have been so bad if the

people "teaching" it had actually been teachers. Is is just me, or were a lot of gym teachers really dysfunctional people?

[Botany]

55. Big Hair Alert

Drop the can of hair spray and back away from the mirror.


That was a school principal?

"If you don't get good grades ...."

R children be learnt good at the skool of that foxy principal.

[Olney Blue]

58. Hi Botany, how are you doing?

:hi:

[Botany]

64. Good

did I ever tell you that you are my Fav?

:rofl:

[Olney Blue]

71. How about a June wedding? I'll check my calendar.

[Botany]

81. I am for skipping the weddings ......

..... and going right to the honeymoons.

[Olney Blue]

94. Apparently, you aren't the only one.

[RevCheesehead]

102. ROFLMAO

:rofl:
Georgie only wishes he looked that good!

[crispini]

105. Bwah!

That's hysterical!

[WolverineDG]

74. Boyfriend, you need to get new glasses

if you think that principal is foxy.

:crazy:

dg

[Botany]

85. What the hell was that thing?

:rofl:

[bleever]

80. "I immediately turned it over to the districk."

:rofl:

[Patsy Stone]

84. Okay, I'll be watching the rerun.

:hi:

[Botany]

89. English as second language?

I thought students MADE a grade ......
but those little nippers done be gettin' dar grades.

America's educational future is secure as our ports and as safe as Dick Cheney's
hunting partners.

[Berry Cool]

103. Sorry, but will have to catch Keith on the flip-flop tonight.

I missed the first half to watch skating. Will watch the re-air at midnight and record that. Looking forward to it!

Feel better, Sharon!

Oh, and I hated gym class too.

Is it too late for some of that peach pie, Bill? :-)

[Patsy Stone]

110. The pie was delicious.

I hated gym class too --not good with the hand/eye coordination. Sorry you couldn't join us in NYC. Maybe next time?

[Patsy Stone]

116. Remember:

The higher the hair, the closer to God. Bless her. :P

[RevCheesehead]

117. as in "St. Marge Simpson," right?

:evilgrin:

[Patsy Stone]

120. IMHO

This woman could only have benefited from St. Marge's heavenly blue beehive. :evilgrin:

[Patsy Stone]

113. I disagree with Evan Kohlmann

I don't think it's okay. I have a problem with a state-run corporation, from any other country, running port security. I don't see why it's so cost ineffective to have Americans do it. Don't we have an unemployment problem in this country?

The fact that it's all wrapped up in he BFEE is a problem. The fact that the UAE has so many ties to terrorism is a problem. The fact that NOW he's gonna veto something, and it's something that looks this bad is a problem.

What a maroon. When I agree with Frist, something's very, very wrong.

Floaties for Craig :loveya:. Floaties for KO for marking 45 days from now on his calendar to "revisit the issue". :loveya:

No floaties for Evan, in need of a comb as usual, due to excessive use of the word "canard". He nust have said it at least three more times than necessary in that interview.

Kudos to the caption dept. for "#5 Political Petard". :loveya:

I also loved when KO said that they were looking all day for a Repub to say * was right and "we got nothin'"!

[WolverineDG]

123. His face was also crying out

for a razor. Dude, didn't you get the memo that "grunge" is out?

I don't agree with him, either. It is NOT okay for a country with ties to terrorism to be in charge of our ports. Sure, Chertoff is out there saying the deal is ok & assurances have been made, but why should I trust Chertoff & the others who screwed up so horrifically on Katrina (and are STILl screwing up, but that's another show)? And yes, I have a problem in that a British company was running our ports beforehand. As we are constantly reminded ad infinitum by the neocons (but only when it suits their purposes), things are different now in this post-9/11 world. Nothing has been done to beef up security at our ports or to check the cargo coming into this country, and until that is done, no foreign-owned company should be given any amount of control over our ports!

dg

[gkhouston]

127. I thought that Evan's point

was that the company does not handle security. It handles the paperwork and the people that move containers around and someone else is supposed to handle security. The true problem is that no one is handling the security because the vast majority of containers go unchecked. I'd hoped we'd get a more obvious answer to, "So, if these guys aren't doing security, exactly what are they doing?" but it's still fuzzy. It sounds like they can tip someone suspicious off to security (duh) but they are not in charge of security.

So, Mr. Bush, Mr. Frist, when are we going to do something real about port security? Before or after the next terror attack?

And along with the shave, could Evan do something about that hair? It's like a dust mop died on his head or something.

[CC]

129. After

That is the way they work, screw it up, wait for something to happen, throw more money at it while making it worse and blame everyone else. Besides his numbers are down, the terra terra terra bs isn't working, he needs a new bullhorn moment.

[Patsy Stone]

132. As the saying goes

It's always easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask permission.

[gkhouston]

133. he can have his friggin' bullhorn moment at his library after he resigns

not on the ruins of another catastrophe. We've already paid far too much for his shortcomings.

[CC]

134. Or in the yard at whatever

prison he ends up in. Unfortunately he has done so much evil already it wouldn't surprise me if he did let something happen for his numbers. I also believe if something did happen it would backfire big time on him. But he is that stupid.

[Patsy Stone]

135. You are correct

I just read the transcript. And you're correct on your other points too -- a big part of the issue is that no one knows what they'll be doing.

I should have said port operations, not port security. Thanks for making me revisit this. Not that I feel any more secure, but at least I'm getting the facts straight. With this administration, that's over half the battle.

Hi, gk!

[gkhouston]

136. port security is one of my issues

couldn't have anything to do with living near the Port of Houston, now could it? :hi:

[Patsy Stone]

138. Nah. :)

Aren't they talking about using Corpus Christi to ship out military supplies? Also DP World? Is that then another port they'll manage?

Yes, remember Kerry going on about 5% of cargo in ports and planes being inspected? No one listened but us chickens, huh?

[gkhouston]

139. apparently not, although I was worried about this even before

Kerry started talking about it... and still nothing's been done. :grr:

[Patsy Stone]

115. Very Scary Icy Things

Attack of the Abdominal Snowman! :rofl:

[RevCheesehead]

118. I will call you George!

I will love you, and pet you, and hug you, and squeeze you....

:rofl:

[Patsy Stone]

119. Rev

I was hoping you would! :loveya:

[RevCheesehead]

121. LOL!

Just wait until the next KOEB meet-up! :hug::loveya:

[CC]

131. A quick hi to all.

Had to watch the late show last night and will tonight. I will be taking pictures of a newborn little girl tonight.:)

[gkhouston]

137. oh, the one you photographed "from the outside"

;-) a while back? How are the new parents doing? And how are you doing?

[CC]

140. Yes that would be the

one. Since mom and dad gave me permission (in writing) to use the pics anyway I want I posted a couple. A warm welcome to the world to new baby girl Reece. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=280&topic_id=13206&mesg_id=13462