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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 03:01 PM
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 04:34 PM
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1. Propaganda Debunking Group - the name alone should be........
....reason enough to keep this open. Hope this helps. :bounce:
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 03:05 AM
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27. sounds like a bunch of......propaganda to me!
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 07:46 PM
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2. Well, I started the darn thing...
I tried to garner support when the group first launched, but it never took off and I ran out of time just posting to myself :). I was hoping it could be a one-stop shop for debunking right-wing propoganda.

Maybe I'll post one last plea for support and see what happens...
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:27 AM
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41. I didn't relaize it existed.
It looks like it could be very useful. I've added it to my forums list
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:34 AM
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64. I just stumbled on this sub-topic while looking for something else...
I think...or maybe this is it...

I was looking for a topic area where posters can discuss what are commonly referred to as "conspiracy theories" or "tinfoil hat" topics and just randomly clicking on topics that sounded even remotely like my subject.

I guess I'm thinking that theories that are promoted by the * administration are usually laced with propaganda and any thoughts to the opposite would be considered "conspiracy theories."

So is that what this sub-topic would include?
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:04 PM
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3. I vote to keep it.
I use it to research RW emails. If I post one in GD it will sink before there is even a reply.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:19 PM
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5. Yes, it's a keeper.
It needs to be advertised more widely. I just found it now, as noted above. Bt I'll be back.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:18 PM
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4. Maybe post counts are an inappropriate metric in this case.
Frankly, I hadn't been on this forum before now, and I could see myself as maybe using it as a reference pretty often now that I know about it, but without posting a lot to it because I might be here to get information and have nothing to give. One potential use for this forum would be to scan it for LTTE ideas and responses to various right-wing drivel purveyors.

Countering fascist lies is an ongoing need. We have to keep fighting them and not letting them establish the frame of the discourse, not letting them plant falsehoods and disinformation as part of the common fund of "knowledge."

Now that I know about it, I'm gonna go look at it & start using it a lot more. I had often vaguely wished for something like this, not realizing that it was under my nose all this time.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:23 PM
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6. I hope it can be given another chance
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:36 PM
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7. Great area! I didn't even know this area existed. n/t
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:38 PM
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8. Keep it, please!
:patriot:
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:50 PM
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9. Didn't know it existed either.
I'm going to put it in "My Forums".
I think it's good idea, lots of stuff gets asked about on GD and I think it could become a valuable resource.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:20 PM
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80. Same thinking here.
It would be a great place to put any of the things that get argued about constantly.

i mean, last year there was a huge argument about how much oil the military and the war fronts ate up every minute of every day.

And some DU'er carefully showed how large a percentage of the nation's total energy consumption that the military did indeed use up, ony there was no way to mark those
facts froever.

This could be a place where things could be finalized and made an archive of research.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 08:55 PM
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10. I think we're going to be needing this once the campaigns get
going in earnest.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:10 PM
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11. This is a group worth saving
please keep it.


:hi:

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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:13 PM
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12. I had no idea.....
now that I do, please keep the forum. thanks!

:bounce: :bounce:
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:17 PM
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13. This group seems to be one of the best kept secrets on the
boards....Yes, please keep it.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:18 PM
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14. I support this group's continued existence. GOP bullshit doesn't always..
...come in a steady flow- especially the stuff that could/should be debunked. Thanks for calling this to our attention!

PB
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:21 PM
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15. I must admit - I had no idea the group existed ...
but now that I do, I think it should be given a reprieve because it could be very useful. I like the "one-stop shopping" potential - it would be nice to go to one group and immediately have access to info that destroys all the RW talking points. It would probably be more of a reference page then an actual group - maybe it could be restructured somehow or combined with the research forum. :-)
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:23 PM
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16. This looks like a valuable resource.
I didn't know it was here. I do some debunking ans wish I'd known. Please keep it.

--IMM
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:32 PM
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17. Skinner -- do we have enough posts to save the group? /nt
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:52 PM
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18. It may not be hopping now
but give Karl a month or two more and it could get busy.
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Wrinkle_In_Time Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 09:57 PM
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19. If the modmins moved all the propaganda e-mail posts from GD...
... to here, I think the traffic would increase. I really wish that all the "I just read an awful RW email", look what my RW sister-in-law just sent me" and "please help me debunk" posts from GD would be moved here by the modmins for quarantine and focused response. I think that having them in GD just gives them more exposure to the general DU populace than they deserve.

