Chew on this: from a military e-list :(

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I think the Propaganda Group should be front and center on DU ! Good luck guys, hope you make the cut, which I'm sure you are since you have 4 STARS on the Greatest Page now :grouphug:


Feel the love :sarcasm: from a military group:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Col xxxxxxxxxxxx USMC (Ret)" <[email protected]>
To: "'Richard Van Luvender'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 6:15 AM
Subject: RE: Marines Held in Brig: the left is rejoicing while Marines
across the world watch in horror


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> From: Richard Van Luvender
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 2:03 PM
> To: Bill Donahue USMC (Ret); Wayne Morris USMC (Ret); Don Greenlaw;
> ' Albano, Frank'
> Subject: Marines Held in Brig: the left is rejoicing while Marines across
> the world watch in horror
>
>
> June 23, 2006
>
> Marines Held in Brig: the left is rejoicing while Marines across the world
> watch in horror - Indict Kerry
>
> Steve Yuhas
>
> When the announcement was made on Tuesday that seven Marines and a navy
> corpsman were being charged for an incident that allegedly occurred in
> Hamdaniya, Iraq the left and people like Cindy Sheehan, John Kerry and
> John
> Murtha must have applauded. After all, so many of them were animated that
> our servicemen were cold blooded killers (Murtha), terrorizing innocent
> Iraqis in the night (Kerry) and doing everything against the laws of war
> (Sheehan) that they must now be thankful that charges are being filed
> against the military warriors.
>
> If someone were to turn on the news and just watch five minutes of the
> talking points of any left wing organization - organizations that decide
> elections and nominees for the Democratic Party - the eight people who
> were
> willing to give their lives for their nation are already guilty.
>
> Why bother with a trial at all - this is a political prosecution not a
> military one and a prosecution that comes just after the mutilated and
> decapitated bodies of two other servicemen who went missing last week were
> found by Iraqi officials: Army PFC Kristian Menchaca, 23, of Houston, TX
> and
> PFC Thomas Tucker, 25, of Madras, OR.
>
> Now military officials in the United States will turn their attention, not
> to avenging the desecration of men who served their country, but to the
> prosecution of eight for an incident for which witnesses are sparse and
> during which time a war was going on.
>
> Those sitting in the brig at Camp Pendleton are all from 3/5 Marine
> Regiment
> and have a presumption of innocence, but the standard of proof and rules
> of
> evidence in the trial of these eight will make the Moussaoui trial look
> like
> a judicial hit parade.
>
> Sitting in the brig awaiting trial for murder and other charges are: Sgt.
> Lawrence G. Hutchins III, navy corpsman Petty Officer 3rd Class Melson J.
> Bacos, Corporals Marshall L. Magincalda and Trent D. Thomas, Lance
> Corporals
> Tyler A. Jackson, Robert B. Pennington, Jerry E. Shumate Jr and Private
> First Class John J. Jodka.
>
> Colonel Stewart Navarre, Chief of Staff for Marine Corps Installations
> West
> said in a statement announcing the charges, "The Marine Corps takes
> allegations of wrongdoing by Marines very seriously and is committed to
> thoroughly investigating such allegations. The Marine Corps also prides
> itself on holding its members accountable for their actions."
>
> That would be great if the defendants in the case were not presumed guilty
> by some Democratic members of Congress (the place from which the funds for
> not only war, but peace come from) and if the rules governing the trials
> of
> these eight people were equal to those that are given to a convicted and
> admitted member of al-Qaeda in federal court. They're not.
>
> Military justice is not like the justice system that would be applied to
> any
> civilian in a civilian court charged with the most heinous of crimes, but
> the swiftness in which this case was put together boggles the mind;
> especially for someone like me who worked in the Marine Corps justice
> system
> and watched as it took months to put together cases regarding simple
> infractions like unauthorized absence or desertion.
>
> Being held in the brig at Camp Pendleton is no luxury and the men there
> are
> probably sitting in the dark bowels of the prison (the brig will not say
> and
> neither will the public information desk at Camp Pendleton), but I know
> that
> prison well and no matter where they are it is tragic that the eight of
> them
> sit rotting in pre-trial confinement because of a report by NCIS (Naval
> Criminal Investigative Service) and the whim of the general in charge of
> IMEF: Lt. Gen. John F. Sattler (who will receive his 4th star from the
> very
> Congress that includes some members who have already sullied the
> reputation
> of not just these Marines, but servicemen and women the world over).
>
> Lawyers for the defendants and their families are looking forward to the
> Article 32 hearing because they will finally be able to look at the
> evidence
> against their clients.
>
> Joseph Casas and Jane Siegal are attorneys representing servicemen caught
