KOEB - 11/29 - * has an exit plan? edition

[SharonRB]

[Patsy Stone]

1. Nooooo.

No, he doesn't. Really. Hi, Sharon!

[SharonRB]

3. I know -- he just thinks he does.

Can't wait to hear it.

:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

2. Speech Strategery

Richard Wolffe: Good snark!

Oh, KO, talking about Sy Hersh. :loveya:

[SharonRB]

4. Hersh was just on Tweety

[Olney Blue]

10. I saw Seymour on Tweety. But Tweety barely let him talk!

[SharonRB]

12. He treats all of his guests that way

He's always talking over them.

[Patsy Stone]

15. SOP

Tweety's the smartest person he knows. Oy.

Hi, Olney! :hi:

[Patsy Stone]

18. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

But he's pinging for me:

[SharonRB]

19. Who? Wolffe?

[Patsy Stone]

23. Sy.

I just feel it.

[SharonRB]

25. Hmmm, I didn't get that when I saw him on Tweety

[SharonRB]

6. Ever notice how so many pundits/journalists are landsmen?

Fineman, Hersh, Wolffe (?)...

[Patsy Stone]

14. We're the pasty-faced geeks

The ones whose mothers won't let them play sports. We read a lot. :)

[SharonRB]

16. Yeah, always the sportscaster, never the athlete.

[Patsy Stone]

20. LOL

I was gonna say "always the lawyer, rarely the defendant", but then there's Abramoff.

[SharonRB]

24. He's making a bad name for us all

Otherwise, that would have been a good saying.

[Olney Blue]

5. Shrub is on a mission from God.

:scared:




Hi everyone!

:hi:

[SharonRB]

8. If he's G-d's man

G-d is not very benevolent.

[bleever]

21. Reminds me of a poster I saw plastered on a building downtown

Chicago 25 years ago, of Falwell and Khomeini, that said, "If God is so great, why does he have such lousy spokesmen?"


:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

26. Jesus is coming

and boy is he pissed! :hi:

[SharonRB]

29. He must be the one who knocked that chunk off of the

SCOTUS building right where it said "Equality and Justice for All."

[Olney Blue]

30. LOL

:rofl:

[Patsy Stone]

31. How eerie was that?

Now that you mention it, I can't prove it wasn't him. :)

[SharonRB]

33. Whether it was him or not, I think it was a sign from above

:rofl: I crack myself up tonight.

[bleever]

40. "Court Rejects Sibel Edmonds case; Facade Crumbles."

So true.

[SharonRB]

42. Exactly!

[spooky3]

47. That's a good one--and hello everyone!

:hi:

[bleever]

54. Honestly: if you were God, would you choose * to do your work?

I mean, come on.


:hi:

[spooky3]

61. only so I could laugh at him

[WolverineDG]

84. i don't know about you

but i feel so safe & secure knowing a man with delusions that he's on a "mission from God" has his finger on the :nuke: button.

:sarcasm:

if that's not enough to wake up folks, i don't know what would.

dg

[Patsy Stone]

98. I'm a little upset they're besmirching the good name

of the Blues Brothers.



RIP, John. :loveya:

[Clark2008]

7. Blivet believes he's been touched Divinely..

Oh brother!! :eyes:

[SharonRB]

9. He's touched, alright,

but I don't think it's divinely (or by an angel).

[Clark2008]

13. LOL!!

I haven't heard that expression to describe, erm... the reality-challenged... ahem... in a long, long time.

:hi: Sharon!

[Patsy Stone]

11. Part of a "Divine Drama"

Yes, a tragedy. Slater is scaring me. :scared:

Hi, Clark! :hi:

[Clark2008]

22. Hi Pats!

:hi:

Slater at least chose his words carefully - but, yeah, he scared me, too.

[bleever]

32. How does that saying go? "Those whom the gods would destroy,

they first make mad."


I think that the groundwork is pretty much done.


:hi:

[SharonRB]

36. Enough with the groundwork already

Let's get the demolition phase done -- I'm getting impatient.

[WolverineDG]

86. he's been mad for quite some time

when are the gods going to get around to doing the other stuff?

dg

[Patsy Stone]

92. Floods, tornadoes, hurricanes

Real Old Testament kind of stuff. Hi, DG!

[WolverineDG]

96. what's wrong with

a few well-aimed lightning bolts?? is that not old testament kind of stuff??