I didn't even know that we had this forum. Apparently, I'm not alone.
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 10:19 PM
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20. Please save the Propaganda Debunking Group.
One way to increase traffic to this group may be to cross post threads in GD with a link back to the group.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:32 PM
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21. I think it will be valuable for the midterm elections.
We all know that Rove will start spreading more and more lies-as-truth.
The group may be a little sluggish now, but around September, when the campaigning heats up, we may start depending on it for the "real truth" about some of the Radical Right Wing talking points.
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Timbuk3 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-24-06 11:55 PM
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22. Seems to be a group worth saving
Just let it sit, for now. It's getting close to the time we'll need it.
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 12:07 AM
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23. never knew of its existence.. great idea! keep it going!!! n/t
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 01:27 AM
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24. Here's another vote
to keep this forum alive. :)
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 02:25 AM
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25. I did not know it existed. Cool. Post to save!
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 02:42 AM
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26. now that i know this group exsists, i'd prefer it to stay
In all likelyhood i will start visiting this forum.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 03:05 AM
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28. Please, don't eliminate this group. I didn't even know about it.
I want to be a DU De-Bunker!!!! I'll even have time to be one since termination by a Republican employer is imminent. I'd be really GOOD at it, too, once I discover my fellow DU De-Bunkers and network with them.

Give this one more time. We could add so much to DU,...we just didn't know about it.
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 03:12 AM
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29. another vote to keep
from a another guy who'd never heard of it :)
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 04:51 AM
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30. Please keep this. nt
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 05:09 AM
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31. The group certainly has "historical" value and should be maintained
What I would suggest to any enthusiasts of the group is to populate it with copied posts from other threads, not just published material.

Asking other DUers to "donate" their post to the debunking "library" and thanking them (all publicly in the other threads) would build interest in this thread and generate more activity here.

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triplementor Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 06:05 AM
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32. Certainly we need to debunk propoganda!
So let's keep it! :think:
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 06:56 AM
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33. Perhaps if this could be linked in some way to "Resources" more DUers....
would see and participate in both finding stuff that needs debunking, actually debunking it and then getting the TRUTH out? :think: You know... fight lies with TRUTH... spin with FACTS. :evil:
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:05 AM
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34. I vote to retain! I'm another DUer didn't know it existed!!
:kick:
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:14 AM
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35. I vote not to delete
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:17 AM
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36. What a strange way to find out about this group.
I hope we can keep it.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:20 AM
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37. I think that this group will become even more important during the
elections. I would vote to keep it.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:24 AM
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38. I think that this is an important group. n/t
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 08:51 AM
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39. this shouldn't even be a consideration at DU! K&R n/t
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:09 AM
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40. It looks to me like this forum could be a useful site for information
storage. I think that it should be kept open.
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DarleenMB Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:37 AM
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42. Heck yeah, keep this open! N/T
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 10:00 AM
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43. Vote to keep n/t
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mirounga Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 10:33 AM
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44. Keep Going
I, too, never knew of this thread until now. Please, this group is important, especially now that so many lies are coming fast and loose. Link it to the first page. If it already was I missed it.

mirounga
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 10:37 AM
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45. This is the sort of group that doesn't post actively
but is needed when some kind of bullshit comes around, and then it can spring into action.

I vote to keep.
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Timbuk3 Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 10:53 AM
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46. I hope you'll leave it open
and re-evaluate it closer to the election.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 10:58 AM
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47. I had no idea of this group either....
It definately should remain.

Perhaps once a week or once a month, a topic from this group can be posted in GD with a link back here? Then many more people would utilize this resource.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 11:26 AM
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48. Please don't delete this group...
I just went there because of the post in GD. I didn't even know it existed.

I went through the thread about the 10 commandments etc., the one with the pictures of what's REALLY on the buildings in DC. Interesting and useful, IMO.

The word needs to get out that such a forum exists. Some of us have all we can do just to keep up with GD, GD/politics and LBN.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 12:11 PM
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49. I had no idea this group existed.
If I had known, it would have saved many hours goggling. I'll add it 2 my favorites and start contributing.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 12:28 PM
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50. I didn't even know this existed, but I recommend keeping it.
I happen to live in a red state, and you guys wouldn't believe the amount of propaganda email I receive weekly. (To make it worst a good amount of it is from so-called Democrats.) I've had about enough of co-workers sending me "truth" that is nothing short of wholesale lies -- kind of like the WMD claims. I also read some real zingers in the local right-wing Oklahoman rag. Most of the time I never reply to any of it because I don't know where to start, but I would love to be able to post some of the stuff and have DUers help me debunk the nonsense... So, in short, please keep this group around, Skinner!
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 02:00 PM
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52. I know how you feel
that's exactly why I started the group. My RW brother used to spend every waking moment sending me the most ridiculous e-mails. After I debunked ALL of them, he quit it (although he is still a RWer)
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 03:58 PM
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59. Too bad there is so much of it out there...
The annoying thing is that I get a fair amount of it from county party official. Really disgusting nonsense. I don't have the time necessary to debunk it all myself, but it would be nice if there was a DU group for such a chore. DUers are great at research -- that's yet another reason I love it here so much.
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pagandem4justice Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 12:53 PM
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51. Please keep...
I didn't even know about this group! Will add it to my favorites. This group will be very useful later this year as the election cycle amps up.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 02:17 PM
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53. Me neither....had no idea this
group was here. Why would you want to get rid of a group that fights propaganda?

Bad idea!

Save those that debunk RW lies!
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 05:55 PM
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54. Please leave this open.
Just because I don't post doesn't mean I'm not reading.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 06:19 PM
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55. Yes! I want this to stay
I just discovered it, fortunately in time.

They recycle their propaganda, so even old info is of use in this particular area. Please leave it!
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 06:26 PM
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56. Please keep this group!
I didn't know that it existed but plan on using it often. This is awesome - our very own snopes-type group!!

:thumbsup:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 06:31 PM
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57. For as long as there is bullshit, a group like this will be valuable.
And that will be forever.

Please keep it!
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 10:06 PM
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58. Voting to keep it.
I wasn't aware of it's existence until now.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:45 PM
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60. 58 responses
The group is staying. Thanks, everyone.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 02:32 PM
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61. Thank you Skinner!! Wonderful news. :-) Now if only...
this "group" were transformed and moved into either the Topic Forums or Big Forums area, I would think, after reading so many other "I didn't know this existed" type posts, that it would be a lot more visable and therefore much more useful and used if it were in either one of those areas. B-)
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 02:25 PM
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62. Please don't delete this group.
I just now discovered it. Not sure how much I'll be posting, but I'd like some more time to visit it.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:31 AM
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63. Keep it!!!!
I found this forum today --- please don't get rid of it!
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AbbyR Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:07 PM
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65. Didn't know it was here until today,
and I joined immediately. We will need this group more than ever as the elections draw closer.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 07:35 PM
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66. please please keep it!
I use this for arguments with freepers almost daily!!!!! :whimper:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 04:19 AM
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67. six months later i wander in here--glad you kept it open & running. n/t
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 10:27 AM
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68. This is a valuable forum I never knew about.
People should be made more aware of it. Now that I know it is here, I will visit and post.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 08:51 PM
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69. I just found it!
I'll plan on adding it to my forums.
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NancyG Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 10:57 AM
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70. What a great forum
Wish I knew about it before.
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gilpo Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 02:49 PM
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71. Just found this forum.... I'm adding it to my favorites!
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 05:04 PM
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72. Another "me too" post :)
I just found out about this forum, and am adding it to my forum list. It's a great idea.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 11:03 AM
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73. I never knew it was here, but now that I do I will be using it regularly..
...you know, to 'debunk' stuff... ;-)
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 07:02 PM
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74. I just found this group a week or so ago

Don't take it away now!
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-03-07 03:47 AM
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75. If you must delete the group, at least move it to the research forum
There might be some useful scoop here.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 06:12 AM
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76. Wow, this is really amazing
This really should be a little more of a traveled forum by any form of the imagination. Mostly the whole world is filled with propaganda in one form or shape or other.

This looks to be a good place for somebody to jump start :-)
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 07:02 PM
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77. I have likewise been absolutely astonished
that there aren't more posts here.

I'm one who almost never starts a thread, but I cheerfully jump in whenever.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 10:42 AM
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78. I didn't even know about this group until it somehow showed up
with other groups on the discussion page. I can see where this could be put to good use, considering some of the propaganda that's being foisted upon us by the teabaggers and other RW nutjobs.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-11 12:55 AM
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79. I just stumbled on this group a few minutes ago. Hope it stays and I will use it and add to it.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 03:42 PM
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81. Oh, dear. Here we go again.
I am not one who starts very many threads, although I certainly participate in many. I really am surprised that more people don't post here.
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