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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:04 PM
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List Kerry's Accomplishments despite adversities in the campaign HERE!
I try to get the naysayers and the Kerry bashers and the negative dems to appreciate what Kerry was able to accomplish despite the fraud and theft. Kerry and the DNC have nothing to apologize for. We may want to refine our messages, but we do not need to change our platforms, move right or ignore what we did. In order to address your weaknesses, you have to recognize your strengths first.

Kerry got more votes than anyone before him and

(1) the weed was campaigning since the 1st day he stepped into the WH;
(2) the media was ignoring Kerry/Edwards, so much so that even posters on this board would ask "where's Edwards" during the campaign;
(3) the media did not investigate any of the allegations made against the weed and his admin, including, but not limited to, lies about why the war in Iraq, Halliburton, AWOL, 9/11 pet goat fear, etc.
(4) the weed blatantly violated federal law by campaigning on military bases (under the guise of pep rallies for the troops);
(5) the weed got free air time and media coverage;
(6) the media parroted the SBV lies against Kerry and never approached the story as the lies they were
(7) In 1 year, the K/E campaign raised almost as much money as the B/C campaign did in 4 years.

I could go on and on. Kerry did a tremendous job - he won and folks need to realize how well he did.

Please help me develope a comprehenisve list of the ACCOMPLISHMENTS despite the adversities.

I love John Kerry! :loveya:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:16 PM
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1. The vote count
Kerry did get the second biggest vote count in American History.

The 13 states that constituted the Old Confederacy supplied the weed with a 5 1/2 million vote margin. The other 37 states voted for Kerry by 2 1/2 million votes.

Kerry came within one state of taking down an incumbent President during war time after the worst attack on American soil ever. (Pearl Harbor was second in number of people who were wounded and who died.)

Kerry came within one state despite the conservative infrastructure that is in place to provide 24 hour a day bashing. The liberal infrastructure is a new work in progress that didn't (yet) approach the cons in size and influence.

Anybody else.....
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:48 PM
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4. I didn't realize the "old confederacy" stats. Thanks
We need to help folks recognize that we should be proud of the K/E campaign and our candidate!

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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:02 PM
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2. this is a good project
I'm copying it to Word and will work on it offline and post later.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:46 PM
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3. Thank's that will be great. We need to have a comprehensive
list of the postive aspects of the campaign. We need to be able to list the accomplishments and strengths. I am sick of the folks slamming Kerry and saying he was the worst candidate and his campaign sucked.

It makes me so damned :mad: Thanks for pitching in to help keep it organized. I hope others will come post their impressions and suggestions.

:hi:

:loveya: John F. Kerry :loveya:
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:16 AM
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5. Why we think the Kerry/Edwards campaign rocked!
Edited on Sun Jan-09-05 10:28 AM by ginnyinWI

Kerry did extraordinarily well during his campaign. Whether you believe that he actually lost or was robbed of his win because of fraud, consider this:

1. Kerry and Edwards were two Dems who stayed very positive during the primaries. They were right to do so, because the ones who started bashing each other (Gephardt and Dean) lost support because of it. The Democratic base wanted Bush out, not in-party fighting. So when he won the primary, he was able to gather and unify a solid base of Democrats of all types.
2. Kerry/Edwards were able to use the internet wisely to raise money, run ads, and run a comprehensive website that was a source of information on issues. It had a lively, heavily-used blog that inspired people to join in the campaign. In one year, the K/E campaign raised almost as much money as the B/C campaign did in four years.
3. Before the convention Kerry gave speech after speech outlining his policies and solutions to the war, terrorism, the economy and other domestic issues, although they received little coverage other than on Cspan. They used the media as much as they could.
4. The Democratic National Convention was very unified, and offered the country an alternative to the negativity, fearmongering Republican party. Kerry showed himself to be smart, strong and committed to making America better.
5. Kerry/Edwards team came out fighting hard during the last two months especially. Nobody can say they all didnt work as hard as they could, and were able to rally huge crowds wherever they went. This didnt get enough coverage on TV, however.

What they were up against:

Despite being a totally incompetent president, Bush had a huge infrastructure to back him up. They mobilized a huge propaganda machine to try to win another term. As we so often see, it isnt necessarily the one who is right who wins, but the one who is able to get a message out:

1. Rove had him campaigning since the 1st day he stepped into the WH.
2. The media was behind him and wanted him to stay in office.
a. they ignored Kerry/Edwards, so much so that even posters on this board would ask "where's Edwards" during the campaign.
b. they did not thoroughly discuss/refute allegations made against BushCo., including, but not limited to, lies about why the war in Iraq, Halliburton, AWOL, 9/11 pet goat fear, and especially the SwiftBoatVeterans for Truth smear.
c.BushCo. was able to use a lot of free air time and media coverage because he was president.
d.Three words: Conservative Talk Radio!
3. Dirty Tricks:
a.They blatantly violated federal law by campaigning on military bases (under the guise of pep rallies for the troops).
b.Willingness to lie continuously about how great Bush washow he was steady and strong, and how Kerry was the opposite. They focused on painting him as the opposite of what they were saying Bush was. Of course this was just a staw man which had nothing to do with who Kerry actually was.
c.They used fearfear of what Kerry would or wouldnt do as president. Fear of terrorists. Fear of change. Bush said the words September 11 every time he gave a speech, and repeated it over and over and over. We had anger on our sideanger at Bush and the state of our nation. But fear is a more powerful motivator than anger.
d.Religion: they co-opted Christianity as their own. And since people think in such black-and-white terms, that made Kerry the Un-Christian, despite him being a Roman Catholic! BushCo convinced everyone that the Left was going to ruin the country with liberal social standardsagain using fear: fear of gays, fear of the left banning the Bible, etc. It didnt matter that Kerry and Bush have the same policy toward gay marriageagain the black-and-white thinking. People think if Kerry is for something, then Bush is against it.

Even with all this against them, look how the election turned out:

1. Kerry got more votes than any Democrat before him and did get the second biggest vote count in American history.
2. The 13 states that constituted the Old Confederacy supplied Bush with a 5 1/2 million vote margin. The other 37 states voted for Kerry by 2 1/2 million votes.
3. Kerry came within one state of taking down an incumbent President during war time after the worst attack on American soil ever. (Pearl Harbor was second in number of people who were wounded and who died.)
4. Kerry came within one state despite the conservative infrastructure that is in place to provide 24 hour a day bashing. The liberal infrastructure is a new work in progress that didn't (yet) approach the cons in size and influence.
5. Even today he still has a huge base of loyal followers. Once people get John Kerry, they stick with him, because it isnt often you come across an honest politician who is also so intelligent, experienced, capable, and committed to America.

No campaign is perfectly run, and no candidates are perfect. But his loyal followers think they did very very well. The other side used the incumbency, the media, their organization, religion, and fear-mongering propaganda to their advantage. Even then, the race was very close. They also suppressed voters from voting and used biased state officials to swing votes their way. Many of us suspect that voting machines were hackedand if that is so, Kerry was the winner, even with all that was against him. So to attack and bash a winner makes no sense at all. Either they almost pulled off a win despite great odds, or they actually didand either way deserve a lot of credit. . Kerry did a tremendous job - he's a winner-- and folks need to realize how well he did.

Cheers! :toast:











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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:18 AM
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6. ok the above is a compilation of the first few posts---
I am commenting on a separate post in case anyone wants to link the above in another forum. It is still a work in progress, so if anyone wants to add to it, feel free. You'd have to cut and paste it into a new post, then add stuff.
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 07:11 PM
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10. VERY WELL SAID!
couldn't have said it better. Good work Ginny.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 03:34 PM
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7. hey mehr
what do you think?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:25 PM
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8. Looks great! Thanks you added so much that I had missed.
We need to keep working on this and link back to your post every time they slam Kerry. Copy and paste if necessary! Thanks - you are wonderful! :yourock:

I have bookmarked this thread for sure! :thumbsup:
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 06:56 PM
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9. you're welcome!
Anything for the Kerrycrat cause! :) I do have training in writing and editing, so it was a nice challenge. There are still some things I'd edit and correct, but then us English major types are never satisfied.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 01:13 AM
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11. merh and everyone:
I posted my post in a new thread for easier access. I also added a point 4 to the second section. After seeing the DNC candidates on Cspan today, I realize how much a weak and unorganized Democratic party hurt Kerry's chances. With a strong Democratic "brand" identity it is so much easier for people to "get" what a candidate stands for, and they are more protected from negative stereotypes from their opponents.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 10:38 AM
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12. What's the thread title?
I'll look for it. Thanks for all your work and I do agree about the weak party.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:15 PM
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13. here it is.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

By the way, sandnsea also posted it on "Light Up the Darkness" blog, with credit to you and TayTay, as well as to me. :) we're famous now!

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/?view=day&blogDa...
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 01:36 PM
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14. Wonderful job!
You are the best & we were "published" on another blog! How cool is that!

Thanks so much - you made the paper terrific. I am bookmarking this so that I can slam the naysayers with the collection every chance I get!

:toast:
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