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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-18-06 01:32 PM
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A dumb question about Ferdinand of Castile
I'm reading The Dogs of God about Ferdinand and Isabelle or more properly Isabelle and Ferdinand of Spain. It says that Ferdinand considered himself to be "the Bat", A figure who would fight the anti-Christ, drive the Moors from Spain and Jerusalem and prepare the way for the return of the Messiah. My question is, is "the Bat" a direct translation, i.e. that this character really was referred to as a bat as in a small flying mammal, and if so, where did that come from?
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 09:47 AM
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1. never heard of that before...
both he and Isabella felt they were doing God's work and also helping themselves out to Spain and the spoils of the Moors...
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othermeans Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-20-06 10:46 PM
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2. I think this might be the answer you might be looking for
bat kol of the Talmud, which, was a veritable voice made audible by God a miracle, in fact (commentary on Gen. xvi.).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Abrabanel
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-17-06 09:41 PM
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3. Interesting idea -
I had heard this about Ferdinand, but did not know about the bat kol. If you think about John the Baptist being a "voice crying in the wilderness" and a precursor of Jesus the Messiah, if Ferdinand considered himself someone who would fight the anti-Christ, he too would have been like a voice crying in the wilderness. How very neat.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:31 PM
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4. Somehow, nobody googled it.
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