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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 09:21 AM
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George Allen: Not ready for prime time
Dumb doesn't even begin to explain this one.

Liberal Oasis: http://www.liberaloasis.com/archives/031206.htm#031306

Allen’s lameness yesterday might actually get him in trouble with GOP primary voters.

Stumbling with the S. Dakota abortion ban question, he offered that even if not having exceptions for rape and incest wasn’t his anti-abortion position, he thinks the whole issue is a state matter, not a federal one.

So Tim Russert asked the easy follow-up: “if a state said unlimited abortion on demand, you would abide by that?”

Allen clearly was not prepared, and not much for improvising. Because he blurted out:

    I can’t imagine too many states or any state having one that allows abortion for all nine months for any reason or no reason at all.

    But that would be the right of the people of the states.


So he managed to put himself on record that he’d allow a state to permit abortions at any point in a pregnancy, including after a fetus is viable outside the womb, for non-medical reasons – something that even Roe does not allow.

You can hear the “Does George Allen Respect Life?” ads already.


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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 09:34 AM
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1. I caught that too. He hasn't gotten the new Rpub strategy down yet.
So now,for the Republicans, who for so long have run on banning abortion, the new strategy is to say it is a states rights issue, that way they can blame the states and not have to be "too anti-abortion". Or too anti-woman. Well, I have news for them, this idea of state rights on a personal issue like abortion didn't work before and it won't work now. Woman either have this protection and privacy right under our Federal laws or we are out right being discriminated against. You know, our government tried this as a compromise to slavery and it didn't work either. You can not pick and choose where it is right and where it is wrong on personal rights and privacy issues.
Gosh, one step up, two steps back!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 09:37 AM
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2. You're right.
Clueless doesn't even begin to describe Allen.

Imagine him campaigning :yoiks:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 09:47 AM
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3. What a crazy answer
I guess he's just really big on state rights.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 09:56 AM
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4. They are just now catching on to the infinite stupidity that is Allen?
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 09:56 AM by TayTay
Doesn't anyone watch Committee hearings anymore? (I can't be the only wonk in existence who watches committee hearings? I just can't be.) Now I agree that Icky Ricky in PA is an awful Senator and a really weird guy. But I am willing to bet that his IQ exceeds his age. (Not by much perhaps, but I bet it does.) I cannot say that about Allen. (He is what 52?) I have looked in Allen's eyes in Committee hearings and there is nobody home. (Hell, the lights aren't even on. That is one abandoned building there people, the only thing in it is one old, squashed football.)

This man is a disgrace. Personally, if I ever taught Sunday school I would use Allen as an abject lesson of what could happen to you if you piss God off and don't do what you are supposed to, like see to the needs of the poor and disadvantaged and walking humbly through life. There is a special room in hell set up with dozens and dozens of monitors. The most evil of people are placed there and forced to endure the 'Wit and Witticisms' of George Allen, in HDTV, through all eternity. Nooooooooo!

Sigh! What in hell goes on in Virginia? Don't they have debates? How did this moronic idiot become a Senator in the first place? (Okay, rant over. Remember Tay, walk humbly before God. We have frickin idiots in Mass too. But, for goodness sakes, we don't elect them to speak for us in the US Senate.) Ahm, was George Allen an example of Special Education just going too far or what?

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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:11 AM
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5. Umm....
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 10:14 AM by whometense
not to besmirch the good name of the people of Virginia, but didn't it have something to do with his daddy being a big time football coach? He and Shrubya have more in common than either one would probably like to acknowledge.

By the way (on edit), I loved that "not much for improvising" line. Try, "not much for thinking".

:rofl:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:24 AM
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6. I just can't believe people are only now commenting on
the lack of brain power from the Jr. Senator from Virginia. (Honestly, look at that man's eyes. They are like a doll's eyes, completely blank. There is no one home there.)

He will be bloviating and trying to dig up something to say from deep within the vestiges of his brain stem on Tuesday and Wed in SFRC. I am sure the world is breathlessly waiting to hear how the election of Hamas is like a Quarterback throwing a to a receiver who caught the ball and then stepped out of bounds and they had to call in the instant replay to see if it was a legal catch. (Honestly, I am just waiting for this one. "Hamas, you see, is like Notre Dame, only they are Muslim and their cheerleaders don't wear skimpy outfits and they are like, not in Indiana. But other than that Hamas is like Notre Dame. Sort of. Then again, not really. Maybe they are not a big Ten school, more like AAA school without a real varsity team. Then they don't really need cheerleaders, though, I personally enjoy the cheerleaders, cuz our President was one once and that's okay.")

George Allen is the walking root canal of the Senate. (He is a huge hole in the body politic that points to underlying rot and dead tissue. I also need to be anesthetized before I can watch him.) Honestly, deep, deep pain-killers before that hearing on the UN as well. (Somebody is going to have to get the hose and aim it at Coleman. He is likely to start humping Bolton's leg as soon as the man utters the phrase, 'UN Reform.' Get the hose, separate those two. Sigh!)
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 10:49 AM
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7. Well, I hope JK eats his wheaties before
the UN hearing. I want to see him out for blood. In his own gentlemanly way, of course... :-)
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:14 AM
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8. I bet that is a glass half full type thing for him.
Edited on Mon Mar-13-06 11:17 AM by TayTay
On the one hand, you get to fricasse the bastard for all the idiotic stuff he has done and all the people he has pissed off. (BTW, did you see that Cindy Sheehan tried to get a petition to Bolton the Bastard last week. Sen. Kerry's sister, PEggy, had set up an appointment for Ms. Sheehan with the US delegation and everyone thought there would be no problem dropping the thing off. Big Problem. The police were called in, they roughed up several of the peace demonstrators and such. Sigh! Thanks to Peggy Kerry for her help, sorry it didn't work out.)

On the other hand, you have to actually sit and listen while Sens. Allen and Coleman talk about everything Bolton has done right. Yikes! My poor taller Senator.

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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-13-06 11:50 AM
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9. I missed that story.
I admit to having been a bad citizen the past few weeks. Sometimes the enormity of how bad things are just sweeps me under and I need to check out for a while.

Steve Clemons was supposed to have been setting up a BoltonWatch website, but I haven't heard anything about it recently.

Just went looking: http://boltonwatch.tpmcafe.com/

I didn't realize it was going to be at TPM Cafe. Lot of stuff over there.

Anyway, yeah. Those hearings are no picnic. At least he has Barbara Boxer there to metaphorically roll his eyes at.
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