> up
> in this political war: their defense may take them to Iraq to interview
> the
> alleged victims and certainly other servicemen. Parents of servicemen are
> adamant about the innocence of their children as well.
>
> John Jodka's father told reporters that the Article 32 hearing is a
> relief,
> "It's sorta like taking a breath after holding your breath for a long
> time.
> (My son) wants to get on with this so he can be vindicated."
>
> Another defense attorney, David Brahms who represents Lance Corporal
> Robert
> Pennington also talked to reporters, "We will see all the evidence. The
> government will tell its story and we will tell ours. . . I'm ready for
> war." And he will be as Brahms is a former Marine Corps Brigadier General
> and suffice it to say that he (as the other defense attorneys) will take a
> political prosecution and prove that is exactly what it is.
>
> Mothers and fathers all across the nation, indeed the world because our
> military is made up of a sea of foreign nationals that want to serve
> America, used to only have to worry if their son or daughter would be
> killed
> or injured in battles for which they volunteer to fight for the United
> States. Now their worries must be turned to not only worry about safety,
> but
> to a judicial system - foreign to most of them because the Uniform Code of
> Military Justice is not exactly coffee table literature - that may take
> their child away from them because the left in this country desires so
> much
> to prove America and our military are always in the wrong.
>
> To the Marine Corps I say that it is shameful that you have given into the
> pressures of the left to pursue charges against people who volunteered to
> serve and whose innocence is merely implied and not implicitly stated. The
> zeal in which these men are being processed is telling and in very short
> order we will know whether or not something bad happened in Hamdaniya,
> Iraq
> or if NCIS or an Iraqi family or other serviceman decided they saw
> something
> that they did not see.
>
> The terrible thing is that we don't yet know and seldom talk about the
> good
> the men and women in uniform are doing for the people of Iraq and although
> showing the world that we prosecute our own may be great for geopolitical
> battles, but it is a living hell for the people involved.
>
> Real lives are ruined because for the rest of their lives these eight men
> will forever be tarnished with the accusation of murder and other
> charges -
> innocent or not - because in the age of the Internet and instant
> communication nothing can ever be erased and that is not only shameful for
> them, but should cause the military to pause and think about recruiting.
>
> Who would want to sign up to serve in the armed forces of the United
> States
> knowing that even when our troops are viciously and barbarically tortured
> and beheaded one day that the very next a group of men would be held in
> the
> brig (jail) for crimes they have not even been accused of committing, but
> whose freedom has been taken because there is sufficient evidence in one
> man's eyes (whose career depends on the blessing of Congress) says there
> is?
>
> And America is watching the prosecutions at Duke University over rape with
> a
> jaundiced eye - take a look at Pendleton!
>
> Would I sign up today - perhaps, but I'd certainly think twice about being
> a
> foot soldier, infantryman or corpsman for in the heat of battle they now
> have to worry not only about their lives, the lives of the men around them
> and the innocent civilians (and G-d forbid offending the delicate
> sensibilities of Iraqis), but now they have to worry about accusations
> that
> will stay with them forever.
>
> It used to be that being a pogue (an administrative person in the Marine
> Corps) made you the butt of jokes - today there is probably a line 100,000
> long yearning to be behind a desk rather than in battle and that is the
> antithesis of what the Marine Corps used to be.
>
> By the way - since NCIS is so into investigating murder - if i remember
> correctly (and I do) John Kerry admitted to having committed war crimes
> and
> murder in Vietnam - no statute of limitations: maybe they should indict
> him?
>
>
> Steve Yuhas is a radio talk show host on News Radio 600 KOGO in southern
> California and may be reached at [email protected] or
> http://www.steveyuhas.com/

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1. Pressure from the left ?

This is what I don't understand, "who is this left they speak of"?

To the Marine Corps I say that it is shameful that you have given into the
> pressures of the left to pursue charges against people who volunteered to
> serve and whose innocence is merely implied and not implicitly stated. The
> zeal in which these men are being processed is telling and in very short
> order we will know whether or not something bad happened in Hamdaniya,
> Iraq
> or if NCIS or an Iraqi family or other serviceman decided they saw
> something
> that they did not see.

Sidebar: Do we "lefties" not blame the Bushie Chickenhawks for putting our troops in these "volunteer" positions? And what happened to the Haditha "rage du jours"?

I'm between a rock and hardplace in cyberworld, attacked by the left and right..OY.