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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:23 PM
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Kerry interview on NPR, WONDERFUL!
I hope this hasn't been posted already, but here is a link to a NPR interview w/ Kerry. It's wonderful, check it out. Kerry's running in 08 and he's well prepared.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=50...
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:25 PM
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1. Thanks! I was so wrapped up by the debate in the House
that I missed that.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:36 PM
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2. This is absolutely excellent
The part about Murtha is the best he has given until now. He is clearly improving the message here. If you know what Murtha actually proposed, you can see easily the huge agreement points and the few disagreements.

The rest of the interview is simply outstanding.
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jenndar Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:45 PM
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3. AWESOME
He did a great job. I could listen to him talk forever.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:57 PM
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4. Another terrific interview.
He sounded so relaxed. He's getting treated with a lot of respect. Where was the respect last year? He was treated like the butt of a joke by the media last year.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:59 PM
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5. I notice the same thing.
It's like the scales have fallen from the media's eyes. One year too late.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:02 PM
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6. That is so damn sad.
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 07:03 PM by _dynamicdems
Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy he's getting respect. Still, what we could have had....
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:15 PM
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7. No...it's not the scales that have fallen
It's Bush's poll numbers so the media is trying to woooo the 73% back.

Last year they intentionally smeared him so he wouldn't win.

Last year was no accident and not just accidentally blind. They intended for Kerry to lose and so they worked to make it happen.
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Noisy Democrat Donating Member (799 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 12:48 AM
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20. That's an awesome quote from JK in your sig
Do you recall where it came from?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 07:53 AM
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21. That sig came from the 1996 debates
Edited on Mon Nov-21-05 07:55 AM by TayTay
in Massachusetts between John Kerry and William Weld. They had 8 debates beginning in April, I think, to settle the winner-take-all championship of Massachusetts politics. (For people not named Kennedy.)

Whome's quote comes from the Aug debate as mentioned in this PBS story:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/september96/ker...

That was a great moment. Mr. Kerry is a serious man. But he also has this extraordinary capacity to pull these deep expressions out at times. I have seen him do this in Mass and others finally, through an unfiltered media, saw him do this at the concession speech last year. It is deeply memorable because you realize this complex man doesn't share all his inner thoughts on a whim and at the request of just anyone in the media. (He is, in many ways, a deeply private person who doesn't play that media game of laying your soul and psyche on the line for analysis. He keeps certain things for himself.) Yet, there are times when these amazing personal statements come out that seem to have been pulled from somewhere deep inside and they seem almost painfully personal. It's a fascinating thing to watch and yet, at the same time, you wonder what the cost of this stuff is to this smart, dignified man. This is one of the things I have always found absolutely fascinating about Mr. Kerry, that sense of when to breach the personal and share the inner person with the electorate, because that inner person is so complex. In this day of 8 second sound bites, that is indeed a risk.

There was an earlier story that also mentioned that Senate contest and had some good quotes about themes that have come up since:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/election/june96/massachu...

And my poem that I liked: The background to this is that the White House through Al Gore, said Kerry was dull,

SEN. KERRY: I heard someone in the White House called me a snore,
and it turned out to be none other than the veep, Al Gore.
Al, what do you do when you're called so unmerry?
I say, things could be worse. I could be John Kerry. (laughter)

I just liked that. I like the poems as well as the serious stuff.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 08:32 AM
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22. Thanks for that answer,
and for your description of Kerry, which made me feel all warm inside. :blush: I guess this puts me (and probably everyone in this forum) on a different page from most of the country's voters, but I find his reserve deeply attractive. Maybe because it's challenging. Or maybe because it demonstrates that there is more there to discover. Kerry, even after following him for all these years, is always something of a mystery. For me, a plus. Unlike *, who only has stuff to hide, and about whom the only mystery is how the hell he managed to get where he is. Not really - I'm being snarky. There's no mystery about that whatsoever.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 09:23 AM
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23. I would agree.
Edited on Mon Nov-21-05 09:29 AM by TayTay
That is the classic observation about Kerry, "He's reserved." That's an incomplete statement and meaningless all by itself. The 'reserve' is also where the smahts come from and where the ethics and sense of moral outrage come from. You can almost see Kerry visiting that far distant shore within and coming back with these truly memorable and personal observations that mean more because they are infrequent but so obviously heart-felt. They seem to come with a cost. That means something, it's not just another day at the office.

Another gem about those infrequent revelations from within: (Again, observations on one of those '96 debates.)

If there was a standout moment, it came in the first debate when the governor challenged Kerry, a death penalty opponent, to tell the mother of a slain police officer why her son's killer should not be executed. (Kerry has since modified his position on capital punishment, saying he supports the death penalty in cases of terrorism.)

Glaring across the stage, Kerry responded, "I know something about killing I don't like killing." As a hush fell over historic Faneuil Hall, the decorated Vietnam veteran said the "scum" who kill police officers should spend the rest of their lives in prison. But, Kerry went on, "I don't think a state honors life by turning around and sanctioning killing."

The moment's unscripted drama revealed a passionate side of Kerry that belied his icy image. On another occasion, the candidates were asked to discuss the most wrenching personal decision they faced. Kerry spoke not of Vietnam, as many expected, but divorcing his first wife and the concern he had for their daughters' well-being. It was another surprising, heartfelt glimpse into the senator's closely guarded interior.

http://news.neilrogers.com/news/articles/2004090711.htm...

I remember that debate with the death penalty reference very, very well. That was a moment. Mr. Kerry didn't just launch into a screed against the death penalty from a legalistic viewpoint. He did that pause, then had those eyes that went so far inward that you wondered if he was going to get lost for a second. Then he came back with that reference to "I know something about killing." That's why the Hall fell silent. He had brought back something worthy of mentioning and reminding people of. It was an amazing personal revelation that the text alone doesn't give justice to.

Lest this get too deep and serious, there was also that wonderful in-your-face moment at the 2003 St. Pat;s breakfast. When he showed up and took all the smarky critics on with his "Who said I didn't have the Matzo Balls to be here?" line, that was also a personal statement. It was funny, it was courageous and it was completely unexpected. He stole the show.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-21-05 10:18 AM
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24. If you followed TayTay's link,
you know that I had to edit the quote to get it to fit in my tagline. I hated leaving any of it out. Here's the entire quote:

    SEN. KERRY: (August 19) I'm very well aware that when God made me one of the debits he gave me was sort of an over level of intensity, maybe an over level of earnestness, or whatever you want to call it. On the other hand, what I do know about myself is that when you have a fight, I'm a good person to be in the foxhole with, and I know that we're in a fight right now.


It killed me to leave out that part about his earnestness, because I think it's one of the real keys to understanding him. People in the media and over in GD and on Kos who are always mocking Kerry's "pandering" and "political positioning" are fundamentally misunderstanding where he is coming from. The level of cynicism in all those aforementioned places runs very deep, and renders those people incapable of hearing what Kerry is saying because he comes from a place that is the opposite of cynical.

If they thought the positive tone of the convention was a ploy, they don't get Kerry at all. That really is who he is - a serious, intense, forward thinking and optimistic person. His earnestness underlies everything he does. It's been a source of eternal frustration to me over the past few years trying to get people to see him that way. I think there are other people out there who are as deeply uncynical as Kerry, but they are not many. Durbin, for example, though I don't know him as well, strikes me that way. Maybe Obama, though it's too early for me to tell.

With Kerry, though, you get this sort of dorky, earnest, serious side, and you get the macho Navy side, and there's the patrician side, and the paternal side, and the intellectual - and more - no doubt, a very very complex man.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:26 PM
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8. OMG, that VOICE.
OK, there were words. I will have to listen again.
Sorry.
:blush:
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:04 PM
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12. You are so right...that is a voice!
I'm listening again right now.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:26 PM
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9. That was fantastic!
What Kerry has been saying about Congress not receiving the same intelligence on Iraq was echoed by Richard Clark last night on The Daily Show. Did anyone else see that? Clark explained it all in very simple terms and said there was no way the Congress saw what the White House did.

Back to the NPR interview, that was awesome! I loved it when he nailed the * Misadministration for their "family values". I get more and more pissed off at the people who voted for * every time I hear Senator Kerry speak. Damn people.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:51 PM
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10. Thanks for the link, this is a great interview
I quess once he got the Iraq plan and the Pre-Iraq intelligence speechs done in a controlled format, he feels a lot freer to go on these shows.

It's like an embarrasment of riches - in the last week we had 2 great Senate speeches and great interviews on NPR, Wolfe, Tweety (who if he's nice for a few more days might become Matthews) and Travis.

This is almost more time than they gave him a year ago last Oct.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:03 PM
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11. Me thinks Mr. Kerry is well and truly pissed off.
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 11:09 PM by TayTay
He ust sounds wonderful this week. Go get 'em Sir!

Wow! He really is pissed off. Geez, it's a good time to take a break. The Rethugs are giving everyone heartburn.

Whoa! This is as angry as I have ever heard the Senator. Geez. I would get out of the way, if I was the one pissing him off.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 02:14 PM
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13. he sounds a lot more focused
and has real power behind his words. That is why I think he is going to run again. he really wants to make America better.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 04:55 PM
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14. I tell you, the man has a way with words.
Edited on Sat Nov-19-05 04:55 PM by ProSense
If people and the media picked apart other elected officials' speeches as much as they did Kerry's, they'd be hard pressed to find such clear and focused thinking.

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 07:01 PM
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15. I was able to make this NPR interview work on my computer!!
But there's something wrong with the audio on my computer so it was super soft. So, I literally had to put my ear against the speaker on the computer to hear it. I have to say, it was like JK was whispering in my ear . . . LOL

Anyway, I don't know what it is, but he is at his best (voice wise) on the radio from the phone. He talks in the phone more conversationally, and it's like he's sitting in your living room, laying out all of the problems and solutions to them. It's that VOICE! It's the voice Karynnj talked about when she heard him speaking after his speech in NJ -- a gentler, softer voice. As I said before, the booming, speech making voice has its place, but nothing beats this radio, conversational voice. It's the way he talked in that "Inside the Bubble" movie when he was waiting for an interview. That's a voice I could DEFINITELY listen to coming out of the oval office for 4 years. There was no senatese disease in that voice. Keep up the good work, Senator. I hope that he uses that voice more and more, not just at home or talking with folks, but in the media, too. It lessens the distance between him and the audience.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:11 PM
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16. I enjoyed reading your post. I love Kerry's voice. Thanks! n/t
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:28 PM
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17. Hi ProSense! I haven't properly given you a "Welcome to the JK Forum"
I liked what you said in another post about wanting to read every word Kerry has said or written. As much as I love hearing and seeing the Senator, it is his words in print that are what have sucked me in, too. Particularly his letters home from Vietnam as well as his War Notes (from Tour of Duty) and his e-mails now (especially his policy speeches he asks us to read). If it were 1890 or something he would already be our president because all that sound byte stuff wouldn't have happened. I have to say I love the written word. And nobody does it better in the political world in 2005 than JK! Welcome again, and I look forward to reading lots more of your posts (I don't venture out in GD that often, but mostly read here).
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:56 PM
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18. Thank you!
This is an excellent group. I know I'll learn a lot from you all.


:hi:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 10:02 PM
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19. True that!
There was an article in the Globe today that was analyzing the amount of time given to Presidential candidates on TV. The average 'sound bites' alowed candidates is now down to 8 seconds.

8 seconds to decide the future of the nation. How utterly sad.
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