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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 01:35 AM
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What tribes are represented at DU?
Hello all...this forum has been quiet for a while, and I apologize for that, my posting time is somewhat limited at times. My question is, if you are American Indian, what tribe are you? I'm Haida, from southeast Alaska. My tribe originated from British Columbia, and migrated north into the islands in SE Alaska. Here is a link, for whomever is interested...


http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/canada/hai...

My wife, turtlelowe, is Keetowah Band Cherokee

http://www.unitedkeetoowahband.org/History.htm

:hi:
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:47 PM
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1. My maternal grandparents were

Kentucky Cherokee. They were not on any roll that I know of.

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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:30 AM
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2. same story here
Try proving it. It is ridiculous really. Mine show on the rolls but I have not pursued it. It is hard to prove something when you have no records to back you up.

You might want to check out the DVD about the Trail of Tears. It is really well done and after you see this, you'll know why we are not to be found.

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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-13-07 08:30 AM
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25. Cherokee/Choctaw/ Muskogee
Only one great grandmother on the Dawes Roll, although all my grandparents and some ggrandparents were born in Indian Territory (now Oklahoma) before the land run. Some born there before the Trail of Tears. The great-grandmother who was on the rolls was the least 'native' looking one of all, but from the family who was the most financially astute.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:36 PM
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35. Choctaw and Creek - maternal Grand
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:36 PM
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36. Choctaw and Creek - maternal Grand and Great Grandparents
Edited on Thu Feb-19-09 11:37 PM by Fire1
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 05:37 PM
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3. Hi, Petersond...
I hope you're encouraging all your old friends here in Alaska to vote for Diane Benson for U.S. House. Stop into the Alaska forum and see what's going on, and if you haven't been to Diane's website, here it is.

http://www.bensonforcongress.com /

Everybody here in this forum, if you have any money at all to spare for a campaign, please contribute to Diane Benson, a strong Native American, anti-war voice in Congress. DON YOUNG MUST GO.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:39 PM
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6. of course I am...:)
I see you around a bit trying to help Benson out... :) Sorry for not responding in any of those threads....I don't have many friends back home, but I know my bud J from Anchorage is voting for her...first time he every voted too, and he's 30yrs old.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:55 PM
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8. Great!
Yes, I've been pushing Diane pretty hard, I guess, but she's such a wonderful candidate I just want to tell everybody. We may actually have old Don on the run. Have you read any of the newspaper articles I've posted in the Alaska forum about the race? The Daily News has published some really good editorials against him. I'm just waiting for the newspaper's endorsement. If they endorse Young after all the bad things they've written about him over the past month, I'm going to be really, really disappointed. He's such a slime.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:05 PM
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9. A few of the articles yes,
at times, my free time here is awfully limited... :) I remember reading about her months ago, from your posts in the AK forum.....what caught me, was that she was Tlinget...yahoo...some beautiful women in that tribe for sure! My bud J is Tlinget too, and I told him he better help his people out for a change and vote! He was one of those people who "why vote, it don't matter" types...but I got him to register to vote...
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:20 PM
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10. Thank you so much, Petersond....
Edited on Mon Oct-30-06 11:23 PM by Blue_In_AK
The only way we're ever going to get rid of dead weight like Don Young is for REAL people to get involved. From what I know, I don't think Native Americans are very well represented in Congress, and certainly not Native Alaskans, so that's just one more reason for Diane to be there, among so many other good reasons. Personally, I think she's one of the best candidates in the country. I love her fearlessness.

Tlingits and Haidas are kind of like cousins, aren't they? Back before the Europeans, were you friendly with each other or enemies? I don't know much of your history, although I know both tribes come from Southeast.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:34 PM
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11. well
Tlingets/Haida's are enemies...well, were enemies! The Tlingets were the stronger tribe, adn turned many of the Haida/and other PAC NW tribes into slaves as well...the Tlingets/Haida's use to canoe down to WA and start guff too... :) YOu can check my link in the OP, its a little history on the Haida... :)
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:44 PM
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12. Oh, thanks.
When I've got a little bit of time, I'll check that out. I thought I had heard somewhere that there was bad blood between the two tribes at one time. I'm glad THAT'S all over with, aren't you? :)
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 11:56 PM
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13. well, it isn't all over with
at times...people, from each tribe...usually while drunk, bring up old crap when the tribes were warring...and it delves into meaningless violence, but people like that need no reason to fight, they just fight, to fight...

I haven't seen to much infighting, but I have seen it...usually young idiot kids...
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:20 AM
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4. Blackfoot, Cherokee and ?
Blackfoot from my Great-Great Grandma on my Mom's side.