:hi: pats!! :)

dg

[CBHagman]

75. Oh, they made me MAD!!

Wayne Slater, to my surprise, seemed to have joined the chorus of pundits and reporters who have proclaimed Bush's faith and sincere deovotion to the same. It's always some variation on "Well, even if you don't agree with him, no one can doubt his faith is genuine." :puke: Jim VandeHei (yes, THAT Jim VandeHei) even did three articles linking Bush to the legacy of Pope John Paul II.

So I let Countdown have it this time. I want nuns and historians and Quakers and God knows who else to weigh in on how much Bush is letting his light shine for Jesus.

My letter:

"This evening, November 29th, Countdown aired a segment on George W. Bush's belief that his mission is somehow God-ordained. You interviewed a Dallas Morning News reporter, Wayne Slater, who repeatedly emphasized Bush's faith, determination, and the like.

"This is only a tiny portion of the picture. For the past five years, I have been treated, almost nonstop, to a chorus of praise for George W. Bush's supposedly steadfast faith and the sincerity thereof. Where is the historical perspective?

"Jesus Himself told His disciples (John 16:2) that there would come a time when those who sought to kill them would believe such actions were the will of God. Anyone with even a casual knowledge of history knows that many wrongheaded and indeed cruel deeds were done in the name of God. I'm sure those who hanged pious grandmother Rebecca Nurse at Salem, racked and burned Anne Askew in Tudor England, and committed savagery during the Crusades believed they were living in the will of God, too. History sheds a different light on those actions.

"If you are going to devote segments on Bush's policy and the basis for it, it's time to get a more fleshed-out view. Where are the historians, members of the clergy, and political strategists who might discern the vindictiveness, pride, and cynicism within the Bush policy? I sincerely doubt Bush had John McCain smeared during the South Carolina primary because Jesus proclaimed it must be so."

[Olney Blue]

85. I would be interested to know if you hear back.

[Patsy Stone]

91. Nice.

I wasn't thrilled with that story either. It seemed so five minutes ago. I think they also forgot to mention that Lincoln, while religious, never belonged to a church.

Hey, CB! :hi:

[CBHagman]

106. Yes, that's an essential detail about Lincoln.

They definitely left that out. Meanwhile, we were treated to LOTS of pictures of Bush and die Frau Gemahlin with their eyes piously closed in prayer. :eyes:

Hi, Patsy! :hi:

[gkhouston]

111. nor, I think, did Lincoln imagine himself to be divinely annointed

Bush's behavior seems to indicate that he feels he can do no wrong and he certainly tolerates no dissent. Lincoln, on the other hand, had a Cabinet of able men, many of whom openly disagreed with and despised him, but he used them and he listened to them.

[RevCheesehead]

112. But, see, I don't agree...

I don't think asshat believes that at all. I think he believes in the idea of personal infallability, and perceives his "faith" as a means to get what he wants. He spends more time talking about God than he does thinking, praying, or listening to God.

I remember seeing a special on PBS about the personal faith of both Kerry and Chimpy. And I recall how the blivet responded to the evangelical fervor of the Moral majority. Somewhere in there, i heard the soundclip "hey, I can use that."

When one's religion becomes a means to achieve personal gain, it is dangerous territory. But when one uses religion and deliberately hurts, destroys, and takes from others, with no regard for the least and the lost, they are doomed. Big, double-dog doomed.

I wish I was his pastor. We'd begin with accountability. :evilgrin:

[gkhouston]

113. hmm, I think you're right

the conviction that he's infallible is so incredibly dangerous because (in his mind, at least) it also means he's not accountable. One of the many differences I see between Bush's faith and Lincoln's (leaving aside that I personally think Lincoln's faith was sincere and Bush's is expedient) is that Lincoln expected to be held accountable at Judgement Day for his actions and I'm not sure that Bush does. Then again, I'm not sure that Bush has ever been brought to book for anything.

[RevCheesehead]

114. Remember that famous Lincoln quote?

when someone asked him if God was on our side, he said something like "Is God on our side? Of that, I do not know, but I most sincerely hope and pray that we are on HIS side."

can you ever imagine the blivet saying something like that?
what? do I hear laughter? :shrug:

[gkhouston]

115. I also remember him saying

that both sides of the Civil War claimed that God was on their side but that at least one side had to be wrong. Implication: both might be. Think you'd ever hear W imply that neither side of a war might be the "right" side?

[RevCheesehead]

116. *scratching head*

I think that's part of the same quote. I'm too lazy to look it up. :)

Blivet? Consider options? If it weren't so damned true, I'd laugh.

[Catherine Vincent]

17. Oh goody!

Keith's goanna play his "Hall of Shame" video! That is hilarious! I always get a chuckle on Swaggert's crying, trembling lips and all! Haha! :hi:

[Olney Blue]

41. Hi Catgirl!

:hi:

Yes, the Swaggert clip is hilarious.

[bleever]

27. Wow: Milbank just dissed Rawstory over the Wurmser story...

though we don't know yet whether or not it is accurate.


I say, kudos to Rawstory!

[SharonRB]

28. Hi, Bleev

Yeah, I figured he was talking about RawStory, too.

[bleever]

37. KO was asking specifically about a Rawstory report on Ralston's

logging of calls for Rove.

That kind of put down from the WaPo is a definite mark of prestige, especially if RS turns out to have been right.

[SharonRB]

38. I must have missed that part

I was talking about when he referred to the story about Wurmser, Hannah, et al.

[Patsy Stone]

93. "I've been thrown out of better places than *this*!"

Sure, if they really are viable competition, Dana would have no choice but to dis them. Go, Rawstory!

[lala_rawraw]

99. Thanks guys... now see my post on this

Because he actually did not discuss what we reported, just some story he pulled out of his arse... how is that for dissing?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=315&topic_id=28392&mesg_id=28419

[Patsy Stone]

101. Larissa, for about one second...

You almost sounded surprised about that. :rofl:

Great work! Always a pleasure to see you. :hi:

ed: you linked to bleever's post.

[Patsy Stone]

108. Girl?

I think your thread done got locked! Oops. And I was gonna post my congratulations. :)

[lala_rawraw]

109. WTF??? Why did it get locked????

You have to be kidding me:(

[Patsy Stone]

34. Maybe Robo-deer was threatening the drivers?

You know we have that new gun law here... :rofl:

[WolverineDG]

88. actually, they're targetting spot-lighters

"hunters for sport" = assholes who use spotlights to blind deer & shoot them before they can get away. they do this because they're too stoopid to go hunting for real.

:grr:

dg

[Patsy Stone]

100. I know

We have all kinds of yahoos down here. Still, if one of them doesn't try and use that new law as a defense, I'll be shocked.

Hey, didja know we have a town called Two Egg? I'm talking backwards...

[Olney Blue]

35. Robo-deer!

Wow, that's strange- a sting operation for deer-hunters.

[SharonRB]

39. Did anyone catch KO and Dan today?

KO told him about the guy who pulled the truck and Dan did a great impersonation of Rita Skeeter.

[bleever]

43. I forgot: props to Keef for tying the TO story to the JFK assassination in

the intro.


:applause:

[SharonRB]

45. Well, Specter was Mr. Magic Bullet

[Olney Blue]

44. Looks like Arlen's hair is growing back.

[bleever]

46. LOVE the ashes on the football field story!!!

ROFLMAO.


:rofl:

[SharonRB]

48. I'm still surprised they didn't get a Motown act for halftime

They haven't announced the pre-game show yet, though, so there's still a chance.

[Patsy Stone]

49. What the HELL happened to Ric Flair?

OMG. Steroids MUCH?

[Clark2008]

50. OK... the crotch pull last night and tasers in the balls tonight...

...is Keith trying to tell us something very personal?

:rofl:

[Patsy Stone]

53. LOL

My boss would not stop laughing at the taser story today. He told everyone and made us watch the video. Was I harassed? :rofl:

[SharonRB]

51. Check out this nauseating photo on a thread in GD

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5479149

[Olney Blue]

56. That's disturbing!

[SharonRB]

59. Extremely so!

Is she in ecstacy or what?

[Olney Blue]

68. Looks like she had several grams of it.

[SharonRB]

70. LOL

:rofl:

[Patsy Stone]

52. Did everyone see this article?

Does * know about these?

Special sneakers speed crossers' run for the border
By Elliot Spagat
Published: 11.17.2005

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

SAN DIEGO - The high-top sneakers cost $215 at a San Diego boutique, but the designer is giving them away to migrants before they cross to this side of the U.S.-Mexican border. These are no ordinary shoes.

A compass and flashlight dangle from one shoelace. The pocket in the tongue is for money or pain relievers. A rough map of the border region is printed on a removable insole.

They are red, white and green, the colors of the Mexican flag. On the back ankle, a drawing of Mexico's patron saint of migrants.
On this side of the border, the shoes sit in art collections or the closets of well-heeled sneaker cognoscenti.

On the other side, in Tijuana, it's a utilitarian affair: Immigrants-to-be are happy to have the sturdy, lightweight shoes for the hike - or dash - into the United States.

http://www.azstarnet.com/news/102932.php

[bleever]

55. Ooh, Monica in suede, jeans, and mid-sized heels...

excuse me for a few moments.



:7


ed: had "swede" instead of "suede".

:rofl:

[Patsy Stone]

62. I prefered "in Swede"

Sounded a little like Gull Bay. :rofl:

[SharonRB]

57. Why does it not surprise me that MJ's kids aren't his?

[Patsy Stone]

69. I was more surprised when he said they were.

I never thought he actually did the nasty with her. I always envisioned a turkey baster.

[SharonRB]

71. Yeah, me too.

[RevCheesehead]

102. I'm glad we're past thanksgiving....

because I'll never look at a turkey in the same way again. :scared:

[Patsy Stone]

103. You should have heard me laugh

this weekend when I went shopping for some cooking supplies and arrived at the turkey basters/flavor injectors. I think I turned into a 14 year old at that moment. The jokes would not stop.

[RevCheesehead]

104. I'm not sure what you mean...

when you say "at that moment." ;)

[Patsy Stone]

105. Rev?

:spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:

[RevCheesehead]

107. Bwahahahaha!

Thank you. May I have another?

[RevCheesehead]

58. Whew - finally made it.

Hi, everyone! :hi:

[SharonRB]

60. Hi, Rev

:hi:

[RevCheesehead]

64. Hi, Sharon

Is it just me, or does Keith's show have a different "feel" to it today?

[SharonRB]

67. I haven't noticed, but then I listen more than I watch from the

other room.

[spooky3]

63. Hi, Rev!

[RevCheesehead]

66. Hi, spooky

:hi: nice to see ya!

[Patsy Stone]

65. Hey, Rev!

Nice to see you. :hi:

[RevCheesehead]

74. "I have sinned....."

I slept thru the first half.... please forgive me"

Did Keith snark Falafel boy?

[WolverineDG]

90. no, not tonight

dammit. :evilfrown:

maybe they're working on a good segment for tomorrow.

dg

[bleever]

73. Phew! We need guidance.

Which is worse, the guy pulling the truck with his wang chung, or the guy tasered in the cojones?


:hi:

[RevCheesehead]

78. I dunno....

let's experiment on Botany!

[bleever]

95. This is literary territory that not even Botany would dare to tread;

unless he learned that guy's martial arts thingy...then Watch Out!


:)

[Olney Blue]

79. Hi Rev!

:hi:

[RevCheesehead]

97. Hi Olney!

Hope life is treating you well. :hi:

[Olney Blue]

110. Life is good, oh holey one.

[Patsy Stone]

72. repairs to his "Yatch"

:rofl:

[bleever]

76. Why is the Countdown Apology Hall of Fame so damned interesting?

Captivating, I say.


:thumbsup:

[Patsy Stone]

80. Schadenfreud

That's why. :rofl:

[Greylyn58]

77. Howdy All

Finally got here. Having a bad day, but that's a story for another day.

Keith really rocked tonight. Gotta love our guy. :)

[Olney Blue]

81. Hi Greylyn!

:hi:

Hope the rest of your day is better!

[Greylyn58]

94. Hey Olney Blue

Thanks. I think it will. Trying to make it so anyway.

:)

[WolverineDG]

82. * said brazilian

how many is that? ;)

:hi: everyone!! sorry i'm late!

dg

[bunny planet]

83. Hello ladies, anyone still here.

Happy week after Thanksgiving.
I've been lurking and not posting much the last couple of days.


I loved watching the Countdown apology anthology again tonight.
Ol'Randy Dukester Cunningham is only crying because he got caught. Even in the midst of home renovation (I wake up having had nightmares about appliances), I was never even tempted to buy a 7000 dollar Louis Phillipe commode. And I thought I had champagne taste.

I still don't like Dana Milbank (too smug), although he did get off a good one at Unca Karl tonight. "I'd like to do as much for him as he's done for me over the past 5 years."

How's by all of you?

[Greylyn58]

87. Hey Bunny!

I was late arriving myself. Having a bad day, but hopefully it wil get better.

I think you're right about Cunningham. He and his kind never cry or act sorry until they are caught. They never think of the "what if's" when they are breaking the law, but "Oh my God, he's so sorry" after he gets snagged.

His kind makes me ill!!!

[Olney Blue]

89. Hi bunny!

Nice summary.

It was a good show tonight.