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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:17 AM
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A principled stance
It's time to smack down those disingenous types that try to portray Kerry as a poll watcher. They forget that Americans, while the polls show disapproval with Bush's handling of the war and believe Iraq is in a civil war, they still need to be convinced that immediate withdrawal is the right thing to do, that Americans should not be in Iraq contributing to the death of innocent Iraqis.

CBS News Poll. June 10-11, 2006. N=659 adults nationwide. MoE ± 4 (for all adults). RV = registered voters
"Should the United States troops stay in Iraq as long as it takes to make sure Iraq is a stable democracy, even if it takes a long time, or should U.S. troops leave Iraq as soon as possible, even if Iraq is not completely stable?"


6/10-11/06
Stay as Long As it Takes 48%
Leave ASAP 46%
Unsure 6%

4/6-9/06
Stay as Long As it Takes 47%
Leave ASAP 47%
Unsure 6%

1/20-25/06
Stay as Long As it Takes 50%
Leave ASAP 45%
Unsure 5%

USA Today/Gallup Poll. June 9-11, 2006. N=1,002 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.
"Here are four different plans the U.S. could follow in dealing with the war in Iraq. Which ONE do you prefer? Withdraw all troops from Iraq immediately. Withdraw all troops by June 2007, that is, in 12 months' time. Withdraw troops, but take as many years to do this as are needed to turn control over to the Iraqis. OR, Send more troops to Iraq."


6/9-11/06
Withdraw Immediately 17%
Withdraw by June 2007 32%
Take as Long As Needed 42%
Send More Troops 6%
Unsure 3%


CNN Poll conducted by Opinion Research Corporation. June 8-11, 2006. N=1,031 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.
"Here are four different plans the U.S. could follow in dealing with the war in Iraq. Which one do you prefer? Withdraw all troops from Iraq immediately. Withdraw all troops by June 2007, that is, in 12 months time. Withdraw troops, but take as many years to do this as are needed to turn control over to the Iraqis. OR, Send more troops to Iraq."


6/8-11/06
Withdraw Immediately 18%
Withdraw by June 2007 29%
Take as Long As Needed 42%
Send More Troops 6%
Unsure 5%


http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm


Seems if Kerry was following these polls, he'd be giving the same wait-and-see excuses as some Democrats!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:38 AM
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1. Agree, we need to be answering the administration back when
they claim leaving will create a more dangerous world and we have to stay until we have a victory.we need to have an answer when the administration claims the insurgency is just waiting for us to leave, so they can terrorize and take over.It can't be stressed enough that most of the fighting at this point is sectarian in nature. And, we need to explain why staying could be more dangerous and bloody for US troops and Iraqi 's. We need to point out that a Democrat plan would not leave the Iraq's high and dry, but would lend support only when it was needed and not do the battling for them. Allowing them their baby steps towards democracy. We need to be putting the Republicans on the defensive and demanding that they explain themselves fully- not just get away with the bullsh*t "cut and run" Rove comments directed at Democrats that dare to suggest a different course than that of the White House.
The public seems to be on the brink of leaning towards getting out. We have to reassure them that we have the right plan and the right course to take. The Bush administration has not gotten it right yet, why should we believe they will get it right this time?
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