Cherokee on my Dad's Maternal side
Unknown EastCoast tribe on his Fraternal side.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 06:02 PM
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5. Shawnee
My SO's family has always called themselves Cherokee, but we found records that they have been living in the area of WV near PA and MD since the 1600's and likely even earlier. This was obviously too early for the Trail of Tears and in researching it further we found that this group were most likely Shawnee probably connected to tribes ranging down from the Great Lakes. This was earlier than Tecumseh (of Ohio Shawnee) fame. When the tribes were dispersing and being suppressed in the 19th and early 20th c. the Cherokee absorbed the Shawnee, and they were actually known as Cherokee-Shawnee, hence the confusion. Apparently both spoke Algonquian languages, although the Shawnee were a lot further north than the Cherokee. It was interesting to find out the true tribal ancestry of my SO.

I'd like to write somethig about the story of these people, as historical fiction.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 10:41 PM
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7. Good, you should write about them!
There aren't many american indian writers out there... :)
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-06-06 06:52 PM
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14. Oglala Lakota
tribe here.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-08-06 10:58 PM
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15. Its good seeing you around again
:hi:
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chena Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 12:15 AM
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21. marion's ghost............
-My SO's family has always called themselves Cherokee, but we found records that they have been living in the area of WV near PA and MD since the 1600's and likely even earlier. This was obviously too early for the Trail of Tears and in researching it further we found that this group were most likely Shawnee probably connected to tribes ranging down from the Great Lakes. This was earlier than Tecumseh (of Ohio Shawnee) fame. When the tribes were dispersing and being suppressed in the 19th and early 20th c. the Cherokee absorbed the Shawnee, and they were actually known as Cherokee-Shawnee, hence the confusion. Apparently both spoke Algonquian languages, although the Shawnee were a lot further north than the Cherokee. It was interesting to find out the true tribal ancestry of my SO.

I'd like to write somethig about the story of these people, as historical fiction.





if your family was from that area, they were most likely:

wv "guinea" (people fromt chestnut ridge)
mingo
susyni


and in that order, NOT SHAWNEE.



the shawnee were never absorbed by the cherokee. one band, catahecassa's, was placed under the jurisdiction of the cherokee nation in oklahoma. they are now out from under it.


if you were told you were cherokee, you should've stuck with that. please do not just guess at something and then call yourself that. it makes it harder for us to find our relatives..........



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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 07:01 AM
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16. Seneca.......
.....from the Allegheny Rez in New York.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 11:12 PM
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17. Seneca?
Isn't your tribal HQ in Oklahoma?
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-18-06 11:28 AM
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18. Iroquois of New York.....
You're thinking of the Seneca-Cayuga Tribe of Oklahoma. Their Headquarters are in Miami,Oklahoma. We're the Seneca of New York State.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 04:31 PM
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19. Thanks for the info...I didn't know there were
more than 1 Seneca tribes...are there any more, or just the two, from NY, and OK?
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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-19-06 08:02 PM
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20. There are some ......
....Senecas in Ontario in addition to the ones who are part of the Seneca-Cayuga Tribe of Oklahoma. Near Brantford.
There is an independent Band Of Senecas - the Tonawanda Band in the area of Akron, New York, also.
And then of course the ones on the Allegheny Rez, the Cattaraugus Rez and Oil Springs Rez (very few live there, if any at all still live there) - all in New York State.
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itsmesgd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 01:08 PM
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22. muskogee (creek) here
My father's family is Muskogee and I have some (% unknown) misc. Plains from my mother's side. None of my family members have tried to locate their geneological roots. I was the first. It has been frustrating to not find any help from other family members, but I do live in South Georgia, where whiteness is all that apparently matters.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-25-06 06:39 PM
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23. i am 1/16 cherokee on my dad's side and 1/16 creek on my
mother's side :hi:
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-15-07 02:10 PM
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24. Southern Arapaho
Enrolled in Southern Cheyenne-Arapho Tribes.

:hi:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-03-07 03:36 AM
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26. Blackfeet
I am also a little Nez Perce, and some Chippewa Cree.
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sagetea Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 11:13 AM
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31. oohh,
I am Siksikwa, Blackfeet, I don't know if I am on the rolls, my mom is tho`. One of my favorite people is Chippewa Cree, I met him when I was 20, he was on his way to Sundance, wonderful, wonderful man, I really miss him!!
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:00 AM
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27. cherokee on father's side/ creek on my mother's side
:hi:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 10:00 PM
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28. I Am Not Native American, But I Am Honored To Teach In A School That Is About 50% Native
Most of the Native students are Stockbridge-Munsee Mohican. There are some Menominee, Oneida, and Ojibway.
I absolutely love that school.
Just as a mention, if any of you get the Mohican News, There is an article with a picture of a summer school class I am teaching this summer.
-Ding :hi:
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:52 PM
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29. I'm not Native American, but
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 03:59 PM by wicasa
I've lived exclusively on Indian reservations (three of them) since October of 1991.


