Dean criticized from the left

[Dr Ron]

I have tried to minimize unfavorable comments about Dean on LUTD and the Unofficial Kerry Blog, both because, despite the bitter fight over the nomination, I do agree with him on a large number of issues and we are better off with Dean being successful in his current position.

However, after the way Dean falsely characterized Kerry as a pro-war candidate in the primary battle, I couldn't help entering a post on Dean being criticized from some leftists who appear to have just realized Dean is not one of them. The post at LUTD is at:
http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/?view=plink&id=773

[WildEyedLiberal]

1. Hah

I got into a bit of a scuffle with some Deanaics here the other day when I tried to point this out to them. They, of course, denied that Dean had ever run as a liberal. Well, slap my ass and call me Sally! You mean those Naderites and pacifists and Greens were throwing their support behind a guy who ran as the centrist he was? :eyes: Yeah, I didn't think so.

[saracat]

3. Me too! And I just did it again. Sigh.

[JohnKleeb]

2. I was actually told this would happen

Ive always when Ive criticized Dean gone at him from the left.

[sandnsea]

4. Hi you

How was your weekend?

[JohnKleeb]

5. Craaaaaaaaaaaazy

but seriously, this was brought to my attention that PDA would do this to Dean. I had a good weekend, I love Boston, its great.

[sandnsea]

6. And still

They got no plan to get out either. Immediate withdrawal? And what aid group will want to go into Iraq after that?

I think there's a way to change the debate on Iraq. And it is that we don't know how to prevent extremism. We can't even prevent it here and the abortion clinic bombings prove it. So how does having an election in Iraq prevent it there? :shrug:

At least if Democrats were talking about extremist terrorists, we might be moving in the right direction. Nobody seems to want to talk about that anymore.

[JohnKleeb]

7. I dont know

I really dont. Sorrrrrry just tired.

[sandnsea]

8. No problem

I don't either. I'm tired of the dying too.

Go to sleep. You've got school tomorrow!!

[JohnKleeb]

9. I slept from 11:10-6:00,

:) thanks though, I'll be off to sleep in a bit.

[Pirate Smile]

15. Some inside info from Will Pitt, ehh?

[JohnKleeb]

16. Actually it didnt come directly from Pitt

but basically yes I was informed that PDA was gonna go out on Dean from the left on friday or saturday.

[Pirate Smile]

18. So what is PDA going to do in going after Dean?

Frankly, I think we should focus on the Republicans.

[JohnKleeb]

19. No idea

I dont think it will be like the Hoyer thing though, I did discuss the Hoyer thing though and quite a few agreed with me.

[XanaDUer]

10. Yes, and remember us telling you this, as well?

:hi:

No shock to me that Dean is not an anti-war candidate, although I do remember being told he was.

[JohnKleeb]

12. Yeah I heard about it while I was up in Boston

Its not a shock to me either.

[XanaDUer]

13. I am frankly amazed it took him this long

I also remember having my ass kicked when I dared suggest that he was not anti-war, nor very liberal.

[JohnKleeb]

14. I know

[Guaranteed]

22. Anti-WAR? No. Anti-IRAQ-war.

Anti-PRE-EMPTIVE-war.

He's not a pacifist.

[karynnj]

11. And today, It's Clark who has said we can't leave Iraq

so they're criticizing the accuracy of the UPI story or to a lesser degree Clark. Kerry's statements asking people not to count Iraq as a success yet and arguing that the diplomacy and the training are way too slow sound better as time goes by. I wonder if there's a point where he will argue we're doing more harm than good and will join Kennedy and Meehan in arguing to get out.

[Pirate Smile]

17. I remember Kerry's appearance on MTP the day of the Iraqi elections

when he didn't jump on the "Iraq is a Jeffersonian Democracy - the insurgency is Dead" bandwagon so he was a sore loser. Will he be proven right again, after the fact? Of course.

[TayTay]

20. I thought Kerry was very clear and consistent

He had the four things that have to be done before we can withdraw from Iraq. That never changed. I still thing his ideas are sound.

[Pirate Smile]

21. I agree. He had a long term view which the media doesn't seem to

be able to deal with since they have the attention span of a gnat.

[Moderator]

23. Locking....

This post/thread tends to carry on issues from primary battles.


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