My second wife was full blood and fluent Mnicoujou Lakota.


My only employers since 1991 have been tribal governments (three of them), tribal colleges (two of them), and myself. (I also worked a tribal college and myself prior to 1991 when I had many Indian clients).
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Zoigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 09:53 PM
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30. Not Native America, but our two
kids are Yakima-Puyallup. Enrolled in the Yakima tribe in
Yakima, WA. z
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 12:31 AM
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32. Choctaw on my mom's side
Great Grandfather is on the Dawes rolls, Mississippi, full blood...I guess that makes me 1/16

I work at a school near the Washoe res. in carson valley NV, about 80% of the kids are native blood, and I love being around them. I wish I felt more turned in to my heritage...my family is SO WHITE!

since I have found the lineage and traced it back to the Rolls, I think I can send in the forms and try to register with the BIA, which would be really cool... anyone ever done it?
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 12:59 PM
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43. I have through the Cherokee tribe.
Here is a link to the Coctaw Nation website: http://www.choctaw.org /

Scroll down the Home page and toward the bottom left you will see links to take you to the pertinent information and the steps you need to to take to join the tribe. My G-grandfather was a horse buyer for the Choctaw during Territorial days. He and my ggrandmother's marriage license is listed in the Choctaw Nation and no where else! Good luck to you on your adventure.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-09 03:37 PM
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33. I Teach Mohican, Menominee & Oneida Students
Our school has about a 50% Native American student population. I am not Native American, but I love it here!
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:50 AM
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34. Onieda here.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-31-09 06:53 PM
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37. Micmac (Mi'kmaq) ancestors

Ancestors on both sides of the family (mom and dad) are French Canadian.

There is some undocumented Penobscot, but I do have a genealogy showing a Micmac woman a few generations back on my father's side.
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cayanne Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 12:39 PM
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38. North Carolina Cherokee

from my paternal Great Grandmother. No record exists of her marriage to my great grandfather.










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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 03:56 PM
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39. Mom's family is partly Osage....
Their last name is Oberly.

mark
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 08:48 AM
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40. Do you know any Rouwalks, or Hartness's? nt
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 11:12 AM
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41. My father was born at the Fort Peck reservation in Montana, his mother's family name was Whitwright
I grew up in the L.A. area, answers to questions I asked as a kid about tribal roots depended on who was asked. I've wondered over the years and thought someone here might be able to tell me.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 03:13 PM
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42. My grandma was 1/2 cherokee
Her father Shadrack Terrell was Cherokee from Georgia/Mississippi and I found him on the Dawes Register
But I look like my grandfather's Irish ancestors, so few people believe me when I say I'm 1/8 Cherokee! lol


Still, learning more about my heritage is something that I am very attached to. I have been in a few drumming circles (not authentic), actually helped with a Sweat Lodge for a while (couldn't partake in ceremony, I was pregnant at the time :( )

But bridging the gap is really hard. If anyone here has links or connections I can find to just begin learning more about my tribe and get involved ...I'd be very grateful!
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RadicalTexan Donating Member (607 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:01 PM
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44. Texas Cherokee
Great-great-great grandfather was Cherokee, from East Texas (Western Band of Cherokee), but not on any rolls (which, personally, I take pride in!).

I do not go around calling myself Indian, nor do I want to become a tribal member, since I do not come from an Indian cultural background (sadly), but I keep this knowledge with me at all times. As for my white heritage, I consider myself more a Celt than anything else, because the Celts were the tribal people of western Europe and were deposed and oppressed by the Romans and, then, the Christians. Aside from my Cherokee heritage, I am almost completely English, Welsh, and Scottish, and I enjoy learning about the indigenous cultures of these peoples which were also largely destroyed.

I try to learn as much as I can about "pagan" ethics and lifeways from both of my backgrounds.

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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-10 11:54 PM
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45. Wow, Just wow.
Really enjoyed this thread.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-10 02:13 AM
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46. Choctaw from my dad's side
Mississippi Band. Also have some other relatives among the MOWA band.

Ended up getting adopted by an Aleut family up in Cordova, and spent a lot of time with hte elders of the Eyak as well